DEADPOOL 2 WEEKEND THREAD | Spoilers = BANNED INTO OBLIVION | Dp2 125M and 300 WW debut...Asgard Sun update pg 123

[Biggestgeekever]

Date	Rank	Gross	% Change	Theaters	Per Theater	Total Gross	Days
2018/05/18	1	$53,034,421		4,349	$12,195	$53,034,421	1
2018/05/19	1	$40,474,865	-24%	4,349	$9,307	$93,509,286	2
2018/05/20	1	$31,997,867	-21%	4,349	$7,358	$125,507,153	3

 

Very strong Sunday for DP2.

[Krissykins]

6 hours ago, Thrylos 7 said:

Only Wonder Woman is a hit (and maybe suicide squad ). Warner’s reaction speaks volumes , I don’t  think they consider BvS or mos hits. Oh and BvS was decimated by civil war , MOS was decimated by a gazillion marvel films and even if we want to talk about cultural events Wonder Woman was decimated by black panther. The less said about JL the better.

 

6 hours ago, Lordmandeep said:

JL made less than Doctor Strange of all films so yes.. 

 

6 hours ago, GraceRandolph said:

Lol those other movies (sans Wonder Woman) are the reason why Justice league bombed. They were panned and hated.  I wouldn’t call them hits since they did massive damage and thus lost more money to the DCEU in the long run. 

I’d still say Wonder Woman, Suicide Squad, Man of Steel and Batman v Superman were financial hits. 

 

$3.1billion over 4 films. Those are hits. 

 

Justice League yeh, but it doesn’t mean the previous films weren’t financial hits. 

[a2k]

125.51*2.37=297.5

125.51*2.38=298.7

 

If DP2 were heading for 2.37-2.38x multi organically, Fox is not gonna end it below 300 and a push will happen for sure.

 

But I think it will get well over 300 by itself,

125.51*2.45 = 307.5

125.51*2.55 = 320.1

Edited May 21, 2018 by A2k Raptor

[Mojoguy]

Wasn't Sunday a Canadian holiday? That would explain the decent Sunday drops.

[Mekanos]

Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman were very successful. MOS and BVS were profitable but underperformed considering their big openings but weak legs, it was obvious WB wanted more from them. JL was an outright disaster.

 

Not sure what you would call that batting average.

[TalismanRing]

Just now, Mojoguy said:

Wasn't Sunday a Canadian holiday? That would explain the decent Sunday drops.

Monday is Victoria Day which cushions Sunday drops a bit

[Krissykins]

3 minutes ago, Mekanos said:

Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman were very successful. MOS and BVS were profitable but underperformed considering their big openings but weak legs, it was obvious WB wanted more from them. JL was an outright disaster.

 

Not sure what you would call that batting average.

4 to 1, I guess. 

[dudalb]

2 minutes ago, Mekanos said:

Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman were very successful. MOS and BVS were profitable but underperformed considering their big openings but weak legs, it was obvious WB wanted more from them. JL was an outright disaster.

 

Not sure what you would call that batting average.

Pretty much it except I would put SS somewhere between MOS/BVS  and Wondy in terms of success.SS made quite a bit of money, but did not wow audiences the way that WW did.It was one of those films people turn out to see but are not all that excited about afterwards. That DC seems to opting for "Birds of Prey" as the next film for Robbie as Harlquinn tells you something.

[dudalb]

5 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

4 to 1, I guess. 

Problem for DC was they thought that BVS would put the DCU up there with the MCU in terms of success and name branding, and it did not.

That's the basic problem; the DCU did fairly well on the whole,( except for JL)but doing fairly well was not what Warners wanted. They wanted an MCU level of success both in terms of money and of name branding, and it did not happen.

Edited May 21, 2018 by dudalb

[terrestrial]

5 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

I’d still say Wonder Woman, Suicide Squad, Man of Steel and Batman v Superman were financial hits. 

$3.1billion over 4 films. Those are hits.

Wasn't Man of Steel the one with the insane money earned per product placement?

I think something between $160m and $180m or so were then the headlines.

If this chart from The-Numbers is correct I do not see any reason to disagree with your POV

	Wonder Woman	Suicide Squad	Man of Steel	Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
Domestic Release Date	Jun 2, 2017	Aug 5, 2016	Jun 14, 2013	Mar 25, 2016
Production Budget	$150,000,000	$175,000,000	$225,000,000	$250,000,000
Opening Weekend Theaters	4,165	4,255	4,207	4,242
Maximum Theaters	4,165	4,255	4,207	4,256
Theatrical Engagements	38,939	31,523	21,125	25,005
Domestic Opening Weekend	$103,251,471	$133,682,248	$116,619,362	$166,007,347
Domestic Box Office	$412,563,408	$325,100,054	$291,045,518	$330,360,194
Inflation Adjusted Domestic Box Office	$412,563,408	$337,126,874	$321,116,635	$342,581,612
International Box Office	$404,449,407	$421,000,000	$376,954,000	$537,800,000
Worldwide Box Office	$817,012,815	$746,100,054	$667,999,518	$868,160,194

 

 

[a2k]

1 minute ago, Mekanos said:

Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman were very successful. MOS and BVS were profitable but underperformed considering their big openings but weak legs, it was obvious WB wanted more from them. JL was an outright disaster.

