Weekend Thread | Actuals: Smile 22.6, DWD 6.85, TWK 6.8, Avatar 5, Bros 4.8

[CJohn]

8.2 + 6.3 + 4.2 = 18.7M

 

It will likely end at 19M or so, right around the same as The Woman King and DWD.

 

Lyle Lyle Crocodile is next for the 19M OW. Halloween Flops coming right after it.

 

 

Legs for TWK have been quite disappointing. I was hoping for a 70M+ total. It needs all the money it can get from the DOM market. The movie wasn't cheap with its 50M budget.

Edited October 1, 2022 by CJohn

[Flopped]

18 minutes ago, CJohn said:

8.2 + 6.3 + 4.2 = 18.7M

 

It will likely end at 19M or so, right around the same as The Woman King and DWD.

 

Lyle Lyle Crocodile is next for the 19M OW. Halloween Flops coming right after it.

 

 

Legs for TWK have been quite disappointing. I was hoping for a 70M+ total. It needs all the money it can get from the DOM market. The movie wasn't cheap with its 50M budget.

Are you basing the 6.3 on data you have or calculations you've done or just an educated guess? 

[CJohn]

1 minute ago, Flopped said:

Are you basing the 6.3 on data you have or calculations you've done or just an educated guess? 

Educated guess.

[Legion Again]

5 hours ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

There have been successful romcoms across the MPAA spectrum

Suddenly obsessed with these G rated romcoms

[Flopped]

5 hours ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

There have been successful romcoms across the MPAA spectrum (okay, maybe not NC-17).

 

 

 

Yes - Pretty Woman made almost 500M WW with an R rating...in 1990. That's mind boggling. 

When Harry Met Sally was R. 

 

 

[Legion Again]

Saturday should be more ~7M I think

[Eric the Ape]

7 minutes ago, Legion By Night said:

Suddenly obsessed with these G rated romcoms

Wow, me too.

 

[ringedmortality]

What about some NC-17 romcom love

[eddyxx]

Smile was great. Is horror the only genre that can produce original films with no star power that appeal to the general audience?

Edited October 1, 2022 by eddyxx

[filmlover]

3 hours ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

Awards prospects always help, but a comedy/drama/romance can succeed without necessarily having great reviews. The presence of Sally Field makes me think of Steel Magnolias, which did get an Oscar nomination, but its critical reception was not great at the time. Not to say that Spoiler Alert will do that well, as any sort of low-key movie has an uphill battle in today's theatrical climate.

 

*

 

Oscar has gone a different way in recent years, but just saying, Top Gun and its sequel are not totally different from the first Best Picture winner, Wings:

 

 

Like, I doubt it does great business or anything, but wouldn't be surprised if it matches or exceeds the low teens total Bros looks headed for since it has arguably more star power and Focus will likely give it a decent marketing push as one of the few movies that will exist as a non-Avatar option out there this Christmas.

[Legion Again]

6 hours ago, Eric Smiley said:

Deadline top 10

 

 

I know Woman King is doing objectively good and fine, but it feels like its holds are just kinda standard for a well-reviewed awards contender and not really as exciting as the A+ Cinemascore once indicated. Am I expecting too much maybe?

6.5M wknd for 46.2ish cume, 10M trailing 7D. Add 15-20ish for ~65. ~2.7x True OWeek multi.

 

Weekdays were a smidge weakside, otherwise right on target normal behavior.

 

6 hours ago, ringedmortality said:

 

The Cinemascore was probably inflated due to the skewed demos of the opening weekend. It plays well in that demo but probably not outside of it.

 

Also is it really an awards contender?

 

6 hours ago, Valonqar said:

 

Maybe it didn't crossover? It got A+ from its target audience (black women) but perhaps it isn't attracting other demos. WOM doesn't have influence on audience that has no interest in a movie premise. 

 

hs ha typed what @ringedmortality said but he said it better. 

And these are true too — same dynamic Harriet and Simon.

[Goldenhour36]

51 minutes ago, eddyxx said:

Smile was great. Is horror the only genre that can produce original films with no star power that appeal to the general audience?

