THE UNMARVELOUS WEEKEND THREAD | FEATURING MELTDOWNS, ARMCHAIR ANALYSIS, AND SEXISM

[Squire]

1 hour ago, Hatebox said:

scorcese was right: audiences have been conditioned to see films as content, and there’s a price to be paid for that when they also get content at home.

What does this even mean?

[Issac Newton]

The Marvel

 

$21.5M Friday (i.p $6.6M)

 

 

 

Edited November 11, 2023 by Issac Newton

[filmlover]

26 minutes ago, John Marston said:

Is 50m actually feasible or highballing?

It is, but barely. Depends on the drops today and tomorrow.

[TheFlatLannister]

10 hours ago, THUNDER BIRD said:

Alice Through The Looking Glass can now rest easy. Its watch has ended.

[Jonwo]

10 minutes ago, filmnerdjamie said:

 

Iger is too big of a PR pussy to actually make a tough, knowingly unpopular decision like that. He'd be too scared of "the optics."

 

And Disney is in quite a bit of debt themselves.

All big companies have debt. Amazon and Comcast's debt is double that of WBD and Disney.

[TheFlatLannister]

1 hour ago, Boxofficerules said:

What would Marvel do if Deadpool 3 is their biggest hit by far considering it's rated R.

It is going to be their biggest hit. Cap 4, thunderbolts, and all the others are going to tank 

[Water Bottle]

12 minutes ago, filmnerdjamie said:

And Disney is in quite a bit of debt themselves.

 

Almost every company is in debt. Especially movie studios. Just because you have debt doesn't mean jack shit.

[Issac Newton]

 

 

[MisterLibby]

16 minutes ago, Squire said:

What does this even mean?

It means it sets a dangerous precedent when we stop treating films as special and start treating them like television (or worse)

Edited November 11, 2023 by MisterLibby

[Scubasteve716]

Not seeing it get $50 - yikes. Something like $16 today $12 tomorrow seems generous 

[Jonwo]

2 minutes ago, Water Bottle said:

 

Almost every company is in debt. Especially movie studios. Just because you have debt doesn't mean jack shit.

Debt is only a problem if you can't pay it off. 

 

 

[budice]

ERC has $21M even. $45M-$50M weekend.

 

 

[The GOAT]

33 minutes ago, reddevil19 said:

Yes, cause that worked out well for MI7...or pretty much every other summer release. This is a disaster now and if it had stayed in July it would have been apocalyptically bad.

Made $550 million. I don’t know what you’re talking about

[Hatebox]

29 minutes ago, Squire said:

What does this even mean?

It means if Disney, Netflix et al treat movies as filler thumbnails for their landing pages with no qualitative difference to tv box sets then no shit people stop thinking cinema is special. And I don’t blame them. Convenience is nice!

 

FWIW I think the genie’s out of the box forever now. If a generation sees streaming platforms as the primary vehicle for movie consumption then I don’t see how you win them back. A barbenheimer every few years won’t cut it. 
 

 

Edited November 11, 2023 by Hatebox

[filmlover]

Just now, Hatebox said:

FWIW I think the genie’s out of the box forever now. If a generation sees streaming platforms as the primary vehicle for movie consumption then I don’t see how you win them back. 

The number of breakout smashes we've seen this year (Mario, Barbie/Oppenheimer, Taylor Swift, FNAF) indicate there is still very much a demand for movie theaters. It clearly takes extra effort to get people excited anymore. Mid movies without discernable concepts clearly just aren't going to cut it when it comes to automatically bring out the masses (at least at the budgets a lot of these movies carry) anymore.

[Skim Beeble]

well, at least it'll probably make it to $100m DOM i guess. small victories?

[TRISTAN]

6 minutes ago, The GOAT said:

Made $550 million. I don’t know what you’re talking about

MI7 is a huge huge disappointment at the box office. Ask anyone in Paramount and Skydance.

[Hatebox]

2 minutes ago, filmlover said:

The number of breakout smashes we've seen this year (Mario, Barbie/Oppenheimer, Taylor Swift, FNAF) indicate there is still very much a demand for movie theaters. It clearly takes extra effort to get people excited anymore. Mid movies without discernable concepts clearly just aren't going to cut it when it comes to automatically bring out the masses (at least at the budgets a lot of these movies carry) anymore.

yes, and I would argue the last point is why cinema’s in a death spiral. 3-4 megahits a year among a sea of failures is a shaky business model. 
 

 

Edited November 11, 2023 by Hatebox

[The GOAT]

3 minutes ago, TRISTAN said:

MI7 is a huge huge disappointment at the box office. Ask anyone in Paramount and Skydance.

Okay, but if it was released in November it would’ve earned $50-$200 million less

[MysteryMovieMogul]

5 minutes ago, TRISTAN said:

MI7 is a huge huge disappointment at the box office. Ask anyone in Paramount and Skydance.

Also, domestically, Indiana Jones made more than MI7.