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[Xftg123]

I've wondered about this but is the reason why Spirited Away still the highest grossing movie in Japan and most attended one at the box office due to inflation and/or exchange rates? It's still at 30 Billion Yen, Frozen managed to pass it but it's at 25 Billion Yen.

[SchumacherFTW]

1 hour ago, Xftg123 said:

I've wondered about this but is the reason why Spirited Away still the highest grossing movie in Japan and most attended one at the box office due to inflation and/or exchange rates? It's still at 30 Billion Yen, Frozen managed to pass it but it's at 25 Billion Yen.

USD numbers have no bearing on what the highest crossing film is in JPY

[catlover]

12 hours ago, Xftg123 said:

I've wondered about this but is the reason why Spirited Away still the highest grossing movie in Japan and most attended one at the box office due to inflation and/or exchange rates? It's still at 30 Billion Yen, Frozen managed to pass it but it's at 25 Billion Yen.

Okay first of all, it's in YEN. Why would exchange rates matter? Second of all, inflation in Japan is close to zero. Ticket prices only went up once in the last 26 years. So the answer to your question, is no.

 

 

[Tower]

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Weekend Actuals (11/09-10)
01 (---) ¥468,760,000 ($4.3 million), 0, ¥637,281,850 ($5.8 million), Terminator: Dark Fate (Fox) NEW
02 (01) ¥220,738,550 ($2.0 million), -19%, ¥887,300,050 ($8.1 million), It: Chapter Two (Warner Bros.) WK2
03 (02) ¥128,862,650 ($1.2 million), -41%, ¥4,420,193,250 ($40.7 million), Joker (Warner Bros.) WK6
04 (---) ¥121,000,000 ($1.1 million), 0, ¥132,873,500 ($1.2 million), Sumikko Gurashi: The Pop-Up Book and The Mystery Child (Asmik Ace) NEW
05 (04) ¥x71,353,000 ($840,000), -45%, ¥476,379,700 ($4.4 million), At the Matinee (Toho) WK2
06 (---) ¥x70,000,000 ($640,000), 0, ¥100,000,000 ($0.9 million), Re: Life in a Different World from Zero (Kadokawa) NEW
07 (---) ¥x60,000,000 ($550,000), 0, ¥x80,000,000 ($0.7 million), One Night (Nikkatsu) NEW
08 (05) ¥x58,575,910 ($537,000), -31%, ¥404,907,490 ($3.7 million), Saekano: How to Raise a Boring Girlfriend (Aniplex) WK3
09 (04) ¥x57,187,250 ($524,000), -45%, ¥1,214,963,600 ($11.1 million), Maleficent: Mistress of Evil (Disney) WK4
10 (06) ¥x56,521,100 ($518,000), -30%, ¥670,522,800 ($6.2 million), Immortal Heroes (Nikkatsu) WK4
11 (10) ¥x49,308,800 ($452,000), +10%, ¥185,732,800 ($1.7 million), Black School Rules (Shochiku) WK2
12 (09) ¥x40,850,500 ($374,000), -36%, ¥570,618,800 ($5.2 million), Star☆Twinkle PreCure: Putting Thought into the Star Song (Toei) WK4

>Terminator: Dark Fate doesn't debut as high as early numbers were suggesting, and what looked like an opening weekend on track to surpass both of its predecessors, unfortunately turned into one that came in below them. The sixth film in the long-running franchise sold 328,321 admissions over the weekend frame across 810 screens; it sold 449,565 admissions since opening on Friday.

So... while this is 9% below the debut of Terminator: Genisys and 21% below Terminator: Salvation, the opening weekend really isn't that bad. It's not particularly good, but it's reasonable given the decline of the franchise. The early numbers and better reception (albeit barely so) just really misled projections. Look for a finish between ¥2.5-3.0 billion ($25-30 million).

>It: Chapter Two opened 47% higher than its predecessor last weekend, and while that percentage is impressive, it was expected to do a bit more given the breakout success (and strong reception) of its predecessor. I then said that it was unlikely to match the legs of the original, and would probably gross less. Well, I may have called this wrong because Chapter Two just delivered a great second weekend. It's still not likely to have the longevity of the original, but this hold will go a long way it getting it above the original's total. We'll see.

>Sumikko Gurashi: The Pop-Up Book and The Mystery Child really surprised over the weekend, and earned itself a solid fourth place debut (third in admissions), selling 104,000 admissions over the weekend on 114 screens; it sold 114,280 admissions since opening on Friday. As you can see, given the incredibly low Friday admissions, the weekend numbers themselves came in significantly higher than expected.

>The numbers for Re: Life in a Different World from Zero and One Night are estimates. I'll update them when/if their respective figures are released.