Faith Based? Animation? I think these are the other genres that don't need no star.

[BoxOfficeFangrl]

3 hours ago, Legion By Night said:

Suddenly obsessed with these G rated romcoms

I didn't say there are a ton of live-action ones, maybe these are more "family movies with romance" but they are comedic, too, so:

 

The Princess Diaries franchise

The Santa Clause 2

 

 

More of a romantic subplot: 101 Dalmatians, Hannah Montana: The Movie, Herbie: Fully Loaded

 

 

Classic musicals with romcom leanings under the G rating: My Fair Lady, Funny Girl, Mary Poppins (most of these would be PG by modern standards).

 

 

Hallmark is television, but most of their romances are TV-G, here are the sorts of things Luke Macfarlane was starring in before now:

 

 

Hallmark movies have gay couples now, they're still TV-G:

 

 

Obviously, there's a huge range between this sort of movie and Bros.

 

 

 

Edited October 2, 2022 by BoxOfficeFangrl

[Ipickthiswhiterose]

2 hours ago, eddyxx said:

Smile was great. Is horror the only genre that can produce original films with no star power that appeal to the general audience?

 

To a degree, but it is also mopping up the rough times other genres are having. Horrors are replacing the mid budget movie gaps across the board.

 

This is because horrors unique diversity. Just in this last bunch of hits:

 

The Invitation - Spoiler proof, just there for atmosphere and mood, Romantic, female driven, sexy people.

 

Barbarian - Mysterious, enigmatic, gritty, character driven

 

 Black Phone - Narrative driven, star power, escape movie, sibling drama.

 

Smile - Jump scare filled, thematic, semiotics a go go, appeal to affect, beats like music, regularly scheduled adrenaline hits, scares-per-minute quota.

 

 

The Invitation has the shape and rhythm of a RomCom

Barbarian has the shape and rhythm of a mystery

Black Phone has the shape and rhythm of an action procedural 

Smile has the shape and rhythm of a comedy

 

Its all those missing midrange genres! Heck, Peele threw in a Western for good measure and Halloween and Scream are your smaller franchise blockbusters.

 

Horror's a collection of dipping sauces, not a true genre. Makes it robust and resilient.

[Blankments]

@WrathOfHan @Eric Smiley it's spooky season!

 

16x:

 

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever: The Conjuring 2 Round 2, Wrath of Man, Bullet Train Dolby, Beast Dolby, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Round 4 IMAX, Top Gun: Maverick Round 3 IMAX, Three Thousand Years of Longing Dolby, Orphan: First Kill, Bodies Bodies Bodies, Spider-Man: No Way Home Round 3 Dolby, Jaws Round 2 IMAX, Barbarian Dolby, The Woman King Dolby, Confess, Fletch, Moonage Daydream IMAX, Don’t Worry Darling Dolby

 

15x:

 

Avatar: The Way of Water: Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness 35mm, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness Round 2 IMAX, Top Gun: Maverick Dolby, The Bob’s Burgers Movie, Lightyear Dolby, Lightyear Round 2, Thor: Love and Thunder Dolby, Minions: The Rise of Gru, Thor: Love and Thunder Round 2, E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial Round 2 IMAX, Top Gun: Maverick Round 3 IMAX, Jaws Round 2 IMAX, Newsies, Selena, Avatar Round 2 Dolby 3D

 

13x:

 

Smile: Top Gun: Maverick Dolby, Top Gun: Maverick Round 2, Thor: Love and Thunder Round 2 IMAX, Nope Dolby, The Black Phone, Bullet Train Dolby, Beast Dolby, Three Thousand Years of Longing Dolby, Orphan: First Kill, Bodies Bodies Bodies, Barbarian Dolby, Confess, Fletch, Pearl

 

11x:

 

Black Adam: Jurassic World Dominion IMAX, Elvis Dolby, Thor: Love and Thunder Dolby, Thor: Love and Thunder Round 2 IMAX, Nope Round 2 IMAX, Beast Dolby, Spider-Man: No Way Home Round 3 Dolby, The Woman King Dolby, Moonage Daydream IMAX, Don't Worry Darling Dolby, Avatar Round 2 Dolby 3D

