THE LAST JEDI (and Ferdinand) WEEKEND THREAD | JEDI 220m, FERDINAND 13.3m, COCO 10m (official estimates) | ABSOLUTELY NO SPOILERS ALLOWED | SALE ON GOLD & PREMIUM ACCOUNTS IN FIRST POST

[AndyK]

1 minute ago, eXtacy said:

 

It applies to upvoters as well. Applies to all new accounts with not much votes.

So new voters are only allowed to give 5/10 votes?

 

[redfirebird2008]

1 minute ago, NCsoft said:

I'm pretty sure it will finish below 7.5 when all is said and done, the film's general reception is hard to measure, too many distracting factors. Though I think it's pretty safe to say that there's definitely a group of people who passionately hate this (and this goes far beyond just the alt-right trolls, they're not that powerful). This may or may not have any effect on repeat viewing, WOM and legs for general audiences, I guess we'll see.

 

It's not even just certain people outright hating it. I have seen a number of reviews from people who liked it overall but thought the stuff with Boyega was a pretty big drag on the rest of the movie. "Mixed bag" so to speak. But that's kind of what you get with every movie for the most part. 

[B D Joe]

5 minutes ago, tonytr87 said:

So it wipes away the nostalgia and moves the franchise forward in daring and exciting ways but...wait, no, it's the same old same old and every twist is very predictable. 

It does both those things.

[Dementeleus]

4 minutes ago, AndyK said:

So new voters are only allowed to give 5/10 votes?

 

 

They can vote however they want, their votes are just weighed lighter until they build up their reputation over time through other votes. 

[Porthos]

My 100m OD casino bet when Deadline's report went live late Friday night:

 

 

My 215m OW casino bets when Our God posted while I was sleeping:

 

 

Not certain yet, but I'm liking my chances.

Edited December 16, 2017 by Porthos

[a2k]

increases to 57%. people are mounting a counterattack. 

[Deep Wang]

39 minutes ago, a2knet said:

Yeah I have no idea how much of the 57m was due to the costly tickets. Just was guessing if that was a factor. The preview / true Fri breakdown was surprising to say the least.

 

If someone wanted to take a completely, absolutely made up, and totally wild guess, I'd say that non-traditional shows made up for about 70% of that 57m total. 

[Porthos]

What a fantastic number to wake up to, BTW.

 

It's this rollercoaster of expectations and WTHs and various reactions that make these blockbuster weekend threads so great.

 

To all here:

 

[aabattery]

To think I was worried it might slip under 100M OD last night. Incredible number.

 

Hahahaha @ Ferdinand. I'm gonna be petty because I've suffered through that god awful PSA so many times. That's what you GET. KARMA.

[Deep Wang]

And if someone wanted to take a totally random stab at the same percentage for TLJ, one could be pretty wild and say it was way less at somewhere like, ummmm maybe 55% non-traditional?

 

You might even wonder if there's a chance this sold more tickets than TFA Thursday shows 🤔🤔

[FlashMaster659]

TLJ is absolutely KILLING IT at the Irvine Spectrum. Lot of sold out shows including 3 of the 5 IMAX shows.

[AndyK]

21 minutes ago, Lor San Tele said:

 

They can vote however they want, their votes are just weighed lighter until they build up their reputation over time through other votes. 

Which is the same as only giving a 5/10 vote

[Lancelot Gold]

3 hours ago, grey ghost said:

Well dang, I admit it. I expected a 25% drop from TFA for TLJ OW and DOM.

 

That's the typical drop for a sequel to a megahit.

 

I'm going to say three factors probably gave TLJ a nice bump.

 

1) LucasFilm's confidence in the director. Announcing he'll do the next trilogy.

 

2) The controversy of the lopsided RT ratings and pissed off fanboys. This had to make people very curious.

 

3) Very positive WOM from casuals.

Forgot about Carrie Fisher's death. That always seems to boost a movie's gross. As good as The Dark Knight was, Ledger's death was a huge contributing factor in it's run. Same with Furious 7. I still think that this has a strong chance to have amazing legs and pass TFA because of that alone. It helps that TLJ is a better movie too. 

[Porthos]

Sacramento Century Arden XD ONLY SELLOUT REPORT:

 

(not including the screenings that already have been shown, obv)

 

11:45am 2D: SOLD OUT

12:15pm 3D: 14/233

12:50pm 2D: SOLD OUT

1:25pm 3D: 3/161

2:00pm 2D: 3/110

3:15pm 2D: SOLD OUT

3:35pm 2D: SOLD OUT

4:20pm 3D: 14/161

4:55pm 2D: 1/161

5:30pm 3D: 4/161

6:45pm 2D: 3/161

7:15pm 2D: 3/233

7:50pm 2D: 5/161

8:25pm 3D: 7/161

9:00pm 2D: 3/161

10:15pm 2D: 2/161

10:45pm 3D: 75/233

11:15pm 2D: 20/161

12:30am 2D: 27/110

 

Edited December 16, 2017 by Porthos

[redfirebird2008]

17 minutes ago, Darth Boh-ne'er said:

And if someone wanted to take a totally random stab at the same percentage for TLJ, one could be pretty wild and say it was way less at somewhere like, ummmm maybe 55% non-traditional?

