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PSA:   As a heads up to everyone, we'll be starting a new thread here very soon. For those who are newer to the forum, we typically have to split threads once they reach 1,000+ pages and are still highly active. In the past, such topics have created database slowdown issues that affect the entire forum.   Rest assured, this thread will be archived when it is locked and a link to the new one will be posted to help you find it easily (it will also be pinned to the top of the box o
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Yea we're gonna drop all this non tracking stuff. That expressly means you, @excel1. Next post from you that isn't tracking related is a thread ban.    Anyone else continues, it's points. 

We're all tired of the non-tracking related thread derailments. This is your fair warning.

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How is Crawdads tracking?

 

With Thor looking to underwhelm and likely drop next weekend, the only 2 wide releases are  Crawdads and Paws of Fury. Wondering if it could overperform given the book's popularity and lack of major releases against it. Or it's an adult programmer that opens a bit low and holds on? ...or maybe it just flops

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Thor: Love and Thunder, counted today at 10am EST for Thursday, July 7:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 834 (15 showtimes, 2 true Sell Outs where I'm pretty sure that I added the right numbers because the cinema halls were the same)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 1.598 (28 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 434 (11 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 229 (9 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 484 (12 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 1.547 (28 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 2.717 (45 showtimes, all-time record in my theaters!)


Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 7.843.
Comps: TSS (4.1M from previews) had on Tuesday for Thursday 1.089 sold tickets = x7.2 = 29.5M (and no day and date release),

SC (8.8M from previews) had on Wednesday = 1 day later 3.166 sold tickets = 21.8M and 1 day left so not under 25M+.
And this comp is rather for fun: TGM had 2.864 sold tickets on Tuesday for Thursday which would mean over 50M from previews for Thor. Of course the walk-up situation is different here.

 

Yesterday my comps weren't good and today they're worse :). Still, that presale number for Thor is very good. I can't complain. That's e.g. only 1k tickets below NWH (8.8k) with 4 days left (on Wednesday for Sunday). And films of that genre with already so many sold tickets don't have big jumps over the last few days, normally around 15% per day.
Of course the many showtimes at the AMC Universal helped but OTOH enough other films also had plenty of showtimes but many nearly empty shows.


Tomorrow and/or on Thursday I will count both the Friday and Sunday of Thor (with Spidey and Dr. Strange 2 comps). Depends on how busy I am.

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1 hour ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

How is Crawdads tracking?

 

With Thor looking to underwhelm and likely drop next weekend, the only 2 wide releases are  Crawdads and Paws of Fury. Wondering if it could overperform given the book's popularity and lack of major releases against it. Or it's an adult programmer that opens a bit low and holds on? ...or maybe it just flops

they posted about it.

The tracking is similar to Black Phone at the same point.

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1 hour ago, Eric the Minion said:

I'm the only person who cares, but Super Pets has showtimes popped up at Cinemarks, with yet another 2 PM preview start time. @EmpireCity have any word on when tickets for that will drop?

July 12th I believe 

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23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Thor Love and Thunder Denver Thursday Showings

AMC Westminster 24

Total 1356 3809 35.60%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 1536 4985 30.81%

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
7211 529 40655 17.74% 15 253

 

AMCs sold 4685
Cinemarks sold 1034
Regals sold 826
Harkins sold 666

 

1.20x Top Gun Maverick T-3 (23.15M)

0.667x Doctor Strange MoM T-3 (24.01M) [+820]

1.32x Batman T-3 (28.47M)

0.440x NWH T-3 (22.02M)

Thor Love and Thunder Denver Thursday Showings

AMC Westminster 24

Total 1466 3809 38.49%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 1631 4985 32.72%

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
7937 726 41246 19.24% 15 265

 

AMCs sold 5071
Cinemarks sold 1115
Regals sold 956
Harkins sold 795

 

1.16x Top Gun Maverick T-2 (22.40M)

0.669x Doctor Strange MoM T-2 (24.07M) [+1059]

1.27x Batman T-2 (27.43M)

