Weekend Thread | Est. Renaissance $21M, TBOSS $14.5M, Godzilla -1.0 $11.03M, Trolls 3 $7.60M, Wish $7.41M, Napoleon $7.13M, Animal $6.14M, The Shift $4.36M &The Marvels $2.51M

[Torontofan]

10 minutes ago, grim22 said:

The last time Disney gave a movie to Gareth Edwards, they had to reshoot half the movie and pretty much remove him from the creative process at the end.

 

True but ironically that movie ended up being the only new SW that is liked now by the fanbase. 

 

Edited December 2, 2023 by Torontofan

[M37]

7 minutes ago, Noctis said:

 

Captain Marvel was so successful because of Infinity War and the lead up to Endgame.

 

It would have been a $600m WW grosser in normal circumstances.

I don't disagree, and even made such a point well before release, but for comparison, Ant-Man & Wasp was also a $622M grosser, and AMWQ manged $476M WW. 

Marvels isn't going to even reach $300M WW, below even pandemic impacted day & day Black Widow and Eternals at $379M and $402M WW respectively. That's what I mean about falling well below whatever presumed floor existed

[Cmasterclay]

Some solid numbers at the middle and lower end of the market and in the specialty release/one week engagement types that I think continues in December, but the lack of even a Jumanji level hit, much less an Avatar or NWH one, is brutal. Box office has some health returning in some places if you look hard enough but the lack of a mega hit dampens everything.

[Brainbug]

1 minute ago, Cmasterclay said:

Some solid numbers at the middle and lower end of the market and in the specialty release/one week engagement types that I think continues in December, but the lack of even a Jumanji level hit, much less an Avatar or NWH one, is brutal. Box office has some health returning in some places if you look hard enough but the lack of a mega hit dampens everything.

 

I think it could actually help to re-release some classic movies during the Christmas time/December. Like Lord of The Rings for example, i think a lot of people would gladly pay money ro rewatch those films in the theater during the Holidays.

[JimmyB]

1 minute ago, Brainbug said:

 

I think it could actually help to re-release some classic movies during the Christmas time/December. Like Lord of The Rings for example, i think a lot of people would gladly pay money ro rewatch those films in the theater during the Holidays.

I don't think so. I see this comment a lot on social media but whenever an older film gets re-release they never make much.  Streaming, VOD or if you sail the open seas you can find pretty much any movie to watch at anytime. I think that has killed the re-release market.

[M37]

2 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

 

I think it could actually help to re-release some classic movies during the Christmas time/December. Like Lord of The Rings for example, i think a lot of people would gladly pay money ro rewatch those films in the theater during the Holidays.

Honestly, it would unironically be a wise move for Disney to re-release Avatar 2 in 3D for Xmas. Fresh enough to warrant a rewatch, and with a viewing experience not replicable at home, without having to worry about true PLF screens already locked in 

[Arlborn]

1 hour ago, AMC Theaters Enjoyer said:

Starting to temper expectations for December. Still optimistic for a few movies but on the whole….it’s gonna be a long few months until March. At least Beyoncé and Hunger Games are showing life.

 

off topic but is Strange World actually bad? I’ve been curious about checking it out.

Strange World feels like it should have been rewritten a couple of times before it was filmed. It’s very bare bones, which is a pity because the concept is cool and it did wow me in a couple of places. Shame it’s surrounded by blandness.

 

it’s very inoffensive, makes for a fine nap lazy Sunday watch.

[Boxx93]

Remember those days in the 80s when Disney was ashamed that Black Cauldron was defeated at the box office by the Care Bears movie?

 

Yeah, we are back to those days. Even freaking Paw Patrol is doing better than Wish. 

[Arlborn]

40 minutes ago, grim22 said:

The last time Disney gave a movie to Gareth Edwards, they had to reshoot half the movie and pretty much remove him from the creative process at the end.

Has he ever had problems like this before, or since? That sounded more like a Star Wars franchise problem than an Edwards problem to me, but I could be wrong obviously.

