JAPAN BOX OFFICE | Demon Slayer breaks all time record for OW

[Legion Again]

2 out of 3 from 2019, nice. Let’s make 3 out of 4 at least  

[keysersoze123]

In theory it has the capacity to take OW record. Question is would this movie have such a big push during OW or will the audience wait. Its an insanely backloaded market. Plus women have special discounts for wednesday, 1st day of a month and so many other days. So one can never say. 

 

Corpse quote does not confirm anything as its early days and it could have insane walkins to break OW record. 

 

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November 23rd is the next, and last, national holiday on the calendar until January 1st now due to Emperor Akihito abdicating the throne this year (his birthday, December 23rd, was a holiday for the last 30 years).  February 23rd, Emperor Naruhito's birthday, is the new Emperor's Day holiday date.

Also, since November 23rd falls on a Saturday this year, it's not going to provide any real boost at the box-office.  Saturday is the worst day for any holiday to fall on in the market.  Any holiday on a weekday provides a significant boost, and if one lands on a Sunday, then that Monday becomes a holiday as well.  But a Saturday?  Nothing.  

So, Frozen 2 won't be able to take advantage of this either, and will have to wait until January 1st before receiving a holiday bump.  I'm sure the film will do amazing, but releasing day-and-date in Japan wasn't a good choice.  I'll talk more about this in the Weekend Forecast on Friday (in short: should have released in March again).

 

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Frozen 2 will, unofficially, break the modern day showings/seating record, and it's doing so with ease.  

Unsurprisingly, Disney and theaters are going all-out for its release.  By comparison, it's receiving 50/60% more showings/seating than other major releases such as the recent Star Wars films or Disney live-action releases like Aladdin.  

So, it'll have more than enough showings and seating available to allow for a record opening, or at least a mammoth one, but will it?  I'll have a list up soon of widest releases in terms of showtimes/seating.  Just note that receiving a trillion showtimes/seats doesn't always translate to a bigger opening.  Interest, of course, still has to be there.

 

Edited November 21, 2019 by keysersoze123

[catlover]

55 minutes ago, KP1025 said:

 

According to Corpse, here are the biggest opening weekends without previews included.

 

 

Yeah I was thinking Yo-Kai Watch but wasn't sure how big. So it's ¥1.6B. With all that seats, Frozen 2 can challenge this I guess. But the question is how many of that seats will be filled on OW. I feel that it won't break it, because it will be more backloaded compared to those animes on the top of the list.

[Legion Again]

I will be more than content with beating One Piece Z. Still possibility for a splendid run debuting below that, as long as it’s loved.

[charlie Jatinder]

I think Toy Story numbers may be far fetched but let's see. It will be crazy if it hit $7mn on Saturday & Sunday.

[Sunny Max]

6 hours ago, catlover said:

That would need ¥2B. For 3 days, maybe, but unlikely. And for traditional 2-day OW, I don't think theaters in Japan have that kind of capacity. That number for ROTS is recorded as its "2-day" OW. But if I remember correctly, it actually includes previews on the previous weeks. The same with other biggest openers like Matrix Reloaded. It makes me wondering, what movie has the biggest OW without previews?

as per insidekino

 

The best starts of all time
No.	visitors	Movie
1	1486743	Matrix reloaded
	1484916	Yo-Ki Watch
3	1469755	Harry Potter 3
4	1467945	Harry Potter 5
5	1421738	Pirates of the Caribbean 2
6	1390446	Harry Potter 2
7	1359454	Harry Potter 4
8th	1357977	The revenge of the Sith
9	1279120	Harry Potter 1
10	1198210	The Lord of the Rings 2

[catlover]

1 hour ago, Sunny Max said:

as per insidekino

 

The best starts of all time
No.	visitors	Movie
1	1486743	Matrix reloaded
	1484916	Yo-Ki Watch
3	1469755	Harry Potter 3
4	1467945	Harry Potter 5
5	1421738	Pirates of the Caribbean 2
6	1390446	Harry Potter 2
7	1359454	Harry Potter 4
8th	1357977	The revenge of the Sith
9	1279120	Harry Potter 1
10	1198210	The Lord of the Rings 2

I checked the box office report on eiga.com for the week each movie was released, and I found that only Yo-Kai Watch, HP2 and HP1's are without previews. Also HP1's number is supposed to be 1,379,120. So I think it's:

1. Yo-Kai Watch

2. HP2

3. HP1

 

It's really hard to do comparison with this "previews are included in OW" thing, because back in the day, "previews" were held in Japan, not only for several hours, but for a whole day or a whole weekend, or even multiple weekends. Thank god, they don't do that anymore.

