Black Panther: Wakanda Forever | Nov 11 2022 | Starring 2023 Best Supporting Actress Oscar Nominee Angela Bassett. She did not do the thing!

[lorddemaxus]

I feel like this is going to be like the opposite of the last couple Disney Marvel movies. Most bits of pre-release news for those movies sounded good and they ended up worse than expected while I feel like it's going to be the other way round for this. Seems to easily have the most troubled production out of any of these films since like AoU rn, but I feel like Coogler delivers a hit honestly.

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

1 minute ago, lorddemaxus said:

I feel like this is going to be like the opposite of the last couple Disney Marvel movies. Most bits of pre-release news for those movies sounded good and they ended up worse than expected while I feel like it's going to be the other way round for this. Seems to easily have the most troubled production out of any of these films since like AoU rn, but I feel like Coogler delivers a hit honestly.

If Coogler pulls this movie off, just give him the keys to the kingdom tbh

 

Yeah, it would be bummer if he spent another decade of his prime on this stuff but he's a proven Hollywood director and this seems like a very important MCU film. If he can make magic happen out of a troubled production..

[Valonqar]

13 hours ago, THUNDER BIRD said:

 

Yep. is it OK to PM to discuss? 

Edited July 14, 2022 by Valonqar

[fabiopazzo2]

10 hours ago, THUNDER BIRD said:

Wow that BP 2 leak is BAD

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[jedijake]

I don't necessarily buy the leak, but it is HELLA vague and general with absolutely no context. You can write an equivalent description to any movie and it will sound equally bad. Let's see what happens and, IF true, let's see what happens between the lines.

 

This movie does stand the risk of going from cultural, character, world building, societal issue breakthrough to overly comic book. That will turn critics and fans against it in a heartbeat. Let's hope they didn't go that route.

[p a p i]

To early to freak out at mere plot points without any details and context. 

[Menor the Destroyer]

5 minutes ago, jedijake said:

I don't necessarily buy the leak, but it is HELLA vague and general with absolutely no context. You can write an equivalent description to any movie and it will sound equally bad. Let's see what happens and, IF true, let's see what happens between the lines.

 

This movie does stand the risk of going from cultural, character, world building, societal issue breakthrough to overly comic book. That will turn critics and fans against it in a heartbeat. Let's hope they didn't go that route.

Very much agreed with your second paragraph. I am much more concerned about this than any specific plot beats (which often will play differently on screen than on page). Especially since Phase 4 so far has not been really strong with the worldbuilding. I just really hope that Atlantis/Namor are written well and generate a powerful story like Killmonger in the first movie, rather than just feeling like bloat and setup for future movies.

[Valonqar]

6 minutes ago, p a p i said:

To early to freak out at mere plot points without any details and context. 

 

While I agree it's too early to freak out or cheer, there's context. The story and beats have a flow and they make sense given the circumstance of having to change the lead. That said, we are not supposed to discuss leaks here so I'll leave it at that. 

 

@Menor Reborn No leak ever talks about world-building so there's nothing to worry about in that regard. Leaks always  just go from A to B, big moment, big twist, the end. 

Edited July 14, 2022 by Valonqar

[reddevil19]

I don't care about leaks or troubled productions. But I was quite unimpressed with the original BP in the first place so my low expectations may help.

I guess it's safe to say we'll see something at Comic Con?

[p a p i]

Nevermind. 

 

 

Edited July 14, 2022 by p a p i

[Menor the Destroyer]

9 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

 

While I agree it's too early to freak out or cheer, there's context. The story and beats have a flow and they make sense given the circumstance of having to change the lead. That said, we are not supposed to discuss leaks here so I'll leave it at that. 

 

@Menor Reborn No leak ever talks about world-building so there's nothing to worry about in that regard. Leaks always  just go from A to B, big moment, big twist, the end. 

I am not speaking in reference to leaks, just that it's one of my biggest worries about the premise chosen for this movie.

[Valonqar]

Ah OK, I understand.

[Rebeccas]

I think this will make a lot of people mad even if it’s executed perfectly. I have faith in Coogler, he hasn’t failed yet. 

[jedijake]

31 minutes ago, Menor Reborn said:

Very much agreed with your second paragraph. I am much more concerned about this than any specific plot beats (which often will play differently on screen than on page). Especially since Phase 4 so far has not been really strong with the worldbuilding. I just really hope that Atlantis/Namor are written well and generate a powerful story like Killmonger in the first movie, rather than just feeling like bloat and setup for future movies.

The thing that made KM work is that he was an ordinary person with circumstantial issues. Yeah he was a supersoldier, but those exist. It was the situation within Wakanda that made him a supervillain.  All of the mythology was created within Wakanda itself.

 

To me, Black Panther was more than a comic book movie. I didn't know about the character until Civil War because I am not a comic book fan. The movie stood on its own two feet within its own universe and could work as any movie. It was a fun movie but also took the themes and aesthetics seriously. I have faith in the fact that Coogler cares enough to do it again.

[charlie Jatinder]

3 hours ago, Valonqar said:

Yep. is it OK to PM to discuss? Judging by reactions on reddit, this will be divisive in fandom. They should have recast. 

I know you have this whole "I don't care about getting spoiled thing" but will it not be better to not actually discuss the thing in PM if you so want to.

 

Why mention anything like recast, divisive whatever in public thread.

[WittyUsername]

10 hours ago, lorddemaxus said:

I feel like this is going to be like the opposite of the last couple Disney Marvel movies. Most bits of pre-release news for those movies sounded good and they ended up worse than expected while I feel like it's going to be the other way round for this. Seems to easily have the most troubled production out of any of these films since like AoU rn, but I feel like Coogler delivers a hit honestly.

Multiverse of Madness had a pretty troubled production as well. 

[charlie Jatinder]

When it is the rule to not discuss leaks, why even mention them here? Just share your precious views on places you read the leak or where its ok to share the leak.

[Cap]

Reminder:

 

please do not veer off into spoiler territory. Less is more when discussing the plot of a film. 

[Valonqar]

14 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

I

 

I said in another post that I wouldn't discuss it anymore. I apologize for the first post. I will remove it. 

Edited July 14, 2022 by Valonqar

[dudalb]

6 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

I know you have this whole "I don't care about getting spoiled thing" but will it not be better to not actually discuss the thing in PM if you so want to.

 

Why mention anything like recast, divisive whatever in public thread.

I think Spoilers only applies to plot details about a movie.

Thinks like recasting,etc are 100% legit in this thread.