MrGlass2 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I wonder how much MI:F (and other movies) "lost" this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, MrGlass2 said: I wonder how much MI:F (and other movies) "lost" this weekend. Ant Man sold over 600K tickets in its 1st week on Moviepass (see their "Top 12 movies" article from July 17) - you'd assume most were on the opening weekend at evening pricing...so if MIF was the same, it probably lost at least $7-9M (since Ant Man was right before surge pricing hit the majority)... In fact, Ant Man probably was the final nail in getting "blockbusters" eliminated, b/c that kinda turnout for a movie would be too much if you're cash strapped... EDIT: Here's the link...and you can see also why blockbusters are getting scrapped and the limit of 1x per movie went in effect - so many were turning out about 40% of the base to the theaters for the movies...you have a base that literally wanted blockbusters...can you imagine if they got to Black Panther these movies and see them unlimited times - that could have been enormous ticket sales and legs:) https://theplaylist.net/moviepass-top-12-films-20180717/ Edited July 31, 2018 by TwoMisfits 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said: Ant Man sold over 600K tickets in its 1st week on Moviepass (see their "Top 12 movies" article from July 17) - you'd assume most were on the opening weekend at evening pricing...so if MIF was the same, it probably lost at least $7-9M (since Ant Man was right before surge pricing hit the majority)... In fact, Ant Man probably was the final nail in getting "blockbusters" eliminated, b/c that kinda turnout for a movie would be too much if you're cash strapped... EDIT: Here's the link...and you can see also why blockbusters are getting scrapped and the limit of 1x per movie went in effect - so many were turning out about 40% of the base to the theaters for the movies...you have a base that literally wanted blockbusters...can you imagine if they got to Black Panther these movies and see them unlimited times - that could have been enormous ticket sales and legs:) https://theplaylist.net/moviepass-top-12-films-20180717/ All of the blockbusters would've likely opened to the same numbers regardless of MoviePass existing or not, especially as sequels with pre-determined audiences. When people want to see the movie, they'll actually go. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, filmlover said: All of the blockbusters would've likely opened to the same numbers regardless of MoviePass existing or not, especially as sequels with pre-determined audiences. When people want to see the movie, they'll actually go. Nah...you go b/c it's free and easy entertainment...sequels that cost $12-$14/ticket, you pass on unless they are must see. Not every sequel is must see or must not see...some fall into "like to see if I get a good enough deal"...heck, some premier movies are the same way... I can make a list of movies I'd have seen this summer if they were "free" (ie - already paid for)...I'm sure most folks without a pass could do the same...as can folks with a pass who saw things "just b/c they were free" that they are now gonna pass on - heck, look at this thread for that info... EDIT: Like for the next 12 months, I have 3 must see movies - Fantastic Beasts 2 (b/c my oldest is a nut), Avengers 4, and Spidey Tom Holland edition. Everything else, I'll take deals, funds, and possible subscription plans I get into the calculus...that means I might watch just 3 movies or I might watch 20...and it depends on quality and price, not just "sequels I like"... Last year, I got great deals and went to 14 movies...this year, I've gone to 3 (and 2 were b/c of outrageous deals)...money matters when you talk movie attendance... Edited July 31, 2018 by TwoMisfits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said: Nah...you go b/c it's free and easy entertainment...sequels that cost $12-$14/ticket, you pass on unless they are must see. Not every sequel is must see or must not see...some fall into "like to see if I get a good enough deal"...heck, some premier movies are the same way... I can make a list of movies I'd have seen this summer if they were "free" (ie - already paid for)...I'm sure most folks without a pass could do the same...as can folks with a pass who saw things "just b/c they were free" that they are now gonna pass on - heck, look at this thread for that info... EDIT: Like for the next 12 months, I have 3 must see movies - Fantastic Beasts 2 (b/c my oldest is a nut), Avengers 4, and Spidey Tom Holland edition. Everything else, I'll take deals, funds, and possible subscription plans I get into the calculus...that means I might watch just 3 movies or I might watch 20...and it depends on quality and price, not just "sequels I like"... Last year, I got great deals and went to 14 movies...this year, I've gone to 3 (and 2 were b/c of outrageous deals)...money matters when you talk movie attendance... I think you overestimate the effects of MoviePass. Most of the 50+ movies that I saw with it I would've payed out of pocket to see, I just had the convenience of saving a ton of money. It's possible for someone to have a MoviePass and pass on a film like, say, Skyscraper just because they're not interested in seeing it even for free. It's all hard to grasp though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpot Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 23 minutes ago, filmlover said: All of the blockbusters would've likely opened to the same numbers regardless of MoviePass existing or not, especially as sequels with pre-determined audiences. When people want to see the movie, they'll actually go. I agree with this. Moviepass effect on these movies is small. Maybe 25% (of moviepass users) or less than 1million people who saw these movies wouldn't otherwise have and of those probably a tiny fraction see it opening weekend due to limited seating availability for a bigger tentpoleas well as psychology (if you're on the fence about a movie you don't feel the need to rush to it, can wait for WOM and an ideal day). Moviepass mainly juiced the gross of movies like Greatest Showman, etc. Movies that may have otherwise become popular after leaving theaters now became popular while still out there. Anyway, I don't see any significant impact on the box office as a whole without moviepass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Anybody who actually wanted to see Mission: Impossible this past weekend didn't automatically say "MoviePass is down so I guess I'm not seeing it then." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shorts Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass2 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 9 hours ago, filmlover said: Anybody who actually wanted to see Mission: Impossible this past weekend didn't automatically say "MoviePass is down so I guess I'm not seeing it then." Not automatically, but some did. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpot Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 They just announced they will raise the price to $15/mo AND limit access to "Blockbuster" movies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rumpot said: They just announced they will raise the price to $15/mo AND limit access to "Blockbuster" movies lmao if they think $15 per month is enough to recoup losses 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpot Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 MoviePass has implemented several new cost-reduction and subscription revenue increase measures: Actions that have been implemented are currently cutting the monthly burn by 60%. A future increase of the standard pricing plan to $14.95 per month within the next 30 days. First Run Movies opening on 1,000+ Screens to be limited in their availability during the first two weeks, unless made available on a promotional basis, Implementation of additional tactics to prevent abuse of the MoviePass service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Rumpot said: MoviePass has implemented several new cost-reduction and subscription revenue increase measures: Actions that have been implemented are currently cutting the monthly burn by 60%. A future increase of the standard pricing plan to $14.95 per month within the next 30 days. First Run Movies opening on 1,000+ Screens to be limited in their availability during the first two weeks, unless made available on a promotional basis, Implementation of additional tactics to prevent abuse of the MoviePass service. Just shut it down already. I have no regrets about cancelling now. Edited July 31, 2018 by filmlover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 So the blockbuster restrictions are for basically everything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deja23 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, filmlover said: First Run Movies opening on 1,000+ Screens to be limited in their availability during the first two weeks, unless made available on a promotional basis, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass2 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, filmlover said: Implementation of additional tactics to prevent abuse of the MoviePass service. People were abusing the MoviePass by using it to watch movies. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 You really can't use MoviePass for anything now. Like what is even the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morieris Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 They're still peddling the magical MoviePass abuse line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horner Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Morieris said: They're still peddling the magical MoviePass abuse line? MoviePass: See a movie a day for only $9.95 per month /attend 2 movies in a month MoviePass: You're abusing the system !!! Edited July 31, 2018 by Horner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpot Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Haha. Atom offering entry into sweepstakes to win a year of free movies if you send a photo of your cut up moviepass https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/atom-tickets-moviepass-cancel-breakup-sweepstakes-1202890820/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
