The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)

[Cooper Legion]

51 minutes ago, AnDr3s said:

how's BPWF opening looking?

180-210ish

[filmlover]

In future news, we officially have confirmation as to why Christmas was largely vacated this year (word on the street must've been that multiplexes would have to book this on like 9-10 screens to get in a show every half hour).

 

 

‘Avatar: The Way of Water’ Runtime Sails Past Three Hours https://t.co/VMruewPN2d

— The Hollywood Reporter (@THR) October 29, 2022

[ZackM]

On 10/27/2022 at 11:28 PM, ZackM said:

 

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Alpha Chain Premiere Night Seat Report: T-14 days
	Last Day	2 Days Ago	3 Days Ago	4 Days Ago	5 Days Ago
Showings Added	15	5	4	4	1
Seats Added	1,123	384	903	559	54
Seats Sold	5,892	3,296	3,362	2,670	2,539
10/27/2022	Theaters	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Pct. Sold
Total	439	7,354	185,107	1,148,912	16.11%
% of Seats Sold	Sellouts	90%+	80%+	70%+	60%+
# of Showings	0	19	111	293	542
ATP
$17.11
Black Panther Double Feature Alpha Chain Premiere Night Seat Report: T-14 days
10/27/2022	Theaters	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Pct. Sold
Total	92	96	6,765	22,291	30.35%
% of Seats Sold	Sellouts	90%+	80%+	70%+	60%+
# of Showings	0	4	6	13	24
ATP
$17.58

 

 

 

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Comps
	Thor: Love & Thunder		Dr. Strange MoM
	Unweighted	Weighted	Unweighted	Weighted
D0
T-0
T-1
T-2
T-3
T-4
T-5
T-6
T-7
T-8
T-9
T-10
T-11
T-12
T-13
T-14	$26.9	$26.8	$21.7	$22.2
T-15	$26.7	$26.6	$21.3	$21.8
T-16	$26.8	$26.7	$21.2	$21.7
T-17	$26.9	$26.8	$21.2	$21.6
T-18	$27.2	$27.1	$21.4	$21.8

 

 

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Alpha Chain Premiere Night Seat Report: T-13 days
	Last Day	2 Days Ago	3 Days Ago	4 Days Ago	5 Days Ago
Showings Added	22	15	5	4	4
Seats Added	1,872	1,123	384	903	559
Seats Sold	5,612	5,892	3,296	3,362	2,670
10/28/2022	Theaters	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Pct. Sold
Total	439	7,376	190,719	1,150,784	16.57%
% of Seats Sold	Sellouts	90%+	80%+	70%+	60%+
# of Showings	0	18	118	309	584
ATP
$17.07
Black Panther Double Feature Alpha Chain Premiere Night Seat Report: T-13 days
10/28/2022	Theaters	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Pct. Sold
Total	92	96	6,919	22,291	31.04%
% of Seats Sold	Sellouts	90%+	80%+	70%+	60%+
# of Showings	0	4	8	14	24
ATP
$17.58

 

 

 

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Comps
	Thor: Love & Thunder		Dr. Strange MoM
	Unweighted	Weighted	Unweighted	Weighted
D0
T-0
T-1
T-2
T-3
T-4
T-5
T-6
T-7
T-8
T-9
T-10
T-11
T-12
T-13	$26.7	$26.6	$22.0	$22.5
T-14	$26.9	$26.8	$21.7	$22.2
T-15	$26.7	$26.6	$21.3	$21.8
T-16	$26.8	$26.7	$21.2	$21.7
T-17	$26.9	$26.8	$21.2	$21.6
T-18	$27.2	$27.1	$21.4	$21.8

[MattW]

I just noticed Friday Nov 11th is veteran's day, so probably a smaller saturday bump than normal.

[Porthos]

On 10/28/2022 at 1:42 AM, Porthos said:

 

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report:

T-14 days and counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	2	294	29934	37024	7060	19.07%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

230

 

T-14 Comp

	%		Sold T-14	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Comp
MoM	67.89		190	10399		0/351	32037/42436	24.51%		21117	33.43%		24.44m
L&T	107.80		195	6549		0/228	25051/31600	20.72%		16962	41.62%		31.26m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Black Panther 2's current tickets sold versus that final number.