 

8x:

 

Strange World: Lightyear Dolby, Lightyear Round 2, Thor: Love and Thunder Dolby, Minions: The Rise of Gru, Thor: Love and Thunder Round 2 IMAX, E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial Round 2 IMAX, Newsies, Avatar Round 2 Dolby 3D

The Menu: Benediction, Nope Dolby, Beast Dolby, Bodies Bodies Bodies, Barbarian Dolby, The Woman King Dolby, Don’t Worry Darling Dolby, Avatar Round 2 Dolby 3D

 

6x:

 

The Woman King: Nope Dolby, Bullet Train Dolby, Three Thousand Years of Longing Dolby, Hallelujah: Leonard Cohen, A Journey, A Song, Spider-Man: Homecoming Round 3 Dolby, Jaws Round 2 IMAX

Don’t Worry Darling: Elvis Dolby, Nope Dolby, The Black Phone, Bullet Train Dolby, Bodies Bodies Bodies, Barbarian Dolby

Moonage Daydream: Top Gun: Maverick Round 3 IMAX, Hallelujah: Leonard Cohen, A Journey, A Song, Bodies Bodies Bodies, Jaws Round 2 IMAX, Three Colors: Blue 4K, Infernal Affairs 4K

Lyle Lyle Crocodile: Minions: The Rise of Gru, DC League of Super-Pets, E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial Round 2 IMAX, Spider-Man: No Way Home Round 3 Dolby, Selena, Avatar Round 2 Dolby 3D

 

5x:

 

Puss in Boots: The Last Wish: The Bad Guys, Lightyear Round 2, Minions: The Rise of Gru, E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial Round 2 IMAX, Spider-Man: No Way Home Round 3

Oppenheimer: Nope Dolby, The Black Phone, Nope Round 2 IMAX, Bullet Train Dolby, Jaws Round 2 IMAX

Amsterdam: Thor: Love and Thunder Dolby, Thor: Love and Thunder Round 2 IMAX, Three Thousand Years of Longing Dolby, Barbarian Dolby, Confess, Fletch

Ticket to Paradise: Minions: The Rise of Gru, E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial Round 2 IMAX, Beast Dolby, Jaws Round 2 IMAX, Selena

Till: Nope Dolby, Bullet Train Dolby, Three Thousand Years of Longing Dolby, Hallelujah: Leonard Cohen, A Journey, A Song, Don’t Worry Darling Dolby

Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves: Top Gun: Maverick Round 3 IMAX, Orphan: First Kill, Spider-Man: No Way Home Round 3 Dolby, Confess, Fletch, Avatar Round 2 Dolby

 

4x:

 

Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse: Sing 2 Dolby, Belle Round 2, Morbius Dolby, Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Dolby

Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning Part One: Top Gun: Maverick Dolby, Jurassic World Dominion IMAX, Top Gun: Maverick Round 2, Elvis Dolby

Bros: Beast Dolby, Three Thousand Years of Longing Dolby, Bodies Bodies Bodies, Moonage Daydream IMAX

Devotion: Top Gun: Maverick Dolby, The Woman King Dolby, Confess, Fletch, Moonage Daydream IMAX

 

 

3x:

 

Halloween Ends: Nope Dolby, Nope Round 2 IMAX, Orphan: First Kill
Barbarian: The Black Phone, Beast Dolby, Orphan: First Kill
Pearl: Three Thousand Years of Longing Dolby, Orphan: First Kill, Bodies Bodies Bodies
Tár: The Woman King Dolby, Selena, Pearl

2x:

The Comeback Trail: Tenet Round 3 IMAX, Honest Thief Dolby
The Marvels: The Conjuring 2 Round 2, Wrath of Man
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania: The Conjuring 2 Round 2, Wrath of Man
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3: The Conjuring 2 Round 2, Wrath of Man
Fantastic Four: The Conjuring 2 Round 2, Wrath of Man
I Wanna Dance with Somebody: The Woman King Dolby, Selena
Shazam! Fury of the Gods: DC League of Super-Pets, Don't Worry Darling Dolby
Triangle of Sadness: Moonage Daydream IMAX, Don’t Worry Darling Dolby