0.451x NWH T-2 (22.53M)

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Thor Love and Thunder Denver Thursday Showings

AMC Westminster 24

Total 1466 3809 38.49%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 1631 4985 32.72%

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
7937 726 41246 19.24% 15 265

 

AMCs sold 5071
Cinemarks sold 1115
Regals sold 956
Harkins sold 795

 

1.16x Top Gun Maverick T-2 (22.40M)

0.669x Doctor Strange MoM T-2 (24.07M) [+1059]

1.27x Batman T-2 (27.43M)

0.451x NWH T-2 (22.53M)

Good news is DS comp went up. Bad news is its still way below DS in sales. Expectation from Charlie was Thor would go ahead of DS2 today as it has 1 weekday short this week. 

 

Wednesday was a weak day for DS2 at Denver. Let us see if Thor goes ahead. 

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23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Thor Love and Thunder Megaplex

 

T-3 Thursday(199 showings): 7701(+619)/48875

1.09x Top Gun Maverick T-3 (20.97M)

0.601x Doctor Strange MoM T-3 (21.64M) [+1144]

1.19x Batman T-3 (25.69M)

0.337x NWH T-3 (16.83M)

 

T-4 Friday(258 showings): 4905(+495)/67683

0.652x Top Gun Maverick T-4 (21.34M)

0.553x Doctor Strange MoM T-4 (30.26M) [+1084]

1.17x Batman T-4 (40.84M)

0.269x NWH T-4 (19.35M)

 

T-5 Saturday(264 showings): 2867(+383)/69227

0.507x Top Gun Maverick T-5 (19.29M)

0.504x Doctor Strange MoM T-5 (29.16M) [+820]

1.25x Batman T-5 (54.25M)

0.237x NWH T-5 (17.52M)

 

T-6 Sunday(253 showings): 1012(+139)/68879

0.646x Top Gun Maverick T-6 (23.70M)

0.656x Doctor Strange MoM T-6 (25.52M) [+241]

1.86x Batman T-6 (63.39M)

0.346x NWH T-6 (22.17M)

Thor Love and Thunder Megaplex

 

T-2 Thursday(200 showings): 8826(+869)/49177

1.09x Top Gun Maverick T-2 (20.91M)

0.627x Doctor Strange MoM T-2 (22.56M) [+1273]

1.17x Batman T-2 (25.29M)

0.365x NWH T-2 (18.23M)

 

T-3 Friday(258 showings): 5693(+788)/67683

0.546x Doctor Strange MoM T-3 (29.89M) [+1547]

1.09x Batman T-3 (37.98M)

0.283x NWH T-3 (20.35M)

 

T-4 Saturday(264 showings): 3299(+432)/69227

0.485x Doctor Strange MoM T-4 (28.04M) [+1117]

1.11x Batman T-4 (48.00M)

0.242x NWH T-4 (17.87M)

 

T-5 Sunday(253 showings): 1155(+143)/68879

0.660x Doctor Strange MoM T-5 (25.67M) [+208]

1.60x Batman T-5 (54.54M)

0.341x NWH T-5 (21.88M)

 

For some reason the marathon showing at Megaplex is under a business date of Wednesday, so I never picked it up until now. That's why the Thursday increase is only 869, I didn't count the marathon showing as new tickets sold. Also removed the Top Gun comp. It was never that great of a comp anyways, but the overperformance here is really showing.

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5 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Good news is DS comp went up. Bad news is its still way below DS in sales. Expectation from Charlie was Thor would go ahead of DS2 today as it has 1 weekday short this week. 

 

Wednesday was a weak day for DS2 at Denver. Let us see if Thor goes ahead. 

Thor has even weaker reviews than DS2. It can make up some ground with overall PS being well below but I doubt the trend will be drastically better. 

