4815162342 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I find it kinda odd that Triangle got Picture, Director, and Original Screenplay but couldn't get a coattail nomination for DeLeon after all the various precursors she got some heat with 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxOfficeZ Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I'm baffled that The Batman or Top Gun: Maverick didn't get nominated for cinematography. Also happy to see Hsu get the nom. Good year for Irish cinema too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim22 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 28 minutes ago, 4815162342 said: I find it kinda odd that Triangle got Picture, Director, and Original Screenplay but couldn't get a coattail nomination for DeLeon after all the various precursors she got some heat with The power of social media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnokesLegs Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, grim22 said: The power of social media When I first noticed this I was a bit irritated by it because it was so blatant and cringeworthy, but good for her, she’s just proved what a waste of time and money it is mounting a studio backed awards campaign when copypasta on Twitter works just as well. Edited January 25, 2023 by SnokesLegs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Alfred Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 It's terrific that her peers stood up for her, it's by far the best performance of the year. She should be winning awards, not scraping for nomination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share Posted January 25, 2023 Love Andrea Riseborough but I want her to go all the way and win without even seeing her movie just for the insanity of it all. The fact she pulled off the nomination already makes this one for the books. You just know Jennifer Aniston is wondering how this worked while her similar campaign for Cake flopped right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 i actually watched To Leslie last night. it's pretty boring, she's pretty good. it's a generic dealing with addiction indie drama I don't even think it's one of her best performances, but still happy she got the nod because she has been a fav of mine for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipDerby Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I'm hoping so bad for a Fraser win in Best Actor. Nothing I want more in 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxOfficeFangrl Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 9 hours ago, SnokesLegs said: When I first noticed this I was a bit irritated by it because it was so blatant and cringeworthy, but good for her, she’s just proved what a waste of time and money it is mounting a studio backed awards campaign when copypasta on Twitter works just as well. Next year, everyone will try this, which will dilute the effectiveness. Also, this sort of strategy favors actors with connections/powerful agencies over newbies or people not in The Club. With the AMPAS diversity efforts in recent years, this result is not a good look. Did you see Goop and Courteney Cox trying to copy/paste a nom for Tang Wei, or Kate Winslet hosting screenings for Nicole Beharie a couple years back? We all know who's going to benefit the most from these sorts of "grassroots" and "organic" awards campaigns. I wonder if the Academy will say anything or change the nominating process to blunt these sorts of efforts for next year. Positive comments about performances on social media, that's happened before, but this was something else. Frances Fisher especially took it too far IMO. She was literally posting on Instagram that Danielle and Viola (among others) were already locked for the nomination so this is how many first place votes Riseborough needed to get in. There's a difference between, "Andrea was great, remember her when you vote!" and openly saying, "Andrea was great, these are her competitors that you don't have to worry about voting for, here's the specific way you should vote instead." It's openly political in a way that AMPAS probably doesn't like; they have discouraged campaigning that mentions the competition before. The nominating process uses preferential rankings in the major categories, getting rid of that could combat some of the backdoor strategizing. At the win stage it's different, in most categories you just vote for one winner,. though Picture is still ranked choice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 10 hours ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said: Next year, everyone will try this, which will dilute the effectiveness. Also, this sort of strategy favors actors with connections/powerful agencies over newbies or people not in The Club. With the AMPAS diversity efforts in recent years, this result is not a good look. Did you see Goop and Courteney Cox trying to copy/paste a nom for Tang Wei, or Kate Winslet hosting screenings for Nicole Beharie a couple years back? We all know who's going to benefit the most from these sorts of "grassroots" and "organic" awards campaigns. I wonder if the Academy will say anything or change the nominating process to blunt these sorts of efforts for next year. Positive comments about performances on social media, that's happened before, but this was something else. Frances Fisher especially took it too far IMO. She was literally posting on Instagram that Danielle and Viola (among others) were already locked for the nomination so this is how many first place votes Riseborough needed to get in. There's a difference between, "Andrea was great, remember her when you vote!" and openly saying, "Andrea was great, these are her competitors that you don't have to worry about voting for, here's the specific way you should vote instead." It's openly political in a way that AMPAS probably doesn't like; they have discouraged campaigning that mentions the competition before. The nominating process uses preferential rankings in the major categories, getting rid of that could combat some of the backdoor strategizing. At the win stage it's different, in most categories you just vote for one winner,. though Picture is still ranked choice Who would've thought Frances Fisher, of all people, would end up being the true winner of this awards season lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I think the noms this year were pretty solid compared to lately. but I haven't seen them all. I personally thought Naomi Ackie In I wanna Dance with Somebody and Diego Calva in Babylon were fantastic. but they were never really in serious talks for the awards. Also were young and newbies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) Speaking of young and newbies, it feels like the new generation of 20-something actors are kind of slaying right now when forever it seemed like it was the only 20-something actresses being embraced by the Academy. 