 

Regal:     1694/11835  [14.31% sold]
Matinee:    333/4103  [8.12% | 4.70% of all tickets sold]

 

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report:

T-13 days and counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	2	296	29904	37154	7250	19.51%

 

Total Showings Added Today	2
Total Seats Added Today	130
Total Seats Sold Today	190

 

T-13 Comp

	%		Sold T-13	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Comp
MoM	68.30		216	10615		0/351	31821/42436	25.01%		21117	34.33%		24.59m
L&T	106.40		265	6814		0/228	24786/31600	21.56%		16962	42.74%		30.86m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Black Panther 2's current tickets sold versus that final number.

 

Regal:     1739/11835  [14.69% sold]
Matinee:    347/4103  [8.46% | 4.79% of all tickets sold]

 

===

 

NOTE:  Yesterday's seats sold was overcounted by 30 seats due to a sheet error. The actual amount of seats sold yesterday was 230 instead of 260.  That post (as well as the quote of it here) has been edited to reflect the revised number.

[jedijake]

Hoping for something like

$30m(Thur)

$60m(Fri)-elevated due to Veterans Day

$60m(Sat)-pretty much flat from Friday

$45m(Sun)-drop of course, but better hold than normal due to hopefully good WOM

$195 m OW

Edited October 29, 2022 by jedijake

[Eric Prime]

On 10/28/2022 at 1:42 AM, Ericstein's Monster said:

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-14 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	246	6962	42932	16.22%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 307

 

Comp

0.490x of Spider-Man: No Way Home T-14 (24.51M)

1.431x of The Batman T-14 (30.9M)

0.724x of Doctor Strange 2 T-14 (26.08M)

1.299x of Thor 4 T-14 (37.67M)

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-13 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	246	7255	42932	16.90%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 293

 

Comp

0.491x of Spider-Man: No Way Home T-13 (24.53M)

1.459x of The Batman T-13 (31.51M)

0.744x of Doctor Strange 2 T-13 (26.78M)

1.298x of Thor 4 T-13 (37.65M)

 

I can't believe Rihanna herself made 293 people buy tickets just on her song alone. No other reason whatsoever this film sold 293 tickets. Her power is surely unmathced!

[katnisscinnaplex]

On 10/28/2022 at 10:28 AM, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Black Panther 2	T-13	Jax	6	128	176*	2,063	18,561	11.11%
		Phx	6	125	137*	1,620	18,513	8.75%
		Ral	8	120	138*	2,575	14,882	17.30%
	Total		20	373	451*	6,258	51,956	12.04%
BP2 DF	T-13	Jax	2	3	5*	130	292	44.52%
	Total		2	3	5*	130	292	44.52%
One Piece	T-6	Jax	5	24	4	158	5,074	3.11%
		Phx	5	14	2	171	2,702	6.33%
		Ral	7	19	10	177	2,929	6.04%
	Total		17	57	16	506	10,705	4.73%

*BP new sales since Wednesday*

 

One Piece T-6 comps

 - Dragon Ball - .532x (2.287m)

 

Black Panther T-13 comps

 - Black Widow - 3.07x (40.53m)

 - Thor 4 - missed

 - DS2 (T-27) - .62x (22.38m)

 - NWH - .361x (18.03m)

 - Batman - missed

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
One Piece	T-5	Jax	5	24	23	181	5,074	3.57%
		Phx	5	14	6	177	2,702	6.55%
		Ral	7	19	13	190	2,929	6.49%
	Total		17	57	42	548	10,705	5.12%

 

One Piece T-5 comps

 - Dragon Ball - .558x (2.4m)

 - MHA - .614x (1.77m)

[Tinalera]

10 hours ago, filmlover said:

In future news, we officially have confirmation as to why Christmas was largely vacated this year (word on the street must've been that multiplexes would have to book this on like 9-10 screens to get in a show every half hour).