 

Not sure what you would call that batting average.

JL can be arguably called a flop. But a movie that does 2.19x (658/300) the prod budget worldwide cannot be tagged a disaster.

Pacific Rim 411/190 = 2.16

Edge of Tomorrow 370.5/178 = 2.08

Legend of Tarzan 356.7/180 = 1.98

 

Theatrical revenue for JL will be about 260.

OS-China + Dom + China: 323*0.33 + 229*0.55 + 106*0.25 = 259

So it would need to dip in to non-theatrical revenue to cover rest of it's prod budget and then there's a big marketing budget still to recover so like the reports say, it lost money. 'Flop' may be fair but not 'disaster'.

 

[Mekanos]

1 minute ago, A2k Raptor said:

JL can be arguably called a flop. But a movie that does 2.19x (658/300) the prod budget worldwide cannot be tagged a disaster.

Pacific Rim 411/190 = 2.16

Edge of Tomorrow 370.5/178 = 2.08

Legend of Tarzan 356.7/180 = 1.98

 

Theatrical revenue for JL will be about 260.

OS-China + Dom + China: 323*0.33 + 229*0.55 + 106*0.25 = 259

So it would need to dip in to non-theatrical revenue to cover rest of it's prod budget and then there's a big marketing budget still to recover so like the reports say, it lost money. 'Flop' may be fair but not 'disaster'.

 

Losing 60 million is a disaster for a movie with DC's big heroes that's meant to launch a universe. Though it was obvious at some point that WB threw the towel on the movie. When exactly is anybody's guess.

[Mojoguy]

The problem is that WB expected MoS and BvS to make a billion each, which they were never going to do.

What kind of studio expects a billion right out of the gate for a movie?

[a2k]

1 minute ago, Mojoguy said:

The problem is that WB expected MoS and BvS to make a billion each, which they were never going to do.

What kind of studio expects a billion right out of the gate for a movie?

Hint: 

 

 

 

[Mekanos]

1 minute ago, Mojoguy said:

The problem is that WB expected MoS and BvS to make a billion each, which they were never going to do.

What kind of studio expects a billion right out of the gate for a movie?

Considering that BVS had a better Friday than Age Of Ultron, it was definitely possible if people didn't wholesale reject the movie. When it opened, it was in the top ten openings ever, and the only one of them to not reach a billion.

[TalismanRing]

2 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

Wasn't Man of Steel the one with the insane money earned per product placement?

I think something between $160m and $180m or so were then the headlines.

If this chart from The-Numbers is correct I do not see any reason to disagree with your POV

	Wonder Woman	Suicide Squad	Man of Steel	Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
Domestic Release Date	Jun 2, 2017	Aug 5, 2016	Jun 14, 2013	Mar 25, 2016
Production Budget	$150,000,000	$175,000,000	$225,000,000	$250,000,000
Opening Weekend Theaters	4,165	4,255	4,207	4,242
Maximum Theaters	4,165	4,255	4,207	4,256
Theatrical Engagements	38,939	31,523	21,125	25,005
Domestic Opening Weekend	$103,251,471	$133,682,248	$116,619,362	$166,007,347
Domestic Box Office	$412,563,408	$325,100,054	$291,045,518	$330,360,194
Inflation Adjusted Domestic Box Office	$412,563,408	$337,126,874	$321,116,635	$342,581,612
International Box Office	$404,449,407	$421,000,000	$376,954,000	$537,800,000
Worldwide Box Office	$817,012,815	$746,100,054	$667,999,518	$868,160,194

 

 

Most product placement money is quid pro quo in terms of mutual marketing - it's not money that goes to the studio or film except in rare circumstances.  Minions had almost $600m worth which is why advertising for it was everywhere and non stop for a year.

 

Deadline in their Most Valuable Blockbuster Tournament round up pegged MOS for $42.7m in profit (less than1/3rd of Thor The Dark World and 1/9th IM3 that year)

http://deadline.com/2014/03/iron-man-3-gravity-man-of-steel-profit-most-profitable-movies-2013-701662/

 

 

[Mekanos]

Man Iron Man 3 made a fucking shitload of money. It does kinda put things in perspective that it was twice as profitable as Civil War, but CW was an important launchpad for Phase 3 and building up the Marvel brand even more.

[LonePirate]

Can this franchise war bullshit be moved to the appropriate thread?

[Krissykins]

10 minutes ago, dudalb said:

Problem for DC was they thought that BVS would put the DCU up there with the MCU in terms of success and name branding, and it did not.

That's the basic problem; the DCU did fairly well on the whole,( except for JL)but doing fairly well was not what Warners wanted. They wanted an MCU level of success both in terms of money and of name branding, and it did not happen.

Their solo films perform similarly to Marvels solo sequels tbh right out of the gate in their debuts. 

 

Suicide Squad (with no China release) - is on the same level box office wise as the Guardians films. 

 

Wonder Woman had similar grosses to Spider Man, Thor, Cap etc, even made more domestically. 

 

The team movie didn’t do well at all. But their other projects do well.

 

I do think Aquaman will pull an Ant-Man though. 

[Krissykins]

Woops I didn’t mean to start a flame war. Apols.