90s babies Dev Patel, Lucas Hedges, Timothee Chalamet, LaKeith Stanfield, Kodi Smit-McPhee, and Paul Mescal all nominated before turning 30 (add in fellow 90s babies Austin Butler, 31, and Barry Keoghan, 30, and it's even more impressive). Hard to tell if for the longest time either the talent wasn't there or if the roles for that demo just weren't there to begin with. Probably both. Edited January 26, 2023 by filmlover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BoxOfficeFangrl Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 12 hours ago, filmlover said: Who would've thought Frances Fisher, of all people, would end up being the true winner of this awards season lmao. Riseborough better thank her if she wins lol, girlfriend posted the math and everything. It would be funny Frances Fisher's antics leads to Oscar voting rule changes to make another To Leslie stunt harder to pull off. They can have a BAFTA-esque jury system or let some members from other branches vote at the nomination stage, except...the non-branch members are selected at random, only knowing when they go to their ballots. That way, campaigning within the Acting, Music, Directing, etc. branch would only help so much in making the final cut. You'd probably get less Diane Warren name check nominations and maybe actors-turned-directors would have a chance again (without having to be gray-haired/seasoned first). 3 hours ago, filmlover said: Speaking of young and newbies, it feels like the new generation of 20-something actors are kind of slaying right now when forever it seemed like it was the only 20-something actresses being embraced by the Academy. 90s babies Dev Patel, Lucas Hedges, Timothee Chalamet, LaKeith Stanfield, Kodi Smit-McPhee, and Paul Mescal all nominated before turning 30 (add in fellow 90s babies Austin Butler, 31, and Barry Keoghan, 30, and it's even more impressive). Hard to tell if for the longest time either the talent wasn't there or if the roles for that demo just weren't there to begin with. Probably both. It's pretty normal for men to get nominated for Oscars later in their careers than women, Adrien Brody is the youngest Best Actor winner ever at 29 and the tenth youngest Best Actress winner is 26. The Supporting categories give more room to younger performers but the list of youngest nominees ever skews younger for Supporting Actress vs Supporting Actor. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_and_youngest_Academy_Award_winners_and_nominees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 it's crazy that paul mescal is younger than timothee chalamet. he can convincingly play the dad of a preteen girl and timmy still plays like 15 year olds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) The Oscar nomination this year also follow last year's pattern, where I don't really feel like the members were just watching 10 films and nominate them in every categories. But I do hope they can try to avoid nominate two actor or actress from the same film in the supporting category. That look lazy to me and They have been doing that since 90th Oscar. 90th : Three billboard 91st: The Favourite 92nd : The Irishman 93rd: Judas and the Black Messiah 94th: The power of the dog 95th: Banshess and EEAO Edited January 26, 2023 by titanic2187 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Alfred Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) Just saw THE FABELMANS, beautiful film. Spielberg should win best directior. The Hirch nomination is absolute joke. He had one scene, just cameo, which wasn't even the best in the film. That was David Lynch. Edited January 26, 2023 by The Dark Alfred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 10:10 AM, BadOlCatSylvester said: Like clockwork. The Disney Animation brand is like catnip for the Academy voters. Spider-Verse got lucky both Incredibles 2 and Ralph 2 were polarizing. Turning Red is universally loved, so it'll unfortunately get the automatic win. It is what it is. IDK I think Pinocchio really does have a strong chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 4 hours ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said: You'd probably get less Diane Warren name check nominations Funnily enough, I just listened to the song. What in the "Alone Yet Not Alone" nonsense is this lmaaaooooo. That song she's done for 80 for Brady is awful too despite all the legends singing it. I was hoping that after they gave her an honorary Oscar we would be done with her catapulting these lame songs from movies that barely have a Wikipedia page (no, seriously - just look at it lololol: Tell It Like a Woman - Wikipedia) into becoming Oscar-nominated films but yet here we are still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 59 minutes ago, filmlover said: Funnily enough, I just listened to the song. What in the "Alone Yet Not Alone" nonsense is this lmaaaooooo. That song she's done for 80 for Brady is awful too despite all the legends singing it. I was hoping that after they gave her an honorary Oscar we would be done with her catapulting these lame songs from movies that barely have a Wikipedia page (no, seriously - just look at it lololol: Tell It Like a Woman - Wikipedia) into becoming Oscar-nominated films but yet here we are still. I'm really wondering if this can get disqualified like that song lol. When the hell was the one week qualifying run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...