Weekend Thread: weekend #s (Actuals) Dumbo $45.99M, Us $33.23M, CM $20.66M

[Matthew]

Just now, TwoMisfits said:

So Deadline agreed with my comp - thanks Deadline:)...

Lol these are early Friday Deadline numbers.. Which most of the time are 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[ScoobyDoo21]

The kids are barely out of school so i am just going to wait before i deem Dumbo to be under performing.

[john2000]

1 minute ago, TwoMisfits said:

So Deadline agreed with my comp - thanks Deadline:)...

heay if you suggest that they stole from you i will have to report you, deadline is a good big site very good in maths thats doesnt not change their prediction every couple of hours 

[john2000]

Just now, ScoobyDoo21 said:

The kids are barely out of school so i am just going to wait before i deem Dumbo to be under performing.

thats exactly what i say all this time ,thank you

[TwoMisfits]

2 minutes ago, john2000 said:

heay if you suggest that they stole from you i will have to report you, deadline is a good big site very good in maths thats doesnt not change their prediction every couple of hours 

I owe you a like, b/c this made me laugh (but this damn thread used up all my reactions til tonight:)...

[YM!]

Yeah, I wouldn’t count out Dumbo just yet. It could jump decently due to Spring Break

[Barnack]

38 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

If people want more "original" content then they hould have gone to see John Carter, Tomorrow Land, The Finest Hours & Queen of Katwee

 

Again as @terrestrial pointed out - go back a  couple of years instead of forward and see why the slate was adjusted.  Also see they cut ties with Spielberg b/c they moved to an in house financed model.  

And I will anwser the same, do you think that I am a moron not knowing all of this ?

 

38 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

800+ movies are released a year in the U.S. -  about 85% of those not by any major studio or even art house division of a major studio

 

And 7,000 movies made not released, almost all movies made have a less than 1 million budget, not sure what is the point being made ?

[john2000]

Just now, TwoMisfits said:

I owe you a like, b/c this made me laugh (but this damn thread used up all my reactions til tonight:)...

 consider it even but for real why you are so jealous of them its ok deadline its just the best and you damn know for sure that they have the best analysts in the buisness

[Matthew]

1 minute ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:

Yeah, I wouldn’t count out Dumbo just yet. It could jump decently due to Spring Break

Your name is very funny considering the profile pic👌👌👌👌😂😂😂

[YM!]

Just now, Matthew said:

Your name is very funny considering the profile pic👌👌👌👌😂😂😂

Moto Moto is thicc. 

[Curtis1986]

Not shocking for Dunno. Buzz was not that high in the first place

[john2000]

1 minute ago, Curtis1986 said:

Not shocking for Dunno. Buzz was not that high in the first place

you mean dumbo ? or his cousin ?

[ZeeSoh]

Aquaman lands at #5 on Deadlines most profitable 2018 movies list with 260m estimated profit. 

 

https://deadline.com/2019/03/aquaman-box-office-profit-2018-1202584701/

[terrestrial]

7 minutes ago, MrPink said:

 

Isn't that why they've had other brands such as Touchstone Pictures? Remains to be seen if they'll leverage the Fox brand as the brand for those other kinds of films, but certainly there's ways to release films outside the family spectrum without tarnishing your brand.

 

@Barnack can't shorten the quote, had to delete it, looked worse and worse

 

Again, I think that has a lot to do with the size and the amount in the years I gave the examples in the log post earlier =

If you make as a studio within a handful or two of years so much minus, me too would start to think, o.K. lets do with the more secure material for a while and lets try out new a bit more cautious than before.

And then the next tries bomed again.

 

= its not only about to create material connectable to the parks, its also burned fingers hands

using your method

 

Spoiler

 

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2016

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1	Rogue One: A Star Wars Story	BV	$532,177,324	4,157	$155,081,681	4,157	12/16	5/4
2	Finding Dory	BV	$486,295,561	4,305	$135,060,273	4,305	6/17	12/8
3	Captain America: Civil War	BV	$408,084,349	4,226	$179,139,142	4,226	5/6	9/22
5	The Jungle Book (2016)	BV	$364,001,123	4,144	$103,261,464	4,028	4/15	9/29
7	Zootopia	BV	$341,268,248	3,959	$75,063,401	3,827	3/4	8/4
11	Moana	BV	$248,757,044	3,875	$56,631,401	3,875	11/23	4/27
13	Doctor Strange	BV	$232,641,920	3,882	$85,058,311	3,882	11/4	3/16
39	Alice Through the Looking Glass	BV	$77,041,381	3,763	$26,858,726	3,763	5/27	9/1
40	Pete's Dragon (2016)	BV	$76,233,151	3,702	$21,514,095	3,702	8/12	12/15
59	The BFG	BV	$55,483,770	3,392	$18,775,350	3,357	7/1	10/13
93	The Finest Hours	BV	$27,569,558	3,143	$10,288,932	3,143	1/29	4/7
128	The Light Between Oceans	BV	$12,545,979	1,500	$4,765,838	1,500	9/2	11/3
141	Queen of Katwe	BV	$8,874,389	1,259	$304,933	52	9/23	1/5

