The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[charlie Jatinder]

5 hours ago, vafrow said:

0.770x KFP4 for $2.9M

Oh BTW. KFP4 overindexed heavily in Canada. Its previews in Canada were like $7M ratio.

[abracadabra1998]

Minnesota Opening Day:

 

Despicable Me 4 (T-25):

Day: T-25	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 24 theaters	298	62	62	48842	0.13

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		34	34	54.84
MTC1:		43	43	69.35
Other chains:		19	19	30.65

 

Comps:

0.73x Inside Out 2: ???

1.06x Kung Fu Panda 4: $4.04 Million (17 theaters)

 

Holy number of showings/seats! Pretty good start. I will be updating this on Wednesdays and Saturdays, but I'll be out of town later in the week, so my next update will be at T-14. 

[Maaatt]

2 hours ago, vafrow said:

 

They shouldn't be taken too seriously. But, I wanted them in there because there's a wide chasm between the performance of kids movies in my market.

 

KFP4 seems to have really overperformed, so I didn't want that being the only kids movie comparison. But If and Garfield had horrible performances. Truth is somewhere in between most likely.

 

Honestly, I'm more watching to see if it's maintaining a decent growth rate, which it is.

i have to say your market has been an interesting one, if often frustrating/depressing recently (i mean there’s been some depressing numbers the last 2 months across the board but in your market in particular it feels like). 

[vafrow]

1 hour ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Oh BTW. KFP4 overindexed heavily in Canada. Its previews in Canada were like $7M ratio.

 

That makes sense.

 

KFP4 was comping low $6M for me, but I was using comps tjat likely underestimated walk up effects, so $7M makes sense.

[Flip]

3 hours ago, Unfitclock said:

For anybody looking how is the bikeriders doing?

Bad. It’s selling worse than the watchers was, but maybe it will grow later 

[vafrow]

2 hours ago, Maaatt said:

i have to say your market has been an interesting one, if often frustrating/depressing recently (i mean there’s been some depressing numbers the last 2 months across the board but in your market in particular it feels like). 

 

My market is feast or famine it seems. I've come to grips that it's value as a predictive market isnt the highest, but it contributes to the overall picture. And sometimes the variance from standard tells it's own story.

 

I have a smaller sample. Plus, Canadian market just reacts differently. And being a GTA suburb, it's prone to unique demographic oddities.

 

 

[Tinalera]

Inside Out 2

Thurs June 14 Fri June 15 (T-6)

Toronto and Montreal Canada

 

		# theatre	#show	Seats Sold	Seats Rem	Ttl seat	Percent
Toronto	Thurs	4	31	193	5217	8225	0.02346
	Fri	4	29	293	6958	7251	0.04040
		# theatre	#show	Seats Sold	Seats Rem	Ttl seat	Percent
Montreal	Thurs	1	9	94	2401	2495	0.0376
	Fri	1	11	85	3197	3282	0.0258

 

Montreal area only having 1 theatre for Presales so far......thats interesting.

 

[Tinalera]

2 hours ago, Maaatt said:

i have to say your market has been an interesting one, if often frustrating/depressing recently (i mean there’s been some depressing numbers the last 2 months across the board but in your market in particular it feels like). 

Backing up @vafrow, yea Canadian is really its own beast. Montreal (just montreal) has 1 theatre doing presales for Inside Out 2...Im used to seeing 2-3 (my usual amount if 4) but 1? For both days, that's even odder.

 

I have noticed Quebec market on its own can sometimes have different jives from other parts of Canada in its own right. 

 

What can I say, its weird up here

[TheFlatLannister]

23 hours ago, TheFlatLannister said:

FLORIDA 

 

Inside Out 2

 

T-6

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
685	5579	136510	4.1%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

584

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

COMPS

T-6

(3.602x) of Kung Fu panda 4 $13.69M

(6.276x) of Garfield $11.92M

Comps average: $12.81M

 

Even though this will overindex in Florida, this is still accelerating at an excellent pace. Super strong final week is incoming

FLORIDA 

 

Inside Out 2

 

T-5

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
685	5881	136510	4.3%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

302

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

COMPS

T-5

(3.630x) of Kung Fu panda 4 $13.79M

(6.434x) of Garfield $12.23M

Comps average: $13.01M

 

This is heading over $10M previews if I had to guess 

[HummingLemon496]

So IO2 should be doing $100M, right?

[cannastop]

8 minutes ago, HummingLemon496 said:

So IO2 should be doing $100M, right?

yeah generally 10x the Thursday previews is what the OW is. Elemental had a 12x from previews, for instance.

[John Marston]

Twisters is going to be hit hard by Deadpool & Wolverine. Not just second weekend but opening weekend as well with many people feeling they can just save their money for the big event the next weekend. Saying it wasn’t going to hurt it was pure cope.

[AnthonyJPHer]

16 minutes ago, HummingLemon496 said:

So IO2 should be doing $100M, right?

At this point most likely, but keep your expectations in check. It’s still too early to be certain.

[misterpepp]

Kinds of Kindness on sale June 10

[M37]

2 hours ago, HummingLemon496 said:

So IO2 should be doing $100M, right?

A case can be made, but fwiw I’m not buying it.
 

Don’t think we’re in full adult-heavy Pixar (Lightyear, Dory, TS4) territory, or even having quite the hype and early pre-sales of even LA Little Mermaid, but do think IO2 is going to shade closer to that type of pattern than the standard animation flicks that most are using to comp. (Wonka might actually prove the be closest appropriation). Meaning the final week ramp up and walk-ups won’t be nearly as explosive - in terms of growth rate - as a KFP4 or even Garfield 

 

Something like $8M Thursday & $80M OW seems to me to be a good target (which is up from what I would have said a week ago, when it was more in $70-$80M range) 

 

 

Edited June 9 by M37

[charlie Jatinder]

2 hours ago, HummingLemon496 said:

So IO2 should be doing $100M, right?

how about more 🙂

[Speedorito]

11 minutes ago, M37 said:

Something like $8M Thursday & $80M OW seems to me to be a good target (which is up from what I would have said a week ago, when it was more in $70-$80M range) 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

So IO2 should be doing $100M, right?

 

how about more 🙂

Ooh a showdown

[YM!]

Big update coming

[dallas]

Inside Out 2

 

Thursday Previews

 

T-5

Tickets Sold: 144 (+31)

Growth: 27.4%

% PLF: 33.3%

4 theaters/34 showtimes

 

Comps:

(8.000x) of Migration - $12M

(3.130x) of Kung Fu Panda 4 - $11.89M

COMPS AVG - $11.95M

 

Still selling very well. I'd wager this opens over $100M at this point. 

[emoviefan]

27 minutes ago, Speedorito said:

 

Ooh a showdown

Really hope it's Charlie because this place will not be pleasant next weekend if not.