 

You might even wonder if there's a chance this sold more tickets than TFA Thursday shows 🤔🤔

 

It had 2 years of ticket price inflation. I don't think the likes of IMAX or other PLF would add a $10m boost, especially not when you consider the inflation side of it for the new movie. 

[KeithF1138]

How much of an effect will Christmas date have on TLJ boxoffice. Students havent gotten out yet and just to give examples of my kids and friends. For TFA my oldest son was going to University of Wisconsin-Madision and opening night (Friday) was last day of exams. We drove from Chicago to Madison to see it after his last exam ended at 8PM. We went to 9PM show. All University of Wisconsin schools follow same final exam schedule. This year the schools final exams started yesterday and go through 21st. They even have exams today and tomorrow. My middle son goes to Michigan State and exams this year ended yesterday, luckily my son just had a paper to hand in yesterday. Last year and the year before they ended the Friday before Rogue One opened. My youngest son High School finals last year ended opening day of Rogue One and year before the opening day of TFA.  Close family friends, who we are seeing TLJ with tomorrow, son goes to University of Illinois and his last final is tomorrow.  Think this will cause better numbers going forward? 

Edited December 16, 2017 by KeithF1138

[Dementeleus]

3 minutes ago, Porthos said:

Sacramento Century Arden XD ONLY SELLOUT REPORT:

 

(not including the screenings that already have been shown, obv)

 

11:45am 2D: SOLD OUT

12:15pm 3D: 14/233

12:50pm 2D: SOLD OUT

1:25pm 3D: 3/160

2:00pm 2D: 3/110

3:15pm 2D: SOLD OUT

3:35pm 2D: SOLD OUT

4:20pm 3D: 14/160

4:55pm 2D: 1/160

5:30pm 3D: 4/160

6:45pm 2D: 3/160

7:15pm 2D: 3/233

7:50pm 2D: 5/160

8:25pm 3D: 7/160

9:00pm 2D: 3/160

10:15pm 2D: 2/160

10:45pm 3D: 75/233

11:15pm 2D: 20/160

12:30pm 2D: 27/110

 

 

4:55-9pm. FLOOOOOP

[Porthos]

4 minutes ago, Lor San Tele said:

 

4:55-9pm. FLOOOOOP

10:45pm-12:30am: NOT AN EVENT!

[KeithF1138]

Think Moviepass will have any measurable effect? Our whole family got them in November. Two of used last night to go see TLJ a second time. May very well see it again tonight with Moviepass. Winter is dreary in Chicago. My sons and I intend to use Moviepass a many times to see TLJ.

[Barnack]

4 minutes ago, lancelot123 said:

Forgot about Carrie Fisher's death. That always seems to boost a movie's gross.

That track record is not that obvious really.

James Gandolfini

Date	Title (click to view)	Studio	Lifetime Gross / Theaters		Opening / Theaters		Rank
9/12/14	The Drop	FoxS	$10,724,389	1,192	$4,104,552	809	15
9/18/13	Enough Said	FoxS	$17,550,872	835	$232,800	4	11

 

Robin Williams

Date	Title (click to view)	Studio	Lifetime Gross / Theaters		Opening / Theaters		Rank
7/10/15	Boulevard	SM	$126,150	11	$7,000	1	48
12/19/14	Night at the Museum: Secret of the Tomb	Fox	$113,746,621	3,914	$17,100,520	3,785	13

 

Philip Seymour Hoffman

Date	Title (click to view)	Studio	Lifetime Gross / Theaters		Opening / Theaters		Rank
11/20/15	The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 2	LGF	$281,723,902	4,175	$102,665,981	4,175	3
11/21/14	The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1	LGF	$337,135,885	4,151	$121,897,634	4,151	2
7/25/14	A Most Wanted Man	RAtt.	$17,237,855	801	$2,687,227	361	24
5/9/14	God's Pocket	IFC	$169,976	80	$21,482	3	40

 

Heath Ledger

Date	Title (click to view)	Studio	Lifetime Gross / Theaters		Opening / Theaters		Rank
12/25/09	The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus	SPC	$7,689,607	607	$415,233	48	11
7/18/08	The Dark Knight	WB	$534,858,444	4,366	$158,411,483	4,366	1

 

 

There is a lot of post-mortem release of loved actor that did nothing, many strait to videos, we remember the big success, we do not remember the smaller movies by definition, a way to look at it would be did the movie perform specially well in market were the actors was a big deal and not particularly well were he was not (like the new market or non domestic market in general), most of the time the actor death is brought as a reason for a movie giant success, the movie was big just everywhere, even in place that it barely made the news that a foreign actor die.

 

Even in the franchise, replaying the same role context, it is hard to see any boost of Robin Williams last big roles in a big movie and he was a specially loved figure:

 

Rank	Title (click to view)	Studio	Adjusted Gross	Unadjusted Gross	Release
1	Night at the Museum	Fox	$330,781,500	$250,863,268	12/22/06
2	Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian	Fox	$212,165,200	$177,243,721	5/22/09
3	Night at the Museum: Secret of the Tomb	Fox	$124,227,800	$113,746,621	12/19/14