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2 hours ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:

I wouldn't pop that champagne just yet. This and Ant-Man 3 feel like flukes to me. The latter didn't work with general audiences while the former was fucked the moment Gunn came aboard.

Guardians underperfomance would be a confirmation. Or not.

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23 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie Day Area TC Shows New Sold Seats % Sold
D&D T-17 Jax 5 43 10 48 6,624 0.72%
    Phx 6 24 5 28 4,821 0.58%
    Ral 7 28 5 31 4,346 0.71%
  Total   18 95 20 107 15,791 0.68%
D&D (3-26 EA) T-13 Jax 4 4 4 13 450 2.89%
    Phx 1 1 3 3 123 2.44%
    Ral 2 2 2 2 387 0.52%
  Total   7 7 9 18 960 1.88%
D&D (3-29 EA) T-16 Jax 5 5 0 0 1,456 0.00%
    Phx 1 1 0 0 410 0.00%
    Ral 1 1 0 0 261 0.00%
  Total   7 7 0 0 2,127 0.00%
John Wick 4 T-10 Jax 6 42 18 309 7,238 4.27%
    Phx 6 28 23 362 5,746 6.30%
    Ral 8 37 19 311 5,199 5.98%
  Total   20 107 60 982 18,183 5.40%
Shazam 2 T-3 Jax 5 56 23 209 9,457 2.21%
    Phx 6 29 19 216 6,134 3.52%
    Ral 8 54 24 217 7,817 2.78%
  Total   19 139 66 642 23,408 2.74%
Super Mario T-23 Jax 6 119 31 230 18,328 1.25%
    Phx 6 48 9 276 8,167 3.38%
    Ral 8 105 32 384 14,507 2.65%
  Total   19 272 72 890 41,002 2.17%

 

Shazam 2 T-3 comps

 - Sonic 2 - .725x (3.61m)

 - Fantastic Beasts 3 - .342x (2.05m)

 - No Time to Die - missed

 - F9 - .443x (3.15m)

 - Ghostbusters - .702x (2.91m)

 - Shang-Chi - .353x (3.11m)

 - Venom 2 - .402x (4.67m)

 - Black Adam - missed

 - Suicide Squad - 1.04x (4.27m)

 - Free Guy - 2.1x (4.63m)

 - Creed III (Total) - .827x (4.51m)

 - Snake Eyes - 3.89x (5.45m)

 - Jungle Cruise - 2.69x (7.25m)

 

Gonna keep throwing comps at it because it certainly isn't performing like a CBM

 

John Wick 4 T-10 comps

 - Suicide Squad - 3.25x (13.33m)

 - F9 - 1.215x (8.63m)

 - No Time to Die - 2.08x (10.82m)

 - Top Gun 2 - .445x (6.54m)

 - Jurassic 3 - .403x (7.14m)

 - Scream VI - 1.343x (7.66m)

 

D&D T-17 comps

 - F9 - .243x (1.72m)

 - Sonic 2 - .391x (1.94m)

 - Shazam 2 - missed

 - Knock at the Cabin - 1.75x (2.54m)

 - Cocaine Bear - 1.754x (2.08m)

 

Super Mario T-23 comps

 - DBZ - 2.528x (10.88m)

 - Black Widow - .82x (10.82m)

 - Thor 4 - .264x (7.65m)

 - JW3 - .582x (10.3m)

