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22 minutes ago, Barnack said:

That track record is not that obvious really.

James Gandolfini

Date Title (click to view) Studio Lifetime Gross / Theaters Opening / Theaters Rank
9/12/14 The Drop FoxS $10,724,389 1,192 $4,104,552 809 15
9/18/13 Enough Said FoxS $17,550,872 835 $232,800 4 11

 

Robin Williams

Date Title (click to view) Studio Lifetime Gross / Theaters Opening / Theaters Rank
7/10/15 Boulevard SM $126,150 11 $7,000 1 48
12/19/14 Night at the Museum: Secret of the Tomb Fox $113,746,621 3,914 $17,100,520 3,785 13

 

Philip Seymour Hoffman
Date Title (click to view) Studio Lifetime Gross / Theaters Opening / Theaters Rank
11/20/15 The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 2 LGF $281,723,902 4,175 $102,665,981 4,175 3
11/21/14 The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1 LGF $337,135,885 4,151 $121,897,634 4,151 2
7/25/14 A Most Wanted Man RAtt. $17,237,855 801 $2,687,227 361 24
5/9/14 God's Pocket IFC $169,976 80 $21,482 3 40

 

Heath Ledger

Date Title (click to view) Studio Lifetime Gross / Theaters Opening / Theaters Rank
12/25/09 The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus SPC $7,689,607 607 $415,233 48 11
7/18/08 The Dark Knight WB $534,858,444 4,366 $158,411,483 4,366 1

 

 

There is a lot of post-mortem release of loved actor that did nothing, many strait to videos, we remember the big success, we do not remember the smaller movies by definition, a way to look at it would be did the movie perform specially well in market were the actors was a big deal and not particularly well were he was not (like the new market or non domestic market in general), most of the time the actor death is brought as a reason for a movie giant success, the movie was big just everywhere, even in place that it barely made the news that a foreign actor die.

 

Even in the franchise, replaying the same role context, it is hard to see any boost of Robin Williams last big roles in a big movie and he was a specially loved figure:

 

Rank Title (click to view) Studio Adjusted Gross Unadjusted Gross Release
1 Night at the Museum Fox $330,781,500 $250,863,268 12/22/06
2 Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian Fox $212,165,200 $177,243,721 5/22/09
3 Night at the Museum: Secret of the Tomb Fox $124,227,800 $113,746,621 12/19/14

I'm not saying it's the only factor, just one of many. For example, it helps that the movie is actually popular or even good. Being one of the main stars, instead of supporting character helps too. 

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3 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

Predictions for other winter movies:

 

Jumanji: 145

The Post: 130

Pitch Perfect: 110

Shape of Water: 75

Ferdinand: 60

Downsizing: 55

Lady Bird: 50

Greatest Showman: 45

Three Billboards: 45

Molly's Game: 40

All The Money In The World: 35

CMBYN: 35

Phantom Thread: 30

Father Figures: 25

 

Tons of freaking movies out man.

Jumanji: 200M

The Post: 155M

Pitch Perfect: 115M

Shape of Water: 110M

Greatest Showman: 75M

Ferdinand: 65M

Downsizing: 45M

Lady Bird: 40M

Three Billboards: 33M

Father Figures: 30M

Phantom Thread: 30M

CMBYN: 27M

Money: 25M

Molly's Game: 20M

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Just now, JB33 said:

I'm personally hoping for $66M.

I'm hoping for whatever the Math people say I need to get the weekend to $231.77M...since it's a hope, not an actual expectation:)...

 

I will say Friday morning (through noon/1pm) had a little weakness (aka open seats), so Sat (especially) and Sun could go higher than Friday...

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3 hours ago, Brainbug said:

 

Avatar will go down...again.

 

Brace yourself, younglings.

 

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Nice effort paddiwon but let me introduce you to advanced levels of meme creation.

 

 

Let's be honest though guys and gals, Star Wars is no longer a threat. Superhero movies are oversaturated and is no longer a threat.  The only threat to Jim is Jim. Also let me remind you this is a USA&Canada thread so let's keep talking about Avatar to a minimum! The king of the world doesn't deal with provinces.

 

Also what's this about me making plans to murder an Avatar cast member, that's a bit spicy I thought we would be more sensitive towards Carrie's death here! Besides Avatar won't need underhanded tactics.

 

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4 minutes ago, JB33 said:

I'm personally hoping for $66M.

Me too. That’s the highest realistic number I can imagine :D

 

Well you guys know me, up to my usual craziness. I gotta grab some food then head to the theater for the 4th time seeing TLJ, have to get my collectible IMAX ticket :P 

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8 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

 

 

Also what's this about me making plans to murder an Avatar cast member, that's a bit spicy I thought we would be more sensitive towards Carrie's death here! Besides Avatar won't need underhanded tactics.

 

 

 

It's Robertman, he's not exactly the sensitive kind :P  But hey we need some dark humor sometimes ^^

 

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13 minutes ago, JonathanLB said:

Me too. That’s the highest realistic number I can imagine :D

 

Well you guys know me, up to my usual craziness. I gotta grab some food then head to the theater for the 4th time seeing TLJ, have to get my collectible IMAX ticket :P 

Got to respect the crazy, I've seen something in cinema over 10 times before over 4 months.

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1 hour ago, jjack339 said:

maybe, but I think TLJ is a different case than the norm. With every other movie it is the fanboys running online and inflating user reviews and then the normies getting around to watch it and they don't like it as much as the fanboys.

 

With TLJ it is the fanboys (and trolls) who are negative on it, so in this case it is possible the normies will actually "correct" the score over time that was skewed by jilted nerd rages. 

pissing of the (fanboys) thats basically the fanbase and thats their core demographic.

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33 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

There are so many Woody Allen movies that everyone thinks will be Oscar contenders and flop spectacularly. Remember Irrational Man? Magic in the Moonlight? Cafe Society (this one was doing ok for the first few weeks at least)? Moral of the story: Don't put Selena Gomez in your predictions next year!

Midnight in Paris and Blue Jasmine made him a name again. But at this point that goodwill has largely faded.

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