Top 30 of 1989. Full List Revealed

[cannastop]

8 minutes ago, Plain Old Tele said:

 

I can argue with the top 7.

I can argue about anything. 👀

[Plain Old Tele]

8 minutes ago, cannastop said:

Whoops kind of sort of made an error here? Kiki's Delivery Service was budgeted about est. ¥800 million ($6.9 million), and Bluth's All Dog's Go to Heaven had a budget of $13.8 million and Disney's The Little Mermaid had $40 million?

 

So Hayao Miyazaki had a budget similar to Don Bluth's but he also made longer movies? Not sure how to parse this. Yes the budget for Bluth's movie is about two times as large, but he had other movies before this with smaller budgets.

 

Twice as large seems like a significant difference. 

[75Live]

16 minutes ago, Plain Old Tele said:

 

I can argue with the top 7.

 

Well you were 78 by then so that's just the grumpy old man coming out 😛

 

 

[cannastop]

9 minutes ago, Plain Old Tele said:

 

Twice as large seems like a significant difference. 

An American Tale was made for $9 million though. And Secret of NIMH was $7 million.I just thought Bluth's budgets were higher by the time 1989 came, though he did split from Spielberg after The Land Before Time.

 

The budget for 91/92's Rock-a-Doodle, though. lol.

 

Disney really needed the box office explosion though, because the budgets for its animated features were really high for their financial environment.

 

There was a news broadcaster who asked Michael Eisner if they were too expensive when this broadcaster was shown some of Oliver & Company unfinished.

Edited September 5, 2019 by cannastop

[cannastop]

4 minutes ago, 75Live said:

 

Well you were 78 by then so that's just the grumpy old man coming out 😛

 

 

Time is nothing for those who saw the big bang.

Edited September 5, 2019 by cannastop

[baumer]

One film that just missed the list, coming in at number 31, was The Cook the thief his Wife and her lover. I was really hoping that one would squeeze in. As I said I'll get the final list of every film that was voted on for this list sometime later on today.

[Jake Gittes]

8 minutes ago, baumer said:

One film that just missed the list, coming in at number 31, was The Cook the thief his Wife and her lover. I was really hoping that one would squeeze in. 

This godforsaken forum I swear.

[Rorschach]

Regardless of the order, a solid top 3 for sure.

[baumer]

2 hours ago, Rorschach said:

Regardless of the order, a solid top 3 for sure.

 When Harry.....and Batman actually tied in points.

[baumer]

Here's the entire list!

 

 