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2015

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1	Star Wars: The Force Awakens	BV	$936,662,225	4,134	$247,966,675	4,134	12/18	6/2
3	Avengers: Age of Ultron	BV	$459,005,868	4,276	$191,271,109	4,276	5/1	10/8
4	Inside Out	BV	$356,461,711	4,158	$90,440,272	3,946	6/19	12/10
9	Cinderella (2015)	BV	$201,151,353	3,848	$67,877,361	3,845	3/13	9/17
14	Ant-Man	BV	$180,202,163	3,868	$57,225,526	3,856	7/17	12/17
26	The Good Dinosaur	BV	$123,087,120	3,749	$39,155,217	3,749	11/25	4/7
30	Tomorrowland	BV	$93,436,322	3,972	$33,028,165	3,972	5/22	9/17
42	Bridge of Spies	BV	$72,313,754	2,873	$15,371,203	2,811	10/16	3/10
63	McFarland, USA	BV	$44,482,410	2,792	$11,020,798	2,755	2/20	7/9
109	Monkey Kingdom	BV	$16,432,322	2,012	$4,577,861	2,012	4/17	7/23
119	Strange Magic	BV	$12,429,583	3,020	$5,504,441	3,020	1/23	4/16

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2014

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3	Guardians of the Galaxy	BV	$333,176,600	4,088	$94,320,883	4,080	8/1	1/22
4	Captain America: The Winter Soldier	BV	$259,766,572	3,938	$95,023,721	3,938	4/4	8/21
8	Maleficent	BV	$241,410,378	3,948	$69,431,298	3,948	5/30	12/4
10	Big Hero 6	BV	$222,527,828	3,773	$56,215,889	3,761	11/7	5/28
23	Into the Woods	BV	$128,002,372	2,833	$31,051,923	2,440	12/25	4/16
48	Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day	BV	$66,954,149	3,117	$18,360,230	3,088	10/10	2/26
55	Planes: Fire & Rescue	BV	$59,165,787	3,839	$17,509,407	3,826	7/18	11/13
59	The Hundred-Foot Journey	BV	$54,240,821	2,167	$10,979,290	2,023	8/8	12/4
62	Muppets Most Wanted	BV	$51,183,113	3,194	$17,005,126	3,194	3/21	7/17
75	Need for Speed	BV	$43,577,636	3,115	$17,844,939	3,115	3/14	6/19
84	Million Dollar Arm	BV	$36,457,627	3,019	$10,515,659	3,019	5/16	8/21
110	Bears	BV	$17,780,194	1,790	$4,776,267	1,720	4/18	7/17
146	The Wind Rises	BV	$5,209,580	496	$313,751	21	2/21	5/22

the wind rises, not sure about budget and who did it.....

2013

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2	Iron Man 3	BV	$409,013,994	4,253	$174,144,585	4,253	5/3	9/12
3	Frozen	BV	$400,738,009	3,742	$243,390	1	11/22	7/17
7	Monsters University	BV	$268,492,764	4,004	$82,429,469	4,004	6/21	12/19
10	Oz The Great and Powerful	BV	$234,911,825	3,912	$79,110,453	3,912	3/8	7/18
12	Thor: The Dark World	BV	$206,362,140	3,841	$85,737,841	3,841	11/8	4/17
39	Planes	BV	$90,288,712	3,716	$22,232,291	3,702	8/9	12/19
40	The Lone Ranger	BV	$89,302,115	3,904	$29,210,849	3,904	7/3	10/10
43	Saving Mr. Banks	BV	$83,301,580	2,671	$413,373	15	12/13	4/17
91	Delivery Man	BV	$30,664,106	3,036	$7,944,977	3,036	11/22	3/20
162	The Fifth Estate	BV	$3,255,008	1,769	$1,673,351	1,769	10/18	12/5

.2012

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1	Marvel's The Avengers	BV	$623,357,910	4,349	$207,438,708	4,349	5/4	10/4
8	Brave	BV	$237,283,207	4,164	$66,323,594	4,164	6/22	1/17
12	Wreck-It Ralph	BV	$189,422,889	3,752	$49,038,712	3,752	11/2	5/2
13	Lincoln	BV	$182,207,973	2,293	$944,308	11	11/9	4/25
41	John Carter	BV	$73,078,100	3,749	$30,180,188	3,749	3/9	6/28
64	The Odd Life of Timothy Green	BV	$51,854,875	2,717	$10,822,903	2,598	8/15	1/17
71	Beauty and the Beast (3D)	BV	$47,617,067	2,625	$17,751,905	2,625	1/13	5/3
82	Finding Nemo (3D)	BV	$41,128,283	2,904	$16,687,773	2,904	9/14	1/17
91	Frankenweenie	BV	$35,291,068	3,005	$11,412,213	3,005	10/5	2/28
94	Monsters, Inc. (3D)	BV	$34,043,006	2,618	$4,774,686	2,618	12/19	5/2
99	Chimpanzee	BV	$28,972,764	1,567	$10,673,748	1,563	4/20	8/9 ????????
108	The Secret World of Arrietty	BV	$19,202,743	1,522	$6,446,395	1,522	2/17	6/7 only distrib
133	People Like Us	BV	$12,434,778	2,055	$4,255,423	2,055	6/29	8/30

 

.2011 (wow, who did green-lit $150m budgeted Mars Needs Moms?)

