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[baumer]

Was Wings profitable? Hmmm. Not sure. 

[Ledmonkey96]

If GWTW was released to day it'd probably make less than a million dollars at the really high end oscar bait theaters, most theaters aren't going to waste their time with a 4 hour long movie. 

[Barnack]

8 minutes ago, Ledmonkey96 said:

If GWTW was released to day it'd probably make less than a million dollars at the really high end oscar bait theaters, most theaters aren't going to waste their time with a 4 hour long movie. 

It is hard to imagine how it would play today, even if we do not take into account the ultra feminist aspect of the movie mixed by could you imagine the think piece about downplaying slavery, specially if you time the release with a confederate statue going down....

 

But releasing a movie that epic, that incredibly good, but 4 hours ?

 

Not sure how much of a problem it would be once it became a must see if it does people bing watch longer series in a setting the Lords of the rings were quite long and so on, but otherwise could be an issue, does not fit on a IMAX type 70mm projector for example.

[baumer]

You guys were talking about Gone with the Wind as if it was going to be released in this day and age while technology and films have progressed the way they have. What Gone with the Wind was was a massively budgeted film back in 1939 and it was on an epic scale like they had never seen before. So you can't compare a film released in 1939 2 the year 2018.

[Nova]

3 minutes ago, baumer said:

You guys were talking about Gone with the Wind as if it was going to be released in this day and age while technology and films have progressed the way they have. What Gone with the Wind was was a massively budgeted film back in 1939 and it was on an epic scale like they had never seen before. So you can't compare a film released in 1939 2 the year 2018.

It's probably better discussing that than discussing whether SS or BvS were profitable for WB 

[MovieMan89]

30 minutes ago, baumer said:

You guys were talking about Gone with the Wind as if it was going to be released in this day and age while technology and films have progressed the way they have. What Gone with the Wind was was a massively budgeted film back in 1939 and it was on an epic scale like they had never seen before. So you can't compare a film released in 1939 2 the year 2018.

Gone With the Wind is completely irrelevant to modern box office. Yeah, yeah highest grossing movie ever adjusted, I know. Doesn't make it any less irrelevant to modern box office given all the factors of its time. It should never be brought up and compared to much of any of the movies we talk about in box office history. Even the 70's and 80's blockbusters are getting pretty impossible to talk about today given their drastically different time in box office. 

[Barnack]

12 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Gone With the Wind is completely irrelevant to modern box office. Yeah, yeah highest grossing movie ever adjusted, I know. Doesn't make it any less irrelevant to modern box office given all the factors of its time. It should never be brought up and compared to much of any of the movies we talk about in box office history

That a very strange statement.

 

How is Titanic box office 20 year's ago relevant for example ? Those conversation tend to have no relevance at all (no decision by anyone is made on them).

 

A bit like saying Babe Ruth should never be brought up when talking about baseball history or Eddy Shore when talking hockey....

 

The movie you are talking about is still the most common favorite movie of all time by american adults in 2014, is still watched all the time including in theater.

Edited May 22, 2018 by Barnack

[MovieMan89]

5 minutes ago, Barnack said:

That a very strange statement.

 

How is Titanic box office 20 year's ago relevant for example ? Those conversation tend to have no relevance at all (no decision by anyone is made on them)

Still far more relevant than GWTW, which played for years and had a release strategy that is completely foreign to us now. And was also the only movie of its kind out for years.

 

Jumanji and TGS showed us that it is still possible for us to get movies that open small and have insane legs to become big blockbusters. Not that I'm saying either were Titanic obviously, but there's still more of a parallel there than with GWTW. Again, that movie's run is  totally foreign to pretty much any of the movies we talk about in box  office history. 

Edited May 22, 2018 by MovieMan89

[Barnack]

2 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Jumanji and TGS showed us that it is still possible for us to get movies that open small and have insane legs to become big blockbusters. Not that I'm saying either were Titanic obviously, but there's still more of a parallel there than with GWTW. Again, that movie's run is  totally foreign to pretty much any of the movies we talk about in box  office history. 

How can talking about the history of box office would exclude a movie like Gone With the Wind ? One of the biggest moment in box office history.

 

3 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Still far more relevant than GWTW, which played for years and had a release strategy that is completely foreign to us now. And was also the only movie of its kind out for years.

Depend what you mean by relevant here ? What can ever be the goal of a conversation were Gone With the Wind will be brought up, I would imagine that conversation is playing a 100% useless game of trying to determine:

What would be what is the most successful movie of all time ?

What is the most loved movie of all time ?

What is the most impressive performance or biggest box office of all time ?