Movie Day Area TC Shows New Sold Seats % Sold
D&D T-16 Jax 5 43 9 57 6,624 0.86%
    Phx 6 24 6 34 4,821 0.71%
    Ral 8 36 11 42 5,095 0.82%
  Total   19 103 26 133 16,540 0.80%
D&D (3-26 EA) T-12 Jax 4 4 2 15 450 3.33%
    Phx 1 1 0 3 123 2.44%
    Ral 2 2 6 8 387 2.07%
  Total   7 7 8 26 960 2.71%
D&D (3-29 EA) T-15 Jax 5 5 2 2 1,456 0.14%
    Phx 1 1 0 0 410 0.00%
    Ral 1 1 0 0 261 0.00%
  Total   7 7 2 2 2,127 0.09%
John Wick 4 T-9 Jax 6 42 7 316 7,238 4.37%
    Phx 6 28 38 400 5,746 6.96%
    Ral 8 37 19 330 5,199 6.35%
  Total   20 107 64 1,046 18,183 5.75%
Shazam 2 T-2 Jax 6 57 41 250 9,626 2.60%
    Phx 6 29 11 227 6,134 3.70%
    Ral 8 54 21 238 7,817 3.04%
  Total   20 140 73 715 23,577 3.03%
Super Mario T-22 Jax 6 119 24 254 18,328 1.39%
    Phx 6 48 9 285 8,167 3.49%
    Ral 8 105 11 395 14,507 2.72%
  Total   19 272 44 934 41,002 2.28%

 

Shazam 2 T-2 comps

 - Sonic 2 - .67x (3.32m)

 - Fantastic Beasts 3 - .333x (2m)

 - No Time to Die - missed

 - F9 - .413x (2.93m)

 - Ghostbusters - .655x (2.72m)

 - Shang-Chi - .341x (3m)

 - Venom 2 - .353x (4.09m)

 - Black Adam - .384x (2.92m)

 - Suicide Squad - .98x (4.02m)

 - Free Guy - 2.04x (4.48m)

 - Creed III (Total) - .763x (4.16m)

 - Snake Eyes - 3.12x (4.37m)

 - Jungle Cruise - 2.18x (5.89m)

 - Eternals - .237x (2.25m)

 - Snake Eyes - 3.12x (4.37m)

 

Finally fell below Suicide Squad here.  All CBM comps averaged are pointing to 2.34m (and dropping) 

 

John Wick 4 T-9 comps

 - Suicide Squad - 3.31x (13.57m)

 - F9 - 1.211x (8.6m)

 - No Time to Die - 1.985x (10.32m)

 - Top Gun 2 - .451x (6.62m)

 - Jurassic 3 - .402x (7.11m)

 - Scream VI - 1.393x (7.94m)

 - Dune - 1.527x (7.79m)

 - Matrix 4 (OD) - .792x (5.05m)

 - Bullet Train (Total) - 3.43x (15.78m)

 

D&D T-16 comps

 - F9 - .264x (1.87m)

 - Sonic 2 - .462x (2.3m)

 - Shazam 2 - .36x

 - Knock at the Cabin - 1.73x (2.5m)

 - Cocaine Bear - 1.22x (2.44m)

 

Super Mario T-22 comps

 - DBZ - 2.53x (10.89m)

 - Black Widow - .72x (9.53m)

 - Thor 4 - .246x (7.13m)

 - JW3 - .599x (10.61m)

 - Sonic 2 (Total) - 4.115x (25.7m)

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5 hours ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:

I wouldn't pop that champagne just yet. This and Ant-Man 3 feel like flukes to me. The latter didn't work with general audiences while the former was fucked the moment Gunn came aboard.

Agreed. When a big movie that is is generally well received does something like what Ant-Man 3 did then people can pop the champagne. Shazam 1 didn´t really do anything in a time where CBM movies where popping out 1B movies like it was nothing and Ant-Man 2 just got 622 when MCU was it highest. Shazam was always doomed and Ant-Man 3 (domestic at least) had the interest they just dropped the ball so hard.

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5 hours ago, EliasChristensen said:

The numbers for "Shazam 2" look...horrendous. 😵 

 

The whole DCU chaos and the behavior of the leading actor seem to pay off. It would be hilarious if this would become a second Morbius box office wise...😁 

 

I wonder if everything's "gucci" between Zachary Levi and James Gunn when this bombs big time. 🙆‍♂️

 

Shazam really, REALLY needed a $5 PLF TMobile/Atom ticket deal...they don't have one, so no bump for that coming today...

 

St Patrick's Day and March Madness give folks a lot of things to do this weekend other than watch a subpar movie...and then we move to the next movie and this movie gets washed away in 2 weeks...

