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[Porthos]

38 minutes ago, MrPink said:

I can't say I understand why Cole never pitched in this game.

The whole "Clean inning" thing.  Hinch is gonna get criticized for his seventh inning decisions (which I don't think he should be), but he would have been roasted if he brought in Cole in that situation instead and Cole was the one to cough it up.

 

As you say, Greinke was dealing.  Then gopher ball and single walk.  He brought in someone who had been strong all year and he just didn't execute.

 

I suppose he could have brought in Cole in the eighth or ninth to keep it close, but then it's time to point the fingers at the offense for only scoring two runs.  Especially since Scherzer was pretty shaky (by Mad Max standards) all game long.

 

So I ain't putting this on Hinch.  Hell, I'm not even putting it on the offense.  Just think it wasn't meant to be, as I said.

Edited October 31, 2019 by Porthos

[MrPink]

Just now, Porthos said:

The whole "Clean inning" thing.  Hinch is gonna get criticized for his seventh inning decisions (which I don't think he should be), but he would have been roasted if he brought in Cole in that situation instead and Cole was the one to cough it up.

 

As you say, Greinke was dealing.  Then gopher ball and single.  He brought in someone who had been strong all year and he just didn't execute.

 

I suppose he could have brought in Cole in the eighth or ninth to keep it close, but then it's time to point the fingers at the offense for only scoring two runs.  Especially since Scherzer was pretty shaky (by Mad Max standards) all game long.

 

So I ain't putting this on Hinch.  Hell, I'm not even putting it on the offense.  Just think it wasn't meant to be, as I said.

 

I don't like bringing in Harris after the 2 run homer yesterday. But there's not a lot of people we could trust. Either let Greinke go or put in Harris. 

 

But still, I do think we should have put in Cole to keep it close. A 1-2 run deficit is a hell of a lot better than 4, which weights down on a player's mind.

[Porthos]

6 minutes ago, MrPink said:

But still, I do think we should have put in Cole to keep it close. A 1-2 run deficit is a hell of a lot better than 4, which weights down on a player's mind.

That's pretty fair.  Can't say I was pleased to see Osuna come in the game, for instance.  For more than one reason. 

Edited October 31, 2019 by Porthos

[Menor the Destroyer]

3 minutes ago, MrPink said:

 

I don't like bringing in Harris after the 2 run homer yesterday. But there's not a lot of people we could trust. Either let Greinke go or put in Harris. 

 

But still, I do think we should have put in Cole to keep it close. A 1-2 run deficit is a hell of a lot better than 4, which weights down on a player's mind.

We should've just let Greinke keep going. He was red-hot. But I'm not sure it would've mattered unless he went all 9.

[MrPink]

1 minute ago, Porthos said:

That's pretty fair.  Can't say I was pleased to see Osuna in the eighth, for instance.  For more than one reason. 

 

I would have rather he gave up the 2 run homer.

[TwoMisfits]

5 minutes ago, MrPink said:

 

I don't like bringing in Harris after the 2 run homer yesterday. But there's not a lot of people we could trust. Either let Greinke go or put in Harris. 

 

But still, I do think we should have put in Cole to keep it close. A 1-2 run deficit is a hell of a lot better than 4, which weights down on a player's mind.

Watching the game, I told my spouse that the minute the manager pulled Greinke when his pitch count was still under 80, they were gonna lose.  Didn't know it would be as rapid a loss as it was...but Nats never hit Greinke in game 3, and hadn't hit him in game 7...one home run and one walk is not the reason to pull the guy who has been so dominant all night.

 

The Nats always let Scherzer and Strasburg pitch out of their troubles...and they won.  You gotta let your stars be stars sometimes.  Astros guy just over-managed, and didn't let his best guys play.

[MrPink]

And the kick in the nuts was that tonight was the night my brother decided to watch Bohemian Rhapsody 

 

[MrPink]

Just now, TwoMisfits said:

Watching the game, I told my spouse that the minute the manager pulled Greinke when his pitch count was still under 80, they were gonna lose.  Didn't know it would be as rapid a loss as it was...but Nats never hit Greinke in game 3, and hadn't hit him in game 7...one home run and one walk is not the reason to pull the guy who has been so dominant all night.

 

The Nats always let Scherzer and Strasburg pitch out of their troubles...and they won.  You gotta let your stars be stars sometimes.  Astros guy just over-managed, and didn't let his best guys play.

 

To be fair, Greinke has had a ton of traffic all postseason. Like it always felt like he was on the precipice of breaking. Obviously not tonight, but he was fortunate to walk away in Game 3 without allowing more.

 

Still, Hinch had a lot of faith in his BP and probably too much. The problem is the Nats had too many looks at the vast majority of them.

[Porthos]

BTW, can we all just agree that the strike zone was a frigging joke (for both teams)?

 

Had to laugh when the announcers said he was picked because he had the most accurate zone in the league this year.  Or maybe it was "one of the most".  Regardless, it was just a terrible zone.  Especially since it seemed to wander a bit.

[Menor the Destroyer]

3 minutes ago, Porthos said:

BTW, can we all just agree that the strike zone was a frigging joke (for both teams)?

 

Had to laugh when the announcers said he was picked because he had the most accurate zone in the league this year.  Or maybe it was "one of the most".  Regardless, it was just a terrible zone.  Especially since it seemed to wander a bit.

All series the zone was just terrible and so many bad calls. We need robo umps ASAP.

[filmlover]

10 minutes ago, MrPink said:

And the kick in the nuts was that tonight was the night my brother decided to watch Bohemian Rhapsody 

 

[Porthos]

I see the collective Mega Geniuses of Twitter are out in force tonight. 👍

 

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Seriously, is it just me or are they getting more and more reactionary every passing year?  And I'm including the blue checkmarks here as well as the randos out there.

[Webslinger]

58 minutes ago, MrPink said:

Remember I LIVE in DC.

Oof. I was living in Rhode Island when the Patriots beat my Seahawks in the Super Bowl, so I feel your pain on this one.

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[Webslinger]

34 minutes ago, Porthos said:

BTW, can we all just agree that the strike zone was a frigging joke (for both teams)?

 

Had to laugh when the announcers said he was picked because he had the most accurate zone in the league this year.  Or maybe it was "one of the most".  Regardless, it was just a terrible zone.  Especially since it seemed to wander a bit.

The close-ups on Ryan Zimmerman’s face at two questionable strike calls in one of his at-bats was priceless.

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[Jayhawk the Hutt]

8 hours ago, MrPink said:

Congrats @Jayhawk

 

I'm glad that Greinke wasn't the one to lose it for us. That trade would have been slagged forever. But no, he threw a great game. The problem was, and had been for most of the season, RISP. I can't say I understand why Cole never pitched in this game.

 

But now I can throw away these dynasty hopes and never get my hopes up again as high as I did this year. With the front office and stuff, I'll never dedicate as much time to baseball as I did this season. 

 

And now to a night of fireworks that'll keep me from sleeping. Remember I LIVE in DC.

You have a great team and fought hard. I don't understand some of the managerial decisions. I know it's not gonna feel great being here while everyone is excited. I'm really sorry it ended this way for you and your team.

[DAR]

All I can think of is one misplayed ball in the Wild Card game brought the Nationals here.

[Jayhawk the Hutt]

39 minutes ago, DAR said:

All I can think of is one misplayed ball in the Wild Card game brought the Nationals here.

If only Yelich was healthy...

[MrPink]

1 hour ago, DAR said:

All I can think of is one misplayed ball in the Wild Card game brought the Nationals here.

 

Baby Shark brought us here. Signing Parra changed it all