 Movie turned out well liked as well, the most liked of the Disney era by many actually, which is funny considering everything.

[TwoMisfits]

Daily Domestic Chart for Friday December 1, 2023

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		Movie Title	Distributor	Gross	%YD	%LW	Theaters	Per Theater	Total Gross	Days In Release
1	N	RENAISSANCE: A FILM BY BE…	AMC Theatres…	$11,500,000			2,621	$4,388	$11,500,000	1
2	N	Godzilla Minus One	Toho Interna…	$4,720,000			2,308	$2,045	$4,720,000	1
3	(2)	Napoleon	Sony Pictures	$2,100,000	+91%	-75%	3,500	$600	$40,715,243	10
4	N	The Shift	Angel Studios	$1,764,972			2,450	$720	$1,764,972	1
5	(4)	Trolls Band Together	Universal	$1,660,000	+221%	-77%	3,893	$426	$68,893,055	15
-	(3)	Wish	Walt Disney	$1,630,000	+186%	-80%	3,900	$418	$36,173,942	10
-	(5)	Thanksgiving	Sony Pictures	$755,000	+123%	-73%	3,204	$236	$26,502,633	15
-	(7)	The Marvels	Walt Disney	$635,000	+112%	-74%	3,070	$207	$78,861,186	22
-	(-)	Dream Scenario	A24	$591,750	+231%	+151%	124	$4,772	$2,372,634	22
-	(-)	The Holdovers	Focus Features	$330,000	+75%	-69%	1,601	$206	$14,254,285	36
-	(-)	Killers of the Flower Moon	Paramount Pi…	$120,000	+61%	-71%	767	$156	$66,173,005	43
-	(-)	Five Nights at Freddy’s	Universal	$100,000	+70%	-85%	1,754	$57	$136,617,570	36
-	(-)	Priscilla	A24	$95,674	+20%	-79%	1,063	$90	$20,145,252	36
-	(-)	Next Goal Wins	Searchlight …	$61,000	-22%	-91%	2,240	$27	$6,227,715	15
-	(-)	Journey to Bethlehem	Sony Pictures	$50,000	+3%	-80%	1,384	$36	$6,010,057	22
-	(-)	Oppenheimer	Universal	$6,000	+56%	-36%	102	$59	$325,376,875	134
		16		$26,119,396

[BadOlCatSylvester]

2 hours ago, TwoMisfits said:

 

Seems like on the over/under 20M race, it should crack 20M and get to 21/22M without a catastrophic Sat/Sun fall...

 

Disney is setting up to have a disastrous holiday.  With Wish already under Trolls 3, it's lost the battle on which animated gets saved Dec 22 to accompany Migration for the biggest box office week of the year at most small and midsize theaters.  And Marvels is in free fall, and won't get saved, either.

 

We could be looking at a Xmas where 2500-3000 theaters carry no Disney product for the duration.

Whoever decided to bet Disney's entire holiday earnings on Wish of all movies and not to place a failsafe on the usual Disney December weekend is going to have to clear out their desk pretty soon.

[ThomasNicole]

She had an amazing 2022-2023 right? Everything that could go right in this Renaissance phase of her career happened 

 

 
 

[Jake4]

15 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:

She had an amazing 2022-2023 right? Everything that could go right in this Renaissance phase of her career happened 

 

 
 

With zero promo, interviews or music videos. The beyonce of 2008 would have been done 373884 promo activities. 

[Incarnadine]

1 hour ago, TheFlatLannister said:

This is a bigger bomb than The Marvels, right? 

Probably a toss up. TM will make a bit more but Wish had a smaller budget (TM $270m vs Wish $200m are the rough numbers I remember seeing).

Someone put in a very easy to explain way as to how much these 2 movies will lose between them. Figure combines budgets of $470m and roughly $100m each for marketing (probably a bit low), then figure roughly $400m combined WW boxoffice take of which Disney will get about 50%. So Disney recovers $200m from boxoffice, which covers the marketing costs, but doesn't even touch the budgets leaving a nearly half a Billion in losses.

