AVENGERS ENDGAME | 1939.4 M overseas ● 2797.8 M worldwide

[Claudio]

We need an Avengers movie to come out in the same year with Avatar 2. Going to be an interesting time in BOT. 

 

[GOATPeterJackson]

2 minutes ago, cdsacken said:

Titantic is even more dominant but it was simply a comparison. It's also not in the same era and had nothing like Twitter, streaming or Netflix to deal with. It was in the box office for what felt like 2 years. 

 

Titanic was a monster, the greatest bo run without question, that's why the Federer comparison makes no sense. You can't be the unquestioned greatest on par with freaking Titanic if you have a clear losing record against both of your rivals.

[KJsooner]

8 minutes ago, NCsoft said:

Nope Wrong! I'm more of an award season geek than box office.

Black Panther has received no best director nomination, did not win the golden globes, and did not get nominated for British academy best pictures nor did it get a Director's guild nomination. Has only 7 Oscar nominations and did not get any major nomination apart from best picture (which made it basically a "also run")

btw, I was talking about Endgame, not Black panther, nice try though.

 

 

Frankly, I could give a rat-ass what the academy nominates and doesn’t nominate. I’ve disagreed with them so many times on who should, I don’t pay attention to them. The Dark Knight didn’t get nominated for best picture/best director. Which is a complete joke. The green book winning best picture is just longest in a line of travesties. Another is Moonlight over La La Land. 

[Elessar]

Hmm according to BOM IW's 5th weekend was 14.5m (OS - China) and it went on to make about 50m more (again OS-China), if my calculation are correct. Including DOM's 50m after Memorial Days 4-day, that's almost exactly 100m more it grossed after this weekend WW. If EG does the same it would be only 10m short of Avatar. 

 

Dunno why @Charlie Jatinder is throwing in the towel yet. It's too close to comfort, the champagne bottles remain corked for the time being...

Edited May 26, 2019 by Elessar

[NCsoft]

2 minutes ago, KJsooner said:

 

Frankly, I could give a rat-ass what the academy nominates and doesn’t nominate. I’ve disagreed with them so many times on who should, I don’t pay attention to them. The Dark Knight didn’t get nominated for best picture/best director. Which is a complete joke. The green book winning best picture is just longest in a line of travesties. Another is Moonlight over La La Land. 

You were the one who brought Academy up to justify Avatar being a bad film though 

It's otherwise not usually a good idea to bring Academy awards into a box office discussion.

Edited May 26, 2019 by NCsoft

[keysersoze123]

People who think Avatar adjusts down, dont take into account market expansion. How big was Avatar in China. It crushed the previous record by 3x. In today's market it would have crushed 1B. There are other expanding markets as well. Even latin american markets have expanded big time.

 

When TItanic broke domestic record it crushed the previous record by 50%. OS more than doubled previous hits. Avatar was not at titanic level but it almost beat Titanic by a huge margin.

 

Avengers run is extremely impressive bcos of growth from IW which itself grew a lot from previous avengers movie. Basically Endgame doubled Ultron in 4 years which is uber impressive.

[Maximum Avery]

48 minutes ago, Omni said:

So Endgame is projected to get within 99% of Avatar's WW gross, and you seriously think these fights can be kept out of a forum filled with MCU and Cameron fans.

 

The only thing that could avoid all of that would be objectivity, but it's a rare thing when you root for a team.

We root for numbers? Records.. 1 film topping another... and getting a life in between 

 

TTVOMJ

[charlie Jatinder]

4 minutes ago, Elessar said:

Hmm according to BOM IW's 5th weekend was 14.5m (OS - China) and it went on to make about 50m more (again OS-China), if my calculation are correct. Including DOM's 50m after Memorial Days 4-day, that's almost exactly 100m more it grossed after this weekend WW. If EG does the same it would be only 10m short of Avatar. 

 

Dunno why @Charlie Jatinder is throwing in the towel yet. It's too close to comfort, the champagne bottles remain corked for the time being...

IW had open weeks in May end and Early June till Incredibles 2 internationally. It droped just 21% in 6th weekend, with Endgame having Godzilla in 6th weekend, that 21% is impossible. Further next week will see Dark Phoenix. And up next TS 4. 

[danhtruong5]

5 minutes ago, Elessar said:

Hmm according to BOM IW's 5th weekend was 14.5m (OS - China) and it went on to make about 50m more (again OS-China), if my calculation are correct. Including DOM's 50m after Memorial Days 4-day, that's almost exactly 100m more it grossed after this weekend WW. If EG does the same it would be only 10m short of Avatar. 

