RandomCat Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 I think people are jumping the WOM gun pretty quick here. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Yeh I wouldn’t have expected drop on Tuesday. Most schools are still in, so I would’ve expected cheap Tuesdays (which are huge this year) to either keep it flat or increase. Hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyA10 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 21 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said: The thing this is heading for a 2nd weekend 33%-40 below TFA while Opening weekend was off by 11%. X-mas and Boxing day pick up some slack but it really shows sign of worse legs already. TFA had 75% of students/kids on holidays during its first week. TLJ is on 30% or so. (RO had something like 40-45% if I’m not mistaken)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Looking at the 2006 Wednesday, seems like it could stay flat or increase. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?view=1day&sortdate=2006-12-20&p=.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, TommyA10 said: TFA had 75% of students/kids on holidays during its first week. TLJ is on 30% or so. (RO had something like 40-45% if I’m not mistaken)... So it probably should’ve seen more benefit from discount Tuesdays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, titanic2187 said: backlash for TLJ was so intense among fans, and they are more passionate to hate it and spread the bad buzz than those general public that spread the good buzz.... why the backlash was so harsh? because rian just simply forget or underestimate how people actually like TFA despite being too similar to New hope...it's a movie that move nearly 100m of people into cinema, and gave such a phenomenal nostalgic buzz for public, for sure they will remember clearer for what was happening in TFA... 6 I think people think this is like any other franchise. SW Fanbase is far bigger and more mainstream than any other franchise. If they are not happy, that has an effect on box office. You guys are making it seem MRA or basement dwellers are the only guys not amused. Edited December 20, 2017 by Lordmandeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyGossamer Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, TommyA10 said: TFA had 75% of students/kids on holidays during its first week. TLJ is on 30% or so. (RO had something like 40-45% if I’m not mistaken)... That would imply that discount Tuesday's would've had a greater impact on the number. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyA10 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Just now, Krissykins said: So it probably should’ve seen more benefit from discount Tuesdays. Maybe, maybe not. The only thing certain is we cannot compare TFA’s and TLJ’s first weeks/weekends due to different calendar (at least not to extent to extrapolate TLJ’s legs).That’s all... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, JohnnyGossamer said: That would imply that discount Tuesday's would've had a greater impact on the number. I am curious to see how the other movies performed. Some of the family movies were actually up on Monday from last week, so there is at least a small holiday boost in effect already. I think if it was a random Monday earlier in the Month, Jedi would have dropped 70% or more instead of 58%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 a review from IMDB on the movie's main page: haven't watched the film so have removed a coupel of actor names by chance it was spoliery: Quote And even worse the acting is bad. [actor-name1] delivers some of the dialogue as though [redacted] appearing in The Room with Tommy Wiseau, and [actor-name2] giving the worst Star Wars performance since Jar Jar Binks was strutting his stuff.Imagine Transformers meets Pacific Rim with the acting of The Room and the storyline to beat all mad storylines and you'll have an idea of the vacuous tepid dull overlong tedious steaming pile of odorous cinema you'll see in a long long time.I went straight back in to watch it again to make sure it wasn't just me missing the whole point of this film. It wasn't. It really is that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said: I think people think this is like any other franchise. SW Fanbase is far bigger and more mainstream than any other franchise. If they are not happy, that has an effect on box office. You guys are making it seem MRA or basement dwellers are the only guys not amused. I don’t think it’s just some random pattern that the second eps in each trilogy have dropped off so much. Sure part of it is because the first have always been phenomenons, but in the case of AotC, by that point there was a significnat backlash in the fanbase against TPM that surely affected Clones. And in ESBs case, the movie was not met with universal praise among the ga at the time of release (or at least according to those who were around to remember it). So now we have TLJ, which also has seemed to split the fanbase, and hence is looking likely for another huge second installment drop off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomCat Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, a2knet said: a review from IMDB on the movie's main page: haven't watched the film so have removed a coupel of actor names by chance it was spoliery: Someone just saw the Disaster Artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, TommyA10 said: Maybe, maybe not. The only thing certain is we cannot compare TFA’s and TLJ’s first weeks/weekends due to different calendar (at least not to extent to extrapolate TLJ’s legs).That’s all... We’re not comparing their first weeks due to the calendar. Again, that’s why we wouldn’t be expecting a 6% drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, MovieMan89 said: I don’t think it’s just some random pattern that the second eps in each trilogy have dropped off so much. Sure part of it is because the first have always been phenomenons, but in the case of AotC, by that point there was a significnat backlash in the fanbase against TPM that surely affected Clones. And in ESBs case, the movie was not met with universal praise among the ga at the time of release (or at least according to those who were around to remember it). So now we have TLJ, which also has seemed to split the fanbase, and hence is looking likely for another huge second installment drop off. Personally I don’t think they can sell anything as exciting to audiences as the ROTJ conclusion or getting to see Anakin turn into Vader. Everyone assumes the 3rd movie always increases from 2nd one, but not sure it will happen this time. Not that it matters. I would think Episode 9 still goes over $600m domestic even in worst case scenario. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 TFA did 2.88x the 5-day. Gives SW8 ~754 dom after a 261.9 5-day. RO did 2.8x the 5-day. Gives ~733 dom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said: Personally I don’t think they can sell anything as exciting to audiences as the ROTJ conclusion or getting to see Anakin turn into Vader. Everyone assumes the 3rd movie always increases from 2nd one, but not sure it will happen this time. Not that it matters. I would think Episode 9 still goes over $600m domestic even in worst case scenario. With the story/character choices they made in TLJ, I would have to agree. Not exactly sure what’s going to be the big hook now for the finale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass2 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 23 minutes ago, titanic2187 said: backlash for TLJ was so intense among fans, and they are more passionate to hate it and spread the bad buzz than those general public that spread the good buzz.... why the backlash was so harsh? because rian just simply forget or underestimate how people actually like TFA despite being too similar to New hope...it's a movie that move nearly 100m of people into cinema, and gave such a phenomenal nostalgic buzz for public, for sure they will remember clearer for what was happening in TFA... So harsh? With three SW movies in three years, TLJ was expected to fall from TFA. It is doing pretty, pretty good for a non-event movie (not to mention #1 for the year), and we will see if JJ's return does any better for Episode IX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said: Personally I don’t think they can sell anything as exciting to audiences as the ROTJ conclusion or getting to see Anakin turn into Vader. Everyone assumes the 3rd movie always increases from 2nd one, but not sure it will happen this time. Not that it matters. I would think Episode 9 still goes over $600m domestic even in worst case scenario. 1 This is the first time ever, I am not that interested in the next SW movie. Thank you Rian Johnson Edited December 20, 2017 by Lordmandeep 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 31 minutes ago, Ohana said: And on that note That is exactly what I would expect, RT has years of experience in running their site and I am sure a Bot attack would have been easily detected and sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomCat Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Curious how this relates to everything else. No # exists in a vacuum. If every movie has a drop or low increase compared to what it should, it would put this # in a different light. The reverse is also true. Certainly not a boring run, I'll give it that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