[POTUS 2020]

On 11/9/2019 at 8:42 PM, SchumacherFTW said:

USD numbers have no bearing on what the highest crossing film is in JPY

It does to Disney and international BO followers

On 11/9/2019 at 7:29 PM, Xftg123 said:

I've wondered about this but is the reason why Spirited Away still the highest grossing movie in Japan and most attended one at the box office due to inflation and/or exchange rates? It's still at 30 Billion Yen, Frozen managed to pass it but it's at 25 Billion Yen.

XR changed is the simple answer.

 

[SchumacherFTW]

11 minutes ago, POTUS 2020 said:

It does to Disney and international BO followers

XR changed is the simple answer.

 

Sweetie, you missed the point of what I was saying entirely, the highest grossing Film in JPY isn't related to USD at all. But yes, the highest grossing in USD is relevant to this forum. 

[POTUS 2020]

8 minutes ago, SchumacherFTW said:

Sweetie, you missed the point of what I was saying entirely, the highest grossing Film in JPY isn't related to USD at all. But yes, the highest grossing in USD is relevant to this forum. 

Honey.

He was asking about dollars.

Nevermind 

 

F2 O/U at $150m ?

Should be fun to watch the dailies for a while.

Who's in charge if tracking these days?

 

 

[Steven]

On 11/10/2019 at 2:29 AM, Xftg123 said:

I've wondered about this but is the reason why Spirited Away still the highest grossing movie in Japan and most attended one at the box office due to inflation and/or exchange rates? It's still at 30 Billion Yen, Frozen managed to pass it but it's at 25 Billion Yen.

most attend movie in Japan is Ben-Hur(1960s, 30m admission),not Spirit Away

[charlie Jatinder]

8 minutes ago, POTUS 2020 said:

Who's in charge if tracking these days?

I guess everyone, just like China thread, people simply go to main source, i.e. mimorin.

[PKMLover]

7 minutes ago, Jedi Jat said:

I guess everyone, just like China thread, people simply go to main source, i.e. mimorin.

How much presale for Frozen 2 so far in Japan?

[Legion Again]

1 hour ago, POTUS 2020 said:

Honey.

He was asking about dollars.

Nevermind 

 

F2 O/U at $150m ?

Should be fun to watch the dailies for a while.

Who's in charge if tracking these days?

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Jedi Jat said:

I guess everyone, just like China thread, people simply go to main source, i.e. mimorin.

As far as I know the Japan tracking situation is usually:  

nobody tracks PS because it’s a legs market (like the only one on earth, at least to the same degree)  

Corpse tracks weekends (and weekdays when exciting), gets posted here from WoKJ

If any other people are feeling excited about weekdays, they just go to a direct source and post what they’re seeing. 

 

Edited November 16, 2019 by Thanos Legion

[POTUS 2020]

1 hour ago, Thanos Legion said:

 

As far as I know the Japan tracking situation is usually:  

nobody tracks PS because it’s a legs market (like the only one on earth, at least to the same degree)  

Corpse tracks weekends (and weekdays when exciting), gets posted here from WoKJ

If any other people are feeling excited about weekdays, they just go to a direct source and post what they’re seeing. 

 

With Frozen 2 there may be daily tracking and posting.

This thread blew up with F1.  Thats when I joined BOT. We were projecting 11am numbers from Toho's market share. 

The weekends were virtually flat for months

Mar 15-16	1	$7,531,463	-	598	-	$12,594	$9,731,697	1
Mar 22-23	1	$8,530,751	+13.3%	596	-2	$14,313	$29,535,712	2
Mar 29-30	1	$8,569,604	+0.5%	596	-	$14,378	$51,579,593	3
Apr 5-6	1	$8,238,087	-3.9%	600	+4	$13,730	$75,093,431	4
Apr 12-13	1	$8,286,116	+0.6%	599	-1	$13,833	$90,636,007	5
Apr 19-20	1	$8,046,563	-2.9%	600	+1	$13,410	$104,683,811	6
Apr 26-27	1	$7,558,540	-6.1%	744	+144	$10,159	$118,594,135	7
May 3-4	1	$11,037,689	+46%	739	-5	$14,935	$143,207,359	8
May 10-11	1	$7,259,605	-34.2%	703	-36	$10,326	$166,953,747	9
May 17-18	1	$7,951,805	+9.5%	670	-33	$11,868	$181,228,459	10
May 24-25	1	$6,868,097	-13.6%	650	-20	$10,566	$194,123,636	11
May 31-Jun 1	1	$7,462,133	+8.6%	635	-15	$11,751	$207,749,319	12
Jun 7-8	1	$5,781,224	-22.5%	601	-34	$9,619	$218,470,155	13
Jun

Edited November 16, 2019 by POTUS 2020

[Legion Again]

1 minute ago, POTUS 2020 said:

This thread blew up with F1.  Thats when I joined BOT. We were projecting 11am numbers from Toho's market share. 

