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[YM!]

45 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:

 

I started to talk about it, but if it were me and trying to "fix" 2023's schedule, I do the following basic changes....

 

- Lionsgate moves John Wick 4 to May 19th

- WB moves Last Train to New York to July 14th

- Universal moves Fast X to June 16th

- Sony moves Spiderverse back to November 3rd

- WB moves The Flash back to October 20th

- WB moves Barbie up to June 23rd

- Universal moves Oppenheimer back to December 22nd

- Paramount moves Mission: Impossible 7 to July 21st

 

That gives you the following....

 

May

Guardians 3

John Wick 4

The Little Mermaid

 

June

Transformers

Fast X

Elemental

Barbie

Indy 5

 

July

Madame Web

Last Train to New York

Mission: Impossible 7

The Marvels

 

August

TMNT

Meg 2: The Trench

Last Voyage of the Dementer

Gran Turismo

Blue Beetle

 

September

The Equalizer 3

A Quiet Place: Day One

 

October

True Love

Paw Patrol 2

The Exorcist

The Flash

 

November

Spiderverse

Trolls 3

Dune II

Hunger Games Prequel

Disney Animation

 

December

Wonka

Ghostbusters: Afterlife Sequel 

Tiger's Apprentace 

The Color Purple

Oppenheimer

Migration

Blade still coming this year though. I also feel Tiger’s Apprentice would move to 2024 to save itself from Migration. Elemental should move if it’s facing Fast X OW too.

 

Something big needs to be in Christmas. Wonka is a wildcard and no one cares enough about Afterlife 2 for it pull in good numbers. The best choices would be Hunger Games, The Marvels or Indy 5.

Edited July 2, 2022 by YourMother

[YM!]

22 minutes ago, CJohn said:

You think a Hunger Games prequel has a higher ceiling than those movies? Lol. 

I mean unless it’s trash it should easily do more than at least Oppenheimer or Ghostbusters.

[CJohn]

13 minutes ago, YourMother said:

I mean unless it’s trash it should easily do more than at least Oppenheimer or Ghostbusters.

How. I mean... how. Even Afterlife/130M feels like a stretch but I can buy it if it is good. But doing Oppenheimer/Dunkirk numbers? Like... how. Am I imagining things or am I the only one living in the timeline where the 4th movie was the worst performer of the series worldwide by a wide margin and that nobody really liked?

Edited July 2, 2022 by CJohn

[El Gato]

30 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:

 

I started to talk about it, but if it were me and trying to "fix" 2023's schedule, I do the following basic changes....

 

- Lionsgate moves John Wick 4 to May 19th

- WB moves Last Train to New York to July 14th

- Universal moves Fast X to June 16th

- Sony moves Spiderverse back to November 3rd

- WB moves The Flash back to October 20th

- WB moves Barbie up to June 23rd

- Universal moves Oppenheimer back to December 22nd

- Paramount moves Mission: Impossible 7 to July 21st

 

That gives you the following....

 

May

Guardians 3

John Wick 4

The Little Mermaid

 

June

Transformers

Fast X

Elemental

Barbie

Indy 5

 

July

Madame Web

Last Train to New York

Mission: Impossible 7

The Marvels

 

August

TMNT

Meg 2: The Trench

Last Voyage of the Dementer

Gran Turismo

Blue Beetle

 

September

The Equalizer 3

A Quiet Place: Day One

 

October

True Love

Paw Patrol 2

The Exorcist

The Flash

 

November

Spiderverse

Trolls 3

Dune II

Hunger Games Prequel

Disney Animation

 

December

Wonka

Ghostbusters: Afterlife Sequel 

Tiger's Apprentace 

The Color Purple

Oppenheimer

Migration

Moving Flash to October would mess up WB’s DC schedule. Have to delay Batgirl and Blue Beetle as well. 
 