 

Dunno why @Charlie Jatinder is throwing in the towel yet. It's too close to comfort, the champagne bottles remain corked for the time being...

Hmmm? After Memorial Day, IW  made how much more dollars WW? Someone said earlier $143M ???

[cdsacken]

8 minutes ago, GOATPeterJackson said:

 

Titanic was a monster, the greatest bo run without question, that's why the Federer comparison makes no sense. You can't be the unquestioned greatest on par with freaking Titanic if you have a clear losing record against both of your rivals.

Titanic is like the greatest football player ever in 1937. Not a fair comparison

[charlie Jatinder]

Trajectory projection without any re-release.

 

 

	USA	China	Rest	WW	Change
Week 0		154.00	153.00	307.00
Week 1	474.00	357.00	648.00	1,479.00
Week 2	187.00	81.00	273.00	541.00	-63.42%
Week 3	81.00	24.00	109.00	214.00	-60.44%
Week 4	40.00	13.00	52.00	105.00	-50.93%
Week 5	27.00		22.00	49.00	-53.33%
Week 6	15.00		10.00	25.00	-48.98%
Week 7	10.00		5.00	15.00	-40.00%
Rest	19.00		9.00	28.00
Total	853.00	629.00	1,281.00	2,763.00

 

[cdsacken]

37 minutes ago, VenomXXR said:

The average critical rating on RT is 8.30 for Endgame and 8.26 for Black Panther, so saying it's "nowhere close" is wrong. 

He also thinks Avatar 2 is doing 4b with 1.2b in China so take his statements with a grain of salt.

[keysersoze123]

You should always compare movies in similar era. The fact that Titanic doubled the biggest movie previously WW which was Jurassic Park(very audience friendly DInosaurs). Titanic did it as 3.5 hr drama was crazy. Also there were few megaplexes and more importantly NO IMAX, PLF or 3D.

[john2000]

3 minutes ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

IW had open weeks in May end and Early June till Incredibles 2 internationally. It droped just 21% in 6th weekend, with Endgame having Godzilla in 6th weekend, that 21% is impossible. Further next week will see Dark Phoenix. And up next TS 4. 

when can we expect eg to top 2.7 ?

[NCsoft]

6 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

People who think Avatar adjusts down, dont take into account market expansion. How big was Avatar in China. It crushed the previous record by 3x. In today's market it would have crushed 1B. There are other expanding markets as well. Even latin american markets have expanded big time.

  

When TItanic broke domestic record it crushed the previous record by 50%. OS more than doubled previous hits. Avatar was not at titanic level but it almost beat Titanic by a huge margin.

 

Avengers run is extremely impressive bcos of growth from IW which itself grew a lot from previous avengers movie. Basically Endgame doubled Ultron in 4 years which is uber impressive.

Oh yeah, there's no way Avatar adjust down, even if global Inflation and exchange rates cancels each other out, Market expansion itself would propel a film to a different stratosphere. 

The fact that 2019 global market is $42B+ and was $29.4B in 2009 should be a very clear indicator that market expansion rules over everything. People are trying to ignore that to suit certain narratives. 

[Elessar]

5 minutes ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

IW had open weeks in May end and Early June till Incredibles 2 internationally. It droped just 21% in 6th weekend, with Endgame having Godzilla in 6th weekend, that 21% is impossible. Further next week will see Dark Phoenix. And up next TS 4. 

Sure, that might change things slightly.

[Elessar]

6 minutes ago, danhtruong5 said:

Hmmm? After Memorial Day, IW  made how much more dollars WW? Someone said earlier $143M ???

I believe that was with China but China's run has ended for EG.

[NCsoft]

4 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

You should always compare movies in similar era. The fact that Titanic doubled the biggest movie previously WW which was Jurassic Park(very audience friendly DInosaurs). Titanic did it as 3.5 hr drama was crazy. Also there were few megaplexes and more importantly NO IMAX, PLF or 3D.

That massive take down took only 4.5 years, global markets didn't change that much from 1993 to 1997, greatest ownage in box office is there ever is one. 

[Ezen Baklattan]

Moderation: this is not the fucking Avatar thread. Cut it out now.

[JimiQ]

12 minutes ago, cdsacken said:

Titanic is like the greatest football player ever in 1937. Not a fair comparison

Titanic is Pete Sampras.

 

14 minutes ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

IW had open weeks in May end and Early June till Incredibles 2 internationally. It droped just 21% in 6th weekend, with Endgame having Godzilla in 6th weekend, that 21% is impossible. Further next week will see Dark Phoenix. And up next TS 4. 

Lack of movie competition was due to existence of world cup competition