Weekend Thread (10/15-17) | Halloween Kills 4.85M Previews, Last Duel 350K

[BoxOfficeFangrl]

1 hour ago, Plain Old Tele said:

Speaking (somewhat) as an old I don’t think there’s this huge fear or resistance about going to the theaters anymore, there’s just very little that’s interesting unless you happen to like dude-skewing action movies or historical epics. Which, granted, some do! But it’s not like these are automatically broadly appealing to an older audience. 

October had turned into a pretty strong month for moviegoing in recent years, yet so far in October 2021, we haven't had one weekend where the entire Top 10 has cleared a million dollars. There's a lack of box office depth, maybe it's entirely down to the product, maybe not. We do know that more than a quarter of Bond's domestic audience made the first trip back to theaters since the pandemic last week. If that's the level of event it takes for adults to show up, IMO that’s not the greatest thing for theaters and we're not back to "normal" yet.

Edited October 18, 2021 by BoxOfficeFangrl

[Val357]

1 minute ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

October had turned into a pretty strong month for moviegoing in recent years, yet so far October 2021, we haven't had one weekend where the entire Top 10 has cleared a million dollars. There's a lack of box office depth, maybe it's entirely down to the product, maybe not. We do know that a quarter of Bond's domestic audience made the first trip back to theaters since the pandemic last week. If that's the level of event it takes for adults to show up, IMO that’s not the greatest thing for theaters. 

Nailed it. The lack of depth is exactly what has me thinking the box office has sooooo much further to go to truly be back.

[Joyous Legion]

Depth is a pretty straightforward lagging function of product releases. Sep 10-24 we're absolutely dire, which is the exact lag to manifest in a dearth of 1M+ in Oct. The October releases will fix the depth issue by early Nov.

[titanic2187]

57 minutes ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

October had turned into a pretty strong month for moviegoing in recent years, yet so far in October 2021, we haven't had one weekend where the entire Top 10 has cleared a million dollars. There's a lack of box office depth, maybe it's entirely down to the product, maybe not. We do know that more than a quarter of Bond's domestic audience made the first trip back to theaters since the pandemic last week. If that's the level of event it takes for adults to show up, IMO that’s not the greatest thing for theaters and we're not back to "normal" yet.

So far each weekend in oct generate close to 110m gross but 2019 had 134m and 146m in 2018, suggest that there are 20-30m "unclaimed" box office still available out there. 

[EmpireCity]

I keep mentioning this, but do not underestimate the impact of either theaters not being open, theaters operating on reduced hours and theaters operating at reduced capacity still has.  

 

I can tell you with absolute certainty that some of the box office has been muted at various chains due to labor shortages.  

 

That might not be a giant percentage, but it does have an impact.  Even if that impact is 5%, that is a $5m-$7.5m impact given the size of a weekend.  

[filmlover]

‘The Last Duel’ Box Office Debacle: Hollywood’s Battle for Older Moviegoers https://t.co/zDvkpSrAXt

— The Hollywood Reporter (@THR) October 18, 2021

 

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Only two percent of moviegoers turning up to see Ridley Scott’s A-list The Last Duel on opening weekend were 17 or younger, while just 17 percent were between the ages 18 and 24. Conversely, more than 80 percent of ticket buyers were 25 years old and up.

 

The historical drama, set in Medieval France, limped to $4.8 million domestically, behind already muted expectations and a career worst debut for the well-respected Scott. The movie’s plight underscores Hollywood’s battle to win back customers 35 and older, who, before the pandemic, were among the most frequent moviegoers and would fuel a title such as The Last Duel. No longer.

 

[grim22]

4 minutes ago, filmlover said:

 

 

 

 

 

[Joyous Legion]

One again trades seem to have the age analysis backwards. 25+ shows up for 3.8M, not too awful. Under 25 gave it less than 1M, which is a death sentence. Killed not by olds staying away cause covid but the youths staying away because it was unappealing AF

[TwoMisfits]

2 minutes ago, Let There Be Legion said:

One again trades seem to have the age analysis backwards. 25+ shows up for 3.8M, not too awful. Under 25 gave it less than 1M, which is a death sentence. Killed not by olds staying away cause covid but the youths staying away because it was unappealing AF

 

No, 25+ 3.8M is an absolutely horrific number for this type of budget movie...

 

Most of these movies always skew around 80% 25 and up...so, you just had the same percent age breakdown at WAY lower numbers, so olds didn't show up (nor did youngs, but they are always the smallest portion of the box office for this movie)...

[Joyous Legion]

7 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

No, 25+ 3.8M is an absolutely horrific number for this type of budget movie...

Well, sure. Giving a movie with no commercial appeal a budget like this was financial malpractice from the word go.    
 

I’m just saying that when you look  at the breakdown of under 25 vs over, the issue was not olds staying away because covid. If it was, it would have am atypically high under 25 share. The issue was people, broadly, did not want to pay to see the movie.

[filmlover]

The issue is less "young people didn't care to see The Last Duel" and more "audiences over 35 (the real demographic that mostly powers the box office since younger audiences only show up for their favorite franchises in this day and age) aren't coming back to the movies during an ongoing pandemic." Bond was the first movie to bring that crowd out in especially notable numbers since this all started and even that paled in comparison to previous movies in the franchise. Non-IP hits like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and Ford v. Ferrari and 1917 would be making noticeably less than what they did had they come out in this environment too.

[TalismanRing]

Only two percent of moviegoers turning up to see Ridley Scott’s A-list The Last Duel on opening weekend were 17 or younger, while just 17 percent were between the ages 18 and 24.

 

The 2% were probably the ones that couldn't find babysitters.  It's a Rated R movie about rape in the middle ages.  Did they think a bunch of  6-16 yr olds were dying to see this? 

 

[Krissykins]

Most of Halloween Kills’ audience were aged 25+. 
 

The film looked boring. I think that’s the reason no one went to see it. 

[charlie Jatinder]

HK 9.5
NTTD 6.45

V2 4.7

 

[Gavin Feng]

WTF

 

 

 

 

[Issac Newton]

Strikes are working 🤧

Edited October 18, 2021 by Issac Newton

[Cmasterclay]

The Marvel moves all make total sense but Indy 5 moving sucks man

[AJG]

6 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said:

WTF

 

 

 

 

 

Disney+ isn't going to have a new Marvel movie for the first 7 months of 2022.

The only movie from the major Disney brands they'll be getting in that timeframe is Pixars Going Red.

 

International will still get Fox movies, but still....

[filmlover]

Disney gonna dominate Summer of 2023 between Guardians 3, The Little Mermaid, a Pixar movie, Indiana Jones, Ant-Man, and a Disney-branded movie (Barry Jenkins' Lion King prequel/sequel/whatever?) set for August.

[Cmasterclay]

The Marvel moves all make sense honestly. Doctor Strange needed some distance from No Way Home to build hype (assuming they connect), plus the obvious distance from Batman. Also, Marvels stood a real chance of finishing below The Flash with the Keaton factor and Batfleck and Supergirl. Black Panther has no chance of losing to a DC movie, and MCU doesn't do well with losing.

 

Fucking blows about Indy, summer 2022 really blows outside Top Gun and the Peele movie. Mission Impossible will save us all.