 

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5	Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides	BV	$241,071,802	4,164	$90,151,958	4,155	5/20	9/29
8	Cars 2	BV	$191,452,396	4,115	$66,135,507	4,115	6/24	12/15
13	The Help	BV	$169,708,112	3,014	$26,044,590	2,534	8/10	3/8
31	Gnomeo and Juliet	BV	$99,967,670	3,037	$25,356,909	2,994	2/11	6/23
33	The Lion King (in 3D)	BV	$94,242,001	2,340	$30,151,614	2,330	9/16	1/12
34	The Muppets	BV	$88,631,237	3,440	$29,239,026	3,440	11/23	4/5
35	Real Steel	BV	$85,468,508	3,440	$27,319,677	3,440	10/7	2/16 at the limit
41	War Horse	BV	$79,884,879	2,856	$7,515,402	2,376	12/25	5/3 at the limit
61	I Am Number Four	BV	$55,100,437	3,156	$19,449,893	3,154	2/18	6/2
105	Winnie the Pooh	BV	$26,692,846	2,405	$7,857,076	2,405	7/15	9/22
116	Mars Needs Moms	BV	$21,392,758	3,117	$6,914,488	3,117	3/11	6/23
122	Fright Night (2011)	BV	$18,302,607	3,114	$7,714,388	3,114	8/19	11/10
126	African Cats	BV	$15,428,747	1,224	$6,003,200	1,220	4/22	7/14???????????????
141	Prom	BV	$10,130,219	2,730	$4,712,638	2,730	4/29	6/23

 

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red was new, animated or live and successful

green something was a change of POV thing or somehow unusual.... and successful bcs of a low / its budget

violett, no mater if new or not, animated or not, bombed, but in opposition to a lot of the other bombs in the market, had partly insane high budgets (like $200m and even $250m)

green-violett mix.... at the limit, bad, but not  huge bomb.... (my fonts... are a bit misbehaving)

some I am not sure aout how to classify

 

in 2011 ##1 and #2 made minus according to some outlets beside one bing an $1b movie (not sure about that, one of the series is / was the most expensive of all time at that year, so mybe)

 

I think they try not enough mid to low budgets, but as some of those fell through too ....

 

Some of their new material is on e.g. the worst bombs sci-fi animated, the worst bombs ever,,.... lists

 

(hhmmmm how would the others react, if they actually would try their hands on some of the new material again.... and be successful with it?

 

In the end a lot of the reasons given are in my POV also based on too many movies released per year, by too many small distributors, they kill each other

Admissions not growing, but roughly 4 times as many movies than ~ 30 years back

 

 

[Matthew]

2 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

Aquaman lands at #5 on Deadlines most profitable 2018 movies list with 260m estimated profit. 

 

https://deadline.com/2019/03/aquaman-box-office-profit-2018-1202584701/

CM profit will be over 300M

[john2000]

3 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

Aquaman lands at #5 on Deadlines most profitable 2018 movies list with 260m estimated profit. 

 

https://deadline.com/2019/03/aquaman-box-office-profit-2018-1202584701/

hey stop spoil it to me 

[Rumpot]

Do people not understand that the majority of the population wants to see the same thing over and over....why do you think Netflix paid 100M for another year of Friends.  Of course one can internally grumble all they want, but Disney, etc well understand human nature and what will make them the most money with the least risk.  Will never change.

[Alli]

Just now, Rumpot said:

Do people not understand that the majority of the population wants to see the same thing over and over....why do you think Netflix paid 100M for another year of Friends.  Of course one can internally grumble all they want, but Disney, etc well understand human nature and what will make them the most money with the least risk.  Will never change.

The other studios manage to diversify things

[TalismanRing]

4 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

Aquaman lands at #5 on Deadlines most profitable 2018 movies list with 260m estimated profit. 

 

https://deadline.com/2019/03/aquaman-box-office-profit-2018-1202584701/

WW Home Entertainment costs at $111m seem low. 

 

Yes DVD/BR are down but Streaming has overtaken them as a revenue source, some films making twice as much on streaming and attendant costs are far lower.

 

Or they putting part of  streaming in with WW TV revenue?

[Rumpot]

4 minutes ago, Alli said:

The other studios manage to diversify things

And they are getting outdone.  Without Disney by now the "theaters are dead" chants would be a lot louder.  People may get their wish too....if Disney decides to pull even half their releases to Disney+ then AMC is probably toast and no number of recliner renovated theaters will save them