Sounds like good times.   

 

Pretty much what I was doing for latter part of Aladdin in SK, planning on something similar for F2 in SK. 

[catlover]

On 11/16/2019 at 9:42 PM, Steven said:

most attend movie in Japan is Ben-Hur(1960s, 30m admission),not Spirit Away

Really? Higher than Tokyo Olimpiad and Emperor Meiji? Where did you get that? Any sources? Because it's the first time I'm hearing this and it's hard to imagine that in the 60s a western film had more admission than those two Japanese films. It is interesting if that's true.

Edited November 18, 2019 by catlover

[cannastop]

Geez what happened to Corpse?

[Steven]

7 hours ago, catlover said:

Really? Higher than Tokyo Olimpiad and Emperor Meiji? Where did you get that? Any sources? Because it's the first time I'm hearing this and it's hard to imagine that in the 60s a western film had more admission than those two Japanese films. It is interesting if that's true.

yeah,Ben hur did really good in Japan

Ben-Hur gross over JPY 590m in 1960,and hit another JPY 900m in 1961,total gross JPY 1490m（ Tokyo Olimpiad box office:1220m ,）,and it become highest grossing film in Japan at that time, holding record for 14 years.(beaten by Bruce Lee's movie"Enter the Dragon")

top grossing film by year in Japan（1960-1969）

1960:Ben Hur-590m

1961:Ben Hur-900m

1962:West side story-690m

1963:Lawrence of Arabia-590m

1964: Tokyo Olimpiad-1220m

1965:James Bond-Goldfinger-706m

1966:James Bond-Thunder ball-1018m

1967:くろべのたいよう-796m

1968:ふうりんかざん-720m

1969:栄光への5000キロ-650m

 

Edited November 18, 2019 by Steven

[Steven]

We can see Ben-Hur is the most popular movie in Japan at that time,and James bond series is really popular in japan 

Edited November 18, 2019 by Steven

[catlover]

3 hours ago, Steven said:

yeah,Ben hur did really good in Japan

Ben-Hur gross over JPY 590m in 1960,and hit another JPY 900m in 1961,total gross JPY 1490m（ Tokyo Olimpiad box office:1220m ,）,and it become highest grossing film in Japan at that time, holding record for 14 years.(beaten by Bruce Lee's movie"Enter the Dragon")

top grossing film by year in Japan（1960-1969）

1960:Ben Hur-590m

1961:Ben Hur-900m

1962:West side story-690m

1963:Lawrence of Arabia-590m

1964: Tokyo Olimpiad-1220m

1965:James Bond-Goldfinger-706m

1966:James Bond-Thunder ball-1018m

1967:くろべのたいよう-796m

1968:ふうりんかざん-720m

1969:栄光への5000キロ-650m

 

Again, what is the source? This is very useful and interesting. Also, I looked for the admission price in 1960s, and according to this: http://www.eiren.org/statistics_e/

the average ticket prices in 1960 and 1961 were 72 and 85 yen. Let's take the lower one for Ben Hur. Then we get 20.69m admissions, still lower that Spirited Away's 23.5m. Since you said 30m for Ben Hur, does that mean it had much lower ticket price than the average?

Edited November 18, 2019 by catlover

[Steven]

9 minutes ago, catlover said:

Again, what is the source? This is very useful and interesting. Also, I looked for the admission price in 1960s, and according to this: http://www.eiren.org/statistics_e/

the average ticket prices in 1960 and 1961 were 72 and 85 yen. Let's take the lower one for Ben Hur. Then we get 20.69m admissions, still lower that Spirited Away's 23.5m. Since you said 30m for Ben Hur, does that mean it had much lower ticket price than the average?

sorry,I can't give you a "source",I have a friend，He is an expert in Box Office data，he told me about this(he has so many book about box office,maybe he find it in his book,I will ask him)

Edited November 18, 2019 by Steven

[KP1025]

This is what Corpse had to say about Ben-Hur's admissions. 

 

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I wouldn't rule it out, but it does seem too high [16.11 million]. A couple years ago, enzo1988 (no longer posts here, but he may lurk) and I worked out some admission estimates for a lot of films without any reported admissions, and we came up with 9.9 million (or 10 million, practically) for Ben-Hur. 

That said, many, many older films receive limited re-releases in Japan on a pretty regular basis. For example, I noticed that E.T. was playing (again) a week or two ago. I've seen Gone with the Wind, Terminator, and Ghostbusters also playing this year, and I'm sure there are many others I just didn't notice.  

If you add up the numerous re-releases of some films, I wouldn't be surprised if Ben-Hur or other films have much higher overall admissions following their initial theatrical release. Jaws is also significantly higher on that chart than its reported admissions, which, again, is probably a result of dozens of re-releases. It's just that numbers are nearly non-existent for these re-releases.