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23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Thor Love and Thunder Alamo Drafthouse

 

T-3 Thursday(205 showings): 17834(+909)/29522 ATP: $15.23

0.769x Doctor Strange MoM T-3 (27.69M) [+1269]

1.28x Batman T-3 (22.48M, only using Thurs gross of 17.6M)

0.625x NWH T-3 (31.23M)

 

T-4 Friday(250 showings): 15685(+1272)/36586 ATP: $15.22

0.709x Doctor Strange MoM T-4 (38.77M) [+1639]

1.03x Batman T-4 (36.00M)

0.577x NWH T-4 (41.47M)

 

T-5 Saturday(259 showings): 14594(+860)/38106 ATP: $14.70

0.620x Doctor Strange MoM T-5 (35.84M) [+1667]

0.899x Batman T-5 (38.89M)

0.521x NWH T-5 (38.53M)

 

T-6 Sunday(241 showings): 8847(+947)/35420 ATP: $14.33

0.646x Doctor Strange MoM T-6 (25.13M) [+1262]

1.06x Batman T-6 (36.26M)

0.541x NWH T-6 (34.73M)

Thor Love and Thunder Alamo Drafthouse

 

T-2 Thursday(237 showings): 19083(+1249)/32770 ATP: $15.18

0.743x Doctor Strange MoM T-2 (26.74M) [+2506]

1.19x Batman T-2 (20.99M, only using Thurs gross of 17.6M)

0.647x NWH T-2 (32.35M)

 

T-3 Friday(290 showings): 17292(+1607)/41301 ATP: $15.16

0.669x Doctor Strange MoM T-3 (36.58M) [+3729]

0.927x Batman T-3 (32.43M)

0.636x NWH T-3 (45.72M)

 

T-4 Saturday(310 showings): 16435(+1751)/43889 ATP: $14.67

0.600x Doctor Strange MoM T-4 (34.66M) [+3871]

0.840x Batman T-4 (36.32M)

0.587x NWH T-4 (43.39M)

 

T-5 Sunday(283 showings): 10145(+1298)/40690 ATP: $14.41

0.639x Doctor Strange MoM T-5 (24.85M) [+2188]

0.988x Batman T-5 (33.71M)

0.588x NWH T-5 (37.75M)

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10 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Good news is DS comp went up. Bad news is its still way below DS in sales. Expectation from Charlie was Thor would go ahead of DS2 today as it has 1 weekday short this week. 

 

Wednesday was a weak day for DS2 at Denver. Let us see if Thor goes ahead. 

At this point i'm more than fine with Charlie low end. 

 

28M and low 150M OW and i'm happy, all things considered.

 

Let's just hope this time people will like it and legs will be decent.

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Thor Love and Thunder Denver Thursday Showings

AMC Westminster 24

Total 1466 3809 38.49%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 1631 4985 32.72%

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
7937 726 41246 19.24% 15 265

 

AMCs sold 5071
Cinemarks sold 1115
Regals sold 956
Harkins sold 795

 

1.16x Top Gun Maverick T-2 (22.40M)

0.669x Doctor Strange MoM T-2 (24.07M) [+1059]

1.27x Batman T-2 (27.43M)

0.451x NWH T-2 (22.53M)

Thor just cannot seem to separate much from the path Strange took to the finish line, and time is just running out for it to do so. Only slightly above where one would have expected given that final week trajectory:

 

Denver = 7,853 vs 7,937

Megaplex =8,467 vs 8,570 [Thu only]

Drafthouse = 18,887 vs 19,083

 

If pattern holds, Alpha would be expected to land at 328-329K with update later tonight (CC @ZackM)

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Megaplex and Drafthouse aren't that much better. At least at Drafthouse it already is at a good shape. Let us see how wednesday goes now. 

 

I think based on data seen, MTC1 will be sub 30K for today. But its tricky to extrapolate from just 1 market for across the country. So we have to wait for @ZackM update. 

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3 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:

At this point i'm more than fine with Charlie low end. 

 

28M and low 150M OW and i'm happy, all things considered.

 

Let's just hope this time people will like it and legs will be decent.

IMO Charlie's low end is optimistic as well. Let us wait for MTC1 data. 

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