	Movie	Points	# of lists	# of #1	# of top 5
1	Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade	320	21	3	15
2	Do the Right Thing	314	16	3	11
3	Batman	263	17	1	8
4	When Harry Met Sally	263	18	2	7
5	Dead Poet's Society	214	13	0	8
6	Glory	210	14	2	4
7	National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation	207	18	0	7
8	The Little Mermaid	179	14	2	4
9	Back To The Future 2	168	13	0	2
10	Kiki's Delivery Service	141	10	3	4
11	Honey, I Shrunk the Kids	125	11	0	3
12	Parenthood	124	11	0	1
13	The Abyss	120	10	1	3
14	Sex, Lies, And Videotape	112	11	0	1
15	Field of Dreams	102	12	0	0
16	Heathers	101	8	1	2
17	Born on the 4th of July	97	9	0	2
18	Weekend at Bernie's	95	8	0	1
19	Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure	94.5	8	0	2
20	Say Anything	94.5	13	0	2
21	The Killer	94.5	6	0	4
22	Lethal Weapon 2	93.5	12	0	0
23	Henry V	92	7	1	2
24	My Left Foot	91	6	1	1
25	Driving Miss Daisy	89	12	0	0
26	Major League	85.5	8	0	2
27	Crimes and Misdemeanors	81	4	0	1
28	All Dogs Go To Heaven	70	8	0	1
29	Look Who’s Talking	69	8	0	1
30	Uncle Buck	68	7	0	2
31	The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & Her Lover	67.5	5	1	2
32	The Fabulous Baker Boys	62.5	5	0	1
33	Tango & Cash	54.5	6	0	0
34	Road House	51	8	0	0
35	Ghostbusters II	46.5	7	0	0
36	Turner & Hooch	44	6	0	1
37	Dead Calm	42	6	0	1
38	For All Mankind	42	3	0	1
39	Roger and Me	40	3	0	1
40	Lean on Me	38	5	0	0
41	Casualties of War	36	4	0	0
42	Mystery Train	31	2	0	1
43	In the Line of Duty 4	30	1	1	1
44	The War of the Roses	27.5	4	0	0
45	Steel Magnolias	26	6	0	0
46	Black Rain (Japan)	25	1	0	1
47	Devil Hunters	25	1	0	1
48	The Adventures of Baron Munchausen	22	3	0	0
49	Harlem Nights	21.5	3	0	0
50	Black Rain	21	6	0	0
51	Kickboxer	21	3	0	0
52	The Mighty Quinn	20.5	2	0	0
53	Camille Claudel	20	1	0	1
54	Monsieur Hire	20	1	0	1
55	Sea of Love	18	5	0	0
56	Licence To Kill	17.5	2	0	0
57	The Iceman Cometh	16	1	0	0
58	Tongues Untied	16	1	0	0
59	Always	13	5	0	0
60	Dad	13	1	0	0
61	The Burbs	13	1	0	0
62	The Tall Guy	13	1	0	0
63	The Woman in Black	13	1	0	0
64	How To Get Ahead In Advertising	12.5	2	0	0
65	The Inspector Wears Skirts II	12	1	0	0
66	Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down!	12	2	0	0
67	UHF	12	1	0	0
68	Akira	10	0	0	0
69	Drugstore Cowboy	10	1	0	0
70	See No Evil, Hear No Evil	10	4	0	0
71	Fletch Lives	9	1	0	0
72	Karate Kid III	9	2	0	0
73	Johnny Handsome	8.5	2	0	0
74	Skin Deep	8	1	0	0
75	K-9	7.5	2	0	0
76	War Requiem	7	1	0	0
77	Blind Fury	6	3	0	0
78	Chances Are	5	1	0	0
79	Meet the Feebles	5	1	0	0
80	Tap	5	1	0	0
81	Worth Winning	5	1	0	0
82	The Unbelievable Truth	4	1	0	0
83	Gross Anatomy	3.5	1	0	0
84	Pet Sematary	3.5	2	0	0
85	Prisoners of War	3.5	1	0	0
86	Romero	3.5	1	0	0
87	Spirits of the Air, Gremlins of the Clouds	3	1	0	0
88	The Fly II	3	1	0	0
89	The Gods Must Be Crazy 2	2.5	1	0	0
90	Young Enstein	2.5	1	0	0
91	Last Exit To Brooklyn	2	2	0	0
92	Next of Kin	2	1	0	0
93	The Big Picture	2	1	0	0
94	A Dry White Season	1	1	0	0
95	Communion	1	1	0	0
96	Let It Ride	1	1	0	0
97	The Wizard	1	1	0	0
98	Cyborg	0.5	1	0	0
99	Farewell to the King	0.5	1	0	0
100	New York Stories (segment Life Lessons)	0.5	1	0	0
101	Pink Cadillac	0.5	1	0	0
102	Silence Like Glass	0.5	1	0	0
103	The Dream Team	0.5	1	0	0
104	Warlock	0.5	1	0	0
105	We're No Angels	0.5	1	0	0

[baumer]

Disappointed that Tango and Cash missed as well as Road House.

The American version of Black Rain was really good as well.

[Cap]

6 minutes ago, baumer said:

Here's the entire list!

 

 

	Movie	Points	# of lists	# of #1	# of top 5
3	Batman	263	17	1	8
4	When Harry Met Sally	263	18	2	7

 

What was the tie breaking system again? 

[grim22]

3 minutes ago, captainwondyful said:

What was the tie breaking system again? 

Alphabetical order.

[Jake Gittes]

30	Uncle Buck	68
31	The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & Her Lover	67.5

 

 

I know now what @aabattery felt. 