[Sunny Max]

1 minute ago, catlover said:

I checked the box office report on eiga.com for the week each movie was released, and I found that only Yo-Kai Watch, HP2 and HP1's are without previews. Also HP1's number is supposed to be 1,379,120. So I think it's:

1. Yo-Kai Watch

2. HP2

3. HP1

Yeah that's the top 3 all time openers without previews ..

 

Look at the HP series in Japan ..  From OWs to life time 

[KP1025]

5 hours ago, Sunny Max said:

 

Look at the HP series in Japan ..  From OWs to life time 

 

Yeah, Harry Potter was a true phenomenon in Japan. Although each sequel continued to lose a large portion of the audience (the final film grossed less than half of the first film).

[Mau]

So i read that there are no classes in japan from saturday 25 to january 5, is this true? Could this help frozen 2 BO in japan? 

[cannastop]

15 minutes ago, Mau said:

So i read that there are no classes in japan from saturday 25 to january 5, is this true? Could this help frozen 2 BO in japan? 

Yeah it absolutely would help Frozen II. That also sounds pretty true.

Edited November 21, 2019 by cannastop

[POTUS 2020]

13 hours ago, Jedi Jat said:

I think Toy Story numbers may be far fetched but let's see. It will be crazy if it hit $7mn on Saturday & Sunday.

you mean $7m each day?  $14m total?

 

I dont think OW matters much.  Weekdays will be interesting to gauge.  3rd weekend hold will be telltale.

[keysersoze123]

TS4 faced major competition having released in summer. F2 has relatively open calendar. Though Corpse feels it should have kept March release like previous movie. 

[Sunny Max]

4 hours ago, KP1025 said:

 

Yeah, Harry Potter was a true phenomenon in Japan. Although each sequel continued to lose a large portion of the audience (the final film grossed less than half of the first film).

Yeah .. 60.70 Million total admissions for the franchise in Japan ...  Absolutely ridiculous 

[Mau]

How much can star wars hurt frozen in japan? 

[RJ 95]

3 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

TS4 faced major competition having released in summer. F2 has relatively open calendar. Though Corpse feels it should have kept March release like previous movie. 

Yeah, don't know why it doesn't keep March release. Probably doesn't want to let Japan as it's biggest market has to wait 5 months to watch it. Still if it release in March it will get spring break for students and Golden Weeks to push late legs like first movie.

[KP1025]

49 minutes ago, Mau said:

How much can star wars hurt frozen in japan? 

 

Probably very little effect, just like how Lion King did not affect TS4 in any meaningful way. In Japan, big releases can often exist side by side without cannibalizing each other's business. 

[RJ 95]

Also i just know that TS4 OW inflated by Monday holiday. That's why it's evening business was much stronger than usual and why Sunday increase 54% over Saturday.

It's Fri-Sun 146-274-422 on mimorin.

 

Anyway Frozen 2 just started it's first day, let's see if today can get 200k admission from mimorin number. With Joker I usually just multiply it with 20 ( ¥1500 yen avg Tix)  to get it's daily gross but animated movies should have different avg ticket price I guess. 

Edited November 22, 2019 by RJ 95

[RJ 95]

51k at 2pm local time.

TS4 with 42k at that time, with same multiplier Frozen 2 will get 177k for today.

 

[Mau]

Just now, RJ 95 said:

51k at 2pm local time.

TS4 with 42k at that time, with same multiplier Frozen 2 will get 177k for today.

 

How is WOM?