I say just get Flash over with already and switch it with Aquaman in June. That way you have: 

 

March: The Flash

April: Last Train to New York 

June: Aquaman 2

July: Barbie

August: Blue Beetle 

September: Meg 2

October: Batgirl 

November: Dune 2 

December: Wonka/ Color Purple 

 

That fixes WB’s schedule, now let’s fix the rest of the slat: 

 

JANUARY

 Kraven The Hunter 

 

FEBRUARY

Dungeons & Dragons

Ant-Man & The Wasp 3

 

MARCH 

Haunted Mansion

The Flash

John Wick 4 

 

APRIL

Super Mario Bros 

Last Train to New York 

The Little Mermaid 

 

MAY

Guardians of the Galaxy 3

Fast X 

 

JUNE

Aquaman 2 

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts 

Across The Spider-Verse 

Indiana Jones 5 

 

JULY 

Madame Web 

Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning 

Barbie

The Marvels 

 

AUGUST

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 

Blue Beetle 

Oppenheimer 

 

SEPTEMBER 

The Meg 2 

A Quiet Place Spin-off 

 

OCTOBER 

Batgirl 

Paw Patrol 

Scream 6

 

NOVEMBER 

Dune 2

The Hunger Games Spin-off 

Trolls 3

 

DECEMBER 

Wonka 

The Color Purple 

Ghostbusters 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MrPink]

I don’t think Oppenheimer is doing Dunkirk numbers. I think Hunger Games will do 150m or so which is roughly 55% of the last film and that’s near the ceiling for Oppenheimer until I see more footage.

 

 

Edited July 2, 2022 by MrPink

[YM!]

If I were to reorganize the 2023 summer to winter slate, I’d do something like this:

 

May

Guardians - 5/5

Fast X - 5/19 (provided it’s ready on time, if not MI: DR PO)

The Little Mermaid - 5/26

 

June

Strays - 6/2

Transformers - 6/2

Elemental - 6/16

Train - 6/23

MI: DR PO - 6/30

July

SpiderVerse - 7/7 or 7/14

Barbie - 7/21

Indy 5 - 7/28

 

August 

Blue Beetle

Voyage

Turismo

TMNT

Meg 2
 

September

The Flash - Labor Day
3qualizer
AQP

Oppenheimer - late September ish
Madame Web

 

October

True Love - 10/6

Exorcist - 10/13

Paw Patrol - 10/13

Blade - 10/20

 

November 

Dune 2 - 11/3

Trolls 3 - 11/3

IF - 11/10

Hunger Games - 11/17

WDAS - Thanksgiving

 

December

The Marvels

Wonka

Ghostbusters

The Color Purple 

Migration

Edited July 2, 2022 by YourMother

[vale9001]

47 minutes ago, eddyxx said:

Wait wait they’re remaking The Color Purple??

 

48 minutes ago, eddyxx said:

Wait wait they’re remaking The Color Purple??

 

 

There is a new trend. Movie versions of Broadway versions of movies lol. 

 

Netflix is releasing Matilda the musical this christmas. And The Colour purple, Mean Girls and Sunset boulevards are in production. 

They all really seem terribile ideas

[YM!]

6 minutes ago, CJohn said:

How. I mean... how. Even Afterlife/130M feels like a stretch but I can buy it if it is good. But doing Oppenheimer/Dunkirk numbers? Like... how. Am I imagining things or am I the only one living in the timeline where the 4th movie was the worst performer of the series worldwide by a wide margin and that nobody really liked?

I’m thinking Beasts 1 numbers for Songbirds, think anywhere between 150m-300m for it and I’d not be surprised.

 

I don’t have Oppenheimer doing Dunkirk numbers, probably more around 150m.

[John Marston]

I believe the new Hunger Games has actual Hunger Games in it. That could help it 

[DAR]

1 hour ago, Eric the Minion said:

They’re adapting the Broadway musical

Broadway Musical?

[Eric Lasagna]

Just now, DAR said:

Broadway Musical?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Color_Purple_(musical)

[ThomasNicole]

If Wonka is at least close to Paddington 2 quality, it doesn´t even need a great OW, legs will compensate and bring those +300M DOM 

 

Hunger Games i think it will suffer lacking the characters that everybody loves, but i think this one actually have the games in it, which could be a huge factor since the lack of them was the very reason why Mockingjays dropped. 