 

[Kon]

8 minutes ago, Incarnadine said:

Probably a toss up. TM will make a bit more but Wish had a smaller budget (TM $270m vs Wish $200m are the rough numbers I remember seeing).

Someone put in a very easy to explain way as to how much these 2 movies will lose between them. Figure combines budgets of $470m and roughly $100m each for marketing (probably a bit low), then figure roughly $400m combined WW boxoffice take of which Disney will get about 50%. So Disney recovers $200m from boxoffice, which covers the marketing costs, but doesn't even touch the budgets leaving a nearly half a Billion in losses.

 

 

I've understood The Marvels is really $220M (the other $50M weren't part of the cost at the end). Not that it matters since the box office will hardly come close to that number.

Edited December 2, 2023 by Kon

[The Horror of Lucas Films]

That TBOSS number is pretty great, weekend will be around $15m-$17m. I'm starting to believe it can actually cross $200m DOM.

[John Marston]

The Maze Runner guy is making the new Planet of the Apes. I'm curious what the budget for that movie will be since those Maze Runner films were made on surprisingly modest budgets. 

[Johnny Tran]

If Apple wanted prestige, despite how much money the production would cost,  they got that back in spades.  If 'Killers of the Flower Moon' doesn't do anything for award season then maybe these posts would make sense.  

 

But I would bet KOTFW garnering several Oscar nominations. 

[Flip]

1 hour ago, TwoMisfits said:

Daily Domestic Chart for Friday December 1, 2023

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		Movie Title	Distributor	Gross	%YD	%LW	Theaters	Per Theater	Total Gross	Days In Release
1	N	RENAISSANCE: A FILM BY BE…	AMC Theatres…	$11,500,000			2,621	$4,388	$11,500,000	1
2	N	Godzilla Minus One	Toho Interna…	$4,720,000			2,308	$2,045	$4,720,000	1
3	(2)	Napoleon	Sony Pictures	$2,100,000	+91%	-75%	3,500	$600	$40,715,243	10
4	N	The Shift	Angel Studios	$1,764,972			2,450	$720	$1,764,972	1
5	(4)	Trolls Band Together	Universal	$1,660,000	+221%	-77%	3,893	$426	$68,893,055	15
-	(3)	Wish	Walt Disney	$1,630,000	+186%	-80%	3,900	$418	$36,173,942	10
-	(5)	Thanksgiving	Sony Pictures	$755,000	+123%	-73%	3,204	$236	$26,502,633	15
-	(7)	The Marvels	Walt Disney	$635,000	+112%	-74%	3,070	$207	$78,861,186	22
-	(-)	Dream Scenario	A24	$591,750	+231%	+151%	124	$4,772	$2,372,634	22
-	(-)	The Holdovers	Focus Features	$330,000	+75%	-69%	1,601	$206	$14,254,285	36
-	(-)	Killers of the Flower Moon	Paramount Pi…	$120,000	+61%	-71%	767	$156	$66,173,005	43
-	(-)	Five Nights at Freddy’s	Universal	$100,000	+70%	-85%	1,754	$57	$136,617,570	36
-	(-)	Priscilla	A24	$95,674	+20%	-79%	1,063	$90	$20,145,252	36
-	(-)	Next Goal Wins	Searchlight …	$61,000	-22%	-91%	2,240	$27	$6,227,715	15
-	(-)	Journey to Bethlehem	Sony Pictures	$50,000	+3%	-80%	1,384	$36	$6,010,057	22
-	(-)	Oppenheimer	Universal	$6,000	+56%	-36%	102	$59	$325,376,875	134
		16		$26,119,396

looks like Holdovers won't get any more theaters, which is pretty sad

[Eric Quinn]

7 minutes ago, Flip said:

looks like Holdovers won't get any more theaters, which is pretty sad

My Regal already relegated Holdovers to just one showtime a day. Understandable with five new releases, and adding in Dream Scenario to their expansion, but it's definitely unfair and disappointing to a great film like this.