 

For all those conversation, Gone with the wind seem 100% relevant here, what kind of conversation you ever hear Gone With the Wind being brought up you feel was not relevant ?

 

If you mean by there one should not use Gone With the Wind opening weekend, pre-sales, multiplier legs, re-release, etc... to try to make a prediction model about how a 2018 release will play out, well you are obviously right, but no one ever do that.

[baumer]

3 hours ago, MovieMan89 said:

Gone With the Wind is completely irrelevant to modern box office. Yeah, yeah highest grossing movie ever adjusted, I know. Doesn't make it any less irrelevant to modern box office given all the factors of its time. It should never be brought up and compared to much of any of the movies we talk about in box office history. Even the 70's and 80's blockbusters are getting pretty impossible to talk about today given their drastically different time in box office. 

 

So only films from this decade are films we should talk about, in terms of box office?  

[Thrylos 7]

25 minutes ago, baumer said:

 

So only films from this decade are films we should talk about, in terms of box office?  

Honestly..yes ? The conditions are changing so fast that it becomes kind of irrelevant to talk about films before the internet (and the massive piracy that accompanied it) , or when the exchange rate of the $ to other currencies was drastically different, or China was a non factor, or home video a much smaller factor (with mega blockbusters coming to home video 3 months after their release at the theaters nowadays) , or expensive 3d tickets were the all the rage (and now almost irrelevant).

 

I’d rather talk about whether BvS was considered a success than about titanic and Jurassic park and even older films.

[baumer]

3 hours ago, Thrylos 7 said:

Honestly..yes ? The conditions are changing so fast that it becomes kind of irrelevant to talk about films before the internet (and the massive piracy that accompanied it) , or when the exchange rate of the $ to other currencies was drastically different, or China was a non factor, or home video a much smaller factor (with mega blockbusters coming to home video 3 months after their release at the theaters nowadays) , or expensive 3d tickets were the all the rage (and now almost irrelevant).

 

I’d rather talk about whether BvS was considered a success than about titanic and Jurassic park and even older films.

 

[Mekanos]

Let's just not talk about box office ever again.

[JB33]

10 minutes ago, Thrylos 7 said:

Honestly..yes ? The conditions are changing so fast that it becomes kind of irrelevant to talk about films before the internet (and the massive piracy that accompanied it) , or when the exchange rate of the $ to other currencies was drastically different, or China was a non factor, or home video a much smaller factor (with mega blockbusters coming to home video 3 months after their release at the theaters nowadays) , or expensive 3d tickets were the all the rage (and now almost irrelevant).

 

I’d rather talk about whether BvS was considered a success than about titanic and Jurassic park and even older films.

Some of us are capable of critical thinking though...

[Barnack]

15 minutes ago, Thrylos 7 said:

Honestly..yes ?

I do not think anyone would argue with you that it is relevant to talk films before the Internet box office, but there is never (for people not actively financing them or otherwise) any relevance to any of this.

 

It is obviously a 100% irrelevant conversation to engage into a Lebron vs Jordan debate, Ali vs Tyson or the most successful movie of all time, but useless conversation of stuff we should not talk about is this website very goal. This a website dedicated to the box office talk, like website dedicated into sports will spend a large time into the completely useless talk of trying to rank athlete of all era between them and rank team of different era between them, a website dedicated to the box office will engage in useless mental game of ranking box office performance of all time, not thinking that it has any relevance to talk about it (to say try to make a prediction model when trying to make money predicting box office).

 

If you mean by that, only comparable from the last 2-3 year's should be brought when trying to predict Ant Man 2 performance, that the rest is irrelevant, well for sure but no one bring old movies into those conversation (except for maybe the Avatar bunch).

 

Edited May 22, 2018 by Barnack

[Thrylos 7]

12 minutes ago, baumer said:

 

I meant in threads about new films like this one and doing comparisons but in that context 100% serious. Bringing up something like titanic when talking modern blockbusters is irrelevant. Everything has a place in history but that’s about it.

[harrycaul]

1 hour ago, baumer said:

 

So only films from this decade are films we should talk about, in terms of box office?  

 

A decade is pushing it for me. The market had a very different size and shape then.

 

Of course, I hate all-time box office records all around. I don't think they're particularly meaningful.

[StevenG]

25 minutes ago, Mekanos said:

Let's just not talk about box office ever again.

LOL

True.

[EmpireCity]

I think it is going to hit about $10.5m - $11m on Monday.  

[raulbalarezo]

2 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:

I think it is going to hit about $10.5m - $11m on Monday.  

Sounds okay to me... What about Infinity War? Any chance it makes $3M?

Edited May 22, 2018 by raulbalarezo