1x:

The Devil’s Light: Nightmare Alley
Brahmāstra Part One: Shiva: RRR
Adhira: RRR
The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes: Lightyear Dolby
God’s Country: Orphan: First Kill
Hockeyland: Hallelujah: Leonard Cohen, A Journey, A Song
Salvatore: Shoemaker of Dreams: Hallelujah: Leonard Cohen, A Journey, A Song
The Return of Tanya Tucker: Featuring Brandi Carlile: Hallelujah: Leonard Cohen, A Journey, A Song
Medieval: Bodies Bodies Bodies
The Story of Film: A New Generation: I Know Where I’m Going! 4K
Pinocchio: Newsies
She Said: The Woman King Dolby
Cuando Sea Joven: Confess, Fletch
Decision to Leave: Infernal Affairs 4K
Avatar Remastered: Moonage Daydream IMAX
Knock at the Cabin: Don’t Worry Darling Dolby
Babylon: Don’t Worry Darling Dolby
The Fabelmans: Avatar Round 2 Dolby 3D
The Little Mermaid: Avatar Round 2 Dolby 3D
The Inspection: Pearl

 

Edited October 2, 2022 by Blankments

[Eric the Ape]

https://deadline.com/2022/10/box-office-smile-dont-worry-darling-harry-styles-1235131625/

 

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SATURDAY PM: Unlike other genre films during this lackluster time at the box office, Paramount’s Smile isn’t even beginning to frown at the weekend box office. Deadline hears the Parker Finn directed and written horror pic had a strong Saturday of $7.4M, -10% from Friday+preview’s $8.2M, which will get Smile to a $20M opening. The pic cost a reported $17M before P&A.

 

[Legion Again]

Yep. Was gonna be hard to miss 20 from that Fri, ests we're being pretty silly.

 

Rip the 19 streak though, sad

[Krissykins]

8 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Saturday Harkins

 

Smile - 13956/62567 (235 showings) $152,326

 

$8M approx SAT.

Deadline with $7.4m and Charlie with $8m. 
 

Either way, a great Saturday and $20m+ opening for Smile. 

[Ipickthiswhiterose]

My theatre definitely loved Smile here in the UK yesterday - it's opening opposite Mrs Harris which, naturally, is a bigger deal here than it was in North America.

 

It is a very mainstream friendly blending of the Babadook representational format with the Conjuring jump-scares-and-affect-first format - clearly while it's the vision of one guy, there have been two very opposing forces working on it who had slightly different visions of what the film should be, which can often work against a movie but in this case seems to have worked for it. The themes are robust and present but when it's a matter of choice between that and horror then it always chooses horror which is to my personal chagrin but probably helps it play better to wider audiences. The horror community seem to already be bought in with the academic wing picking up the themes (it's already being primed for discussion in upcoming fora) and the enthusiast wing picking up the iconography and the scares.

 

Hilarious and maddening that horror is so heterogenous, personalised, subject to negative cultural perceptions, and prone to foot-shooting by its own 'enthusiasts' that almost everything can come together like this and it still just turns into a cinemascore of B- that would sink a blockbuster.

 

If the overperforming equivalents of Smile and Barbarian were to come along in other genres we'd be talking about Oscars for them - heck if they were biopics Oscar nominations would be absolutely locked in for the leads. Horror is allowed the platform and the money but it's still only very rarely allowed the light of acclaim and then only under very specific circumstances.

[Ipickthiswhiterose]

$4200 per theatre average for Ponniyin Selvan, while Brahmastra still has per theatre averages higher than any film outside the Top 10 plus higher than Bullet Train and DC Superpets which are in x8 more theatres.

 

Time to give Indan movies wider releases? Or are we not at that point yet and the city bases are being covered.

 

Also coming from the personal experience of having normalised going to the bigger Indian movies as matter of course.