[HeadShot]

17 hours ago, baumer said:

#10

Kiki's Delivery Service

Starring:  Kirsten Dunst, Kappei Yamaguchi

Directed by:  Hayao Miyazaki

 

Number of Lists:  10

Number one:  3

Top 5:  4

 

Take it away @cannastop

 

Kiki's Delivery Service is Miyazaki in his stride, after also making the masterpieces Castle in the Sky and My Neighbor Totoro. While he did not intend to direct the movie at first, he obviously made it his own, adapting from Eiko Kadono's children's novel. The movie is astonishingly beautiful, with impeccable art direction. Miyazaki knows how to make something beautiful and grand with perhaps not as many resources as Disney or Bluth had at this same time, although this might also be due to the lower salary that Japanese animators made and still make today compared to animators in America or Europe.

 

Whatever Miyazaki intended by making this movie, it is rich in themes and empowering too. Kiki learns so much from older women in the movie, and while this was probably in the original book too, it fits in with other material that Miyazaki wrote directly for the screen in his previous movies.

 

The plot is that the 13 year old Kiki must follow the custom of a young witch living on her own, away from her family. While the story doesn't get more complex that that, being mostly multiple set pieces, each scene is a gem, and nearly perfect too. And while it is a great movie, it is not undone by Kiki's own personal perfection, her being perhaps the best role model ever in a Miyazaki movie.

 

This movie helped but Hayao Miyazaki on the map, being the #1 movie in Japan for 1989, after his other movies didn't sell that many tickets. He later of course, would direct the #1 movie of all time in Japan, Spirited Away.

 

 

17 hours ago, baumer said:

#8

The Little Mermaid

Starring:  Jodi Benson, Pat Carroll

Directed by:  Ron Clements, Joe Musker

 

Number of Lists:  14

Number one:  2

Top 5:  4

 

SF Examiner:  

The love story between mermaid Ariel (the sweet voice of Jodi Benson) and mortal Prince Eric (Christopher Daniel Barnes) is fairy-tale wonderful. And there is a slew of terrific side characters that make the movie as entertaining for adults as it is for children.

Pat Carroll gives voice to Ursula, a hefty octopus and deceitful seawitch who makes a sinister deal with Ariel for the love of her Prince Eric. And Sebastian the wise crab is played with crustaceous chutzpah by Samuel E. Wright. He gets to sing lyricist Howard Ashman and composer Alan Menken's calypso, "Under the Sea," which won best song Oscar. The movie also won an Oscar for best score. Sebastian also sings my other favorite, "Kiss the Girl."

"Mermaid" was the last animated Disney feature that was completely drawn (it took more than a million drawings), with no computer-assisted graphics. Four hundred artists took three years to make it. The rerelease, however, has been digitally renovated so that the imperfections of the original (cel dirt and paint crawl on the original negative) are now eliminated. If you have kids, take them and have a ball.

 

My Take:  Have not seen it

 

iconic

[Tower]

34 minutes ago, baumer said:

Here's the entire list!

 

 

	Movie	Points	# of lists	# of #1	# of top 5
61	The Burbs	13	1	0	0
67	UHF	12	1	0	0
68	Akira	10	0	0	0

This is odd, I had both The Burbs and UHF on my list with UHF higher. Also, how does Akira make points without being on any list?

[TalismanRing]

17 hours ago, captainwondyful said:

Who else was the person with taste and put The Little Mermaid at #1?  Thank you!

 

 

 

 

All hail Ashman and Menken who brought Broadway to WDAS

 

 

 

[grim22]

35 minutes ago, Tower said:

This is odd, I had both The Burbs and UHF on my list with UHF higher. Also, how does Akira make points without being on any list?

The Burbs was on 2 lists, yours and @JJ-8. Must be a paste error.

[Cap]

29 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

 All hail Ashman and Menken who brought Broadway to WDAS

 

By the by, I'm putting Top 50 Musicals Submission List tonight.

[narniadis]

Thanks Baumer, a great list as always