 

 

Have there been any movies of recent (even pre covid) that ran the 3 plus hour mark (and lets not forget that with premovie ads we could be looking at 3.5+ sitting time in theatre)? I do wonder in todays post covid, and all other stuff going on right now-how will people respond overall. Obviously first weekend will do bonkers numbers (yes I think a 1 billion opening like Endgame is not out of the question at all), just wonder after that how many people say "its worth it" vs "wait for it for streaming, 3 hours is a long time"

 

[filmlover]

1 minute ago, Tinalera said:

 

Babylon is reportedly over 3 hours as well. This is where those insulated food and drink containers come in handy!

[TwoMisfits]

5 minutes ago, Tinalera said:

 

I think Puss in Boots was smart for NOT vacating...I can't see any extended family outings (which are FAR fewer than pre-Covid/inflation, but which will still happen at Xmas) picking a 3 1/4 hour movie as the "13 ticket" grandma/aunts/uncles/cousins/grandkids outing if they have ANYONE under the age of 13...

 

[filmlover]

Just now, TwoMisfits said:

I think Puss in Boots was smart for NOT vacating...I can't see any extended family outings (which are FAR fewer than pre-Covid/inflation, but which will still happen at Xmas) picking a 3 1/4 hour movie as the "13 ticket" grandma/aunts/uncles/cousins/grandkids outing if they have ANYONE under the age of 13...

 

To be fair, Puss in Boots was originally supposed to come out in September (and moved to Christmas once The Super Mario Bros Movie went to 2023) so it's been a finished movie awaiting release for a while. They're likely betting on it being the Sing 2 to Avatar's Spider-Man.

[XXRDJisDoctorDoom]

Looks like Avatar: The Way of Water tickets will go on sale November 21st. 

[Eric Prime]

 

@Porthos @Inceptionzq @keysersoze123 @Tinalera @katnisscinnaplex @charlie Jatinder @Menor Reborn @el sid @GOGODanca Good luck team!

 

[filmlover]

The fact they're putting them on sale right before Strange World comes out (instead of waiting until the weekend after their latest movie has released like Disney usually does) feels like confirmation that Disney knows that movie is going nowhere.

[M37]

17 minutes ago, Tinalera said:

 

Endgame was 3:00, Batman was 2:55, and Elvis 2:40 (before the ridiculous ~25 mins of previews we now get). While I did end up watching Batman on HBO (across two sittings) because of the time commitment and slower paced crime drama tone, Avatar’s hook is more the visual effects, which are not replicable at home

 

That run time means IMAX/primary PLFs will be playing a roughly 11a/3p/7p/11p schedule, probably for the full 3 weeks of holiday break. But it will take 8-9 screens to run an every 30 minute show schedule, which means like only half the shows will be in PLF or 3D. Guess we’ll find out pretty quickly how much 3D is still a draw 

 

 

[filmlover]

In other movie news, the iPic chain website has posted that tickets for Bones and All and Devotion will both be going on sale on the 11th.

 

IPIC Theaters - The Ultimate Theater Experience

[charlie Jatinder]

Seems like only 3D sales will start initially. I suppose 2D will come around near release. So if you want advance sales, change to 3D which I am told is not really an option for smaller cinemas. Most 3D screens are in bigger plexes, so can over index in those.

Edited October 29, 2022 by charlie Jatinder

[charlie Jatinder]

54 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
One Piece	T-5	Jax	5	24	23	181	5,074	3.57%
		Phx	5	14	6	177	2,702	6.55%
		Ral	7	19	13	190	2,929	6.49%
	Total		17	57	42	548	10,705	5.12%

 

One Piece T-5 comps

 - Dragon Ball - .558x (2.4m)

 - MHA - .614x (1.77m)

Around same as Harkins. I am expecting MHA and JJK0 to be better comps than Dragon Ball.

[M37]

18 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Seems like only 3D sales will start initially. I suppose 2D will come around near release. So if you want advance sales, change to 3D which I am told is not really an option for smaller cinemas. Most 3D screens are in bigger plexes, so can over index in those.

 

Disney's strategy here continues to be ... curious.  It does kinda feel like they're just letting JC call the shots, pushing all in on Avatar2 ushering in a return to 3D glory, despite the running time and price point. Maybe he/they are right, but if not, I'm wondering at what point do we start to see course correction (aka panic). Don't think they'll be a huge fan rush for tickets, especially so far from release, and certainly not on previous NWH/Star Wars December release levels