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At this point in my town here in Sweden Shazam has sold 247 tickets in total for Wed-Sun. To give a picture of just how bad it is, Avatar had sold about 400 presale tickets for last Sunday on Saturday. I expected it to be bad but this is so bad it absolutely have to pick up (not least because the first one actually did decent business here).

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Madison/Milwaukee Area Previews for John Wick 4

 

Really strong start. Theaters really only have 2-3 showtimes and more will get added as we get closer. 

 

  Total Sold Total Seats  Percent Sold              # of           Showings
John Wick 4 479 5,594 8.6% 28
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31 minutes ago, filmlover said:

It would be nuts if this made less than Fantastic Four '15.

Fant4stic:

OW 25.7

Ow adjusted ~33.5

dom 56.1

DOM adjusted ~73.2

Dark Phoenix

OW 32.8

Ow adjusted ~39.4

dom 65.8

DOM adjusted ~79
 

This will presumably be an actually good movie unlike those two and comfortably better legs, but thinking it lands over both dom (though maybe not dp?) and under both dom admits.

 

Morb adjusted OW over 40, total like 77.

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7 minutes ago, Favorite Fearless Legion said:

Fant4stic:

OW 25.7

Ow adjusted ~33.5

dom 56.1

DOM adjusted ~73.2

Dark Phoenix

OW 32.8

Ow adjusted ~39.4

dom 65.8

DOM adjusted ~79
 

This will presumably be an actually good movie unlike those two and comfortably better legs, but thinking it lands over both dom (though maybe not dp?) and under both dom admits.

 

Morb adjusted OW over 40, total like 77.

The fact the embargo is less than 24 hours before its first showtimes leads me to believe they're not expecting reviews to be good for this.

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51 minutes ago, filmlover said:

The fact the embargo is less than 24 hours before its first showtimes leads me to believe they're not expecting reviews to be good for this.

Another sign is the early reactions that have been released being almost entirely from bloggers. Barely any actual ones from critics.

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Shazam 2

Thurs Mar 16 Fri Mar 17 (T-3)

Vancouver and Calgary Canada

 

    # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent
Vancouve Thurs 3 18 78 3829 3907 0.0199
  Fri 3 22 130 4876 5006 0.0259
               
    # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent
Calgary Thurs 3 24 34 4596 4630 0.0073
  Fri 3 22 54 4833 4887 0.0110

 


Antman Quantum comparison for T-3

 

    # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent
Vancouve Thurs 4 29 1414 4448 5862

0.2412

  Fri 3 25 1325 3552 4877 0.2716
               
    # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent
Calgary Thurs 4 30 735 5992 6327 0.1161
  Fri 4 30 640 5935 6575 0.0973

 

 

Canada not seeming to really dig Shazam it seems. 

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Please post more Honor Among Thieves stats. Dead people know Shazam is dead at this point.

I do know that (for a long time anyway) people were rationalizing the late embargo end as "normal for superhero movies" but Shazam 2 feels like it ends right before release. Is this just my mind playing tricks on me? If they had wanted to build buzz they should have done what D&D did.

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7 hours ago, Firepower said:

Guardians underperfomance would be a confirmation. Or not.

Depends on reception. If it isn't received well, then yeah it will underperform. If it is received well and simultaneously underperforms, then the alarms should be sounded at Marvel studios 

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So, my 2 locals set for this Friday.  Yeah, Shazam has a rough cap of Scream's open b/c my locals did not expand their Shazam offerings with 1 local adding zero showings (so it stays 2 screens, 8 showings) and the other adding just 1 small screen showing (for 2+ screens, 9 showings).

 

Smallest supers set, even for DC, that I remember in a long time...

 

As for other movies, Scream holds 2 screens, Creed holds 2 screens at the bigger local but drops to 1 at the smaller, Jesus and Cocaine Bear (and Ant Man) keep a full screen, and Champions and 65 both also keep full screens b/c there's nothing better with just 1 big opener (heck, the theaters continued to hold their single showing of Puss, just b/c they don't have faith in Shazam's family draw)...

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