[Cmasterclay]

Hunger Games triggers too many of my skeptical buttons - skeptical of non-Minions spinoffs, skeptical of non-Star Wars prequels, skeptical of movies that came off reviled last chapters ala Matrix, skeptical of young adult movies in the post YA bubble.

 

That Twilight sequel with Battison and Oscar-Nom Stewart gonna do 400m in 2027, though. Twilight, Shrek, and Austin Powers the three nostalgia franchises left I can see being revived with real box office results. Though they're running out of time on the Austin Powers window.

 

Wonka gonna be big league if nothing else competes in December, 100m over both THG prequel and Dune domestically IMO.

[DAR]

3 minutes ago, Eric the Minion said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Color_Purple_(musical)

I remain shocked

[wildphantom]

1 minute ago, Cmasterclay said:

Hunger Games triggers too many of my skeptical buttons - skeptical of non-Minions spinoffs, skeptical of non-Star Wars prequels, skeptical of movies that came off reviled last chapters ala Matrix, skeptical of young adult movies in the post YA bubble.

 

That Twilight sequel with Battison and Oscar-Nom Stewart gonna do 400m in 2027, though. Twilight, Shrek, and Austin Powers the three nostalgia franchises left I can see being revived with real box office results. Though they're running out of time on the Austin Powers window.

 

Wonka gonna be big league if nothing else competes in December, 100m over both THG prequel and Dune domestically IMO.

never mind Austin Powers, I’m still waiting on a third instalment for these two!

[Valonqar]

1 hour ago, EmpireCity said:

 

I started to talk about it, but if it were me and trying to "fix" 2023's schedule, I do the following basic changes....

 

- Lionsgate moves John Wick 4 to May 19th

- WB moves Last Train to New York to July 14th

- Universal moves Fast X to June 16th

- Sony moves Spiderverse back to November 3rd

- WB moves The Flash back to October 20th

- WB moves Barbie up to June 23rd

- Universal moves Oppenheimer back to December 22nd

- Paramount moves Mission: Impossible 7 to July 21st

 

That gives you the following....

 

May

Guardians 3

John Wick 4

The Little Mermaid

 

June

Transformers

Fast X

Elemental

Barbie

Indy 5

 

July

Madame Web

Last Train to New York

Mission: Impossible 7

The Marvels

 

August

TMNT

Meg 2: The Trench

Last Voyage of the Dementer

Gran Turismo

Blue Beetle

 

September

The Equalizer 3

A Quiet Place: Day One

 

October

True Love

Paw Patrol 2

The Exorcist

The Flash

 

November

Spiderverse

Trolls 3

Dune II

Hunger Games Prequel

Disney Animation

 

December

Wonka

Ghostbusters: Afterlife Sequel 

Tiger's Apprentace 

The Color Purple

Oppenheimer

Migration

 

That's so much better! More space and good balance of counterprogramming so movies with overlapping audience don't canibalize each other. 

Edited July 2, 2022 by Valonqar

[Xavier]

3 hours ago, Gopher said:

 

Likely huge hype for Ford's last performance as Indy, likely strong reviews (Mangold is arguably more dialed into what makes these big popcorn movies work right now than Spielberg has been over the past decade), likely riding the wave of legacy sequels for old people (Crystal Skull funny enough came well before this wave), likely the right amount of time after Crystal Skull so that audiences don't have the taste of that one in their mouths, likely the entire weight of the Disney marketing machine behind it for the first time... and 330 would be a 20% drop in admissions from Crystal Skull. So I think it can do it!

Aaaaand time travel, so likely mind blowing deaging with a young Harrison Ford on the big screen.

[Cmasterclay]

Indiana Jones 5 is going to be good because the last one got so much public shit and there's way too many proud and smart people involved in this one to let that happen again. It's a virtual lock for quality, IMO.

[cannastop]

11 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:

If Wonka is at least close to Paddington 2 quality

So IF Wonka gets 99% on Rottentomatoes...

 

IDK doesn't seem like much of a guarantee.

[cannastop]

Just now, Cmasterclay said:

Indiana Jones 5 is going to be good because the last one got so much public shit and there's way too many proud and smart people involved in this one to let that happen again. It's a virtual lock for quality, IMO.

They said the same about Star Wars IX.