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China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30

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1 minute ago, Jedi Jat said:

Pre-sales are dull in USA. Almost likely to fall under 200mn.

Tbf considering the kind of performance the first film had, judging this one on presales isn't a good idea. But do you know how its international opening weekend is looking? How much under Deadline's 60 mil prediction do you think it will be?

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41 minutes ago, fmpro said:

To base that on Maoyan rating is crazy. Even if grosses also comes in a bit short in China

Have been suspecting under 500 a bit now. (Since <250 DOM+China started looking plausible). Maybe developed markets will hold more from first though, let’s see how the other markets this weekend go. But 36*5.5 is almost a good DOM performance now and that’s 198 whereas I think China miss $50.   

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Depressing for Jumanji. It's $100 odd prod budget is the saving grace.

 

Hope 7.9 (23.5k votes) is a temp anomaly and the final rating increases close to 8.5. Happened with Hobbs & Shaw.

 

If China plays spoil sport $500 looks far from locked, forget $550-600.

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38 minutes ago, a2k said:

Depressing for Jumanji. It's $100 odd prod budget is the saving grace.

 

Hope 7.9 (23.5k votes) is a temp anomaly and the final rating increases close to 8.5. Happened with Hobbs & Shaw.

 

If China plays spoil sport $500 looks far from locked, forget $550-600.

 

I think H&S got review bombed because of the trade war, which escalated around that weekend. In any case, that started at 8.2 on Maoyan and increased to 8.6 currently. Same increase gives 8.3 for Jumanji 3, which is still a pretty poor score unfortunately. 

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9 hours ago, Barnack said:

 

Most people in most country tend to feel quite the same the minute it concern part of their country (Canada right now is refusing entry to the Catalan separatist leader), independent tend to be good for others far away, but if Alberta, Texas, Québec, Catalan's, etc... want it, people from the country that would break it up tend to talk quite against it.

Catalonia is such a tough one. They would become independent and not be in the EU. It would hurt both them and obviously Spain. It's like Brexit. No matter how they leave it's going to hurt both sides. No deal will hurt UK very bad. They will be in an extremely vulnerable trading position. 

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1 hour ago, a2k said:

Depressing for Jumanji. It's $100 odd prod budget is the saving grace.

 

Hope 7.9 (23.5k votes) is a temp anomaly and the final rating increases close to 8.5. Happened with Hobbs & Shaw.

 

If China plays spoil sport $500 looks far from locked, forget $550-600.

The Rock is collecting 23,5 mill for the gig and with a huge cast im thinking 200 mill production budget+salerys and 150 mill p&a. 
500 mill WW will not save the day

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They gave the new releases 85% of shows, the highest I've ever seen for just 120m in BO

J2 with just 61m for OD, a little over 3x PS.  Tomorrow PS looking weak. Won't bump much, $26-28m OW.

KO and F2 took a hit just a few % of shows.  They will double up on shows tomorrow.  F2 PS up 300%+

 

Chinese audience has matured, its treating many sub par sequels like the rest of the world now.

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3 minutes ago, fmpro said:

The Rock is collecting 23,5 mill for the gig and with a huge cast im thinking 200 mill production budget+salerys and 150 mill p&a. 
500 mill WW will not save the day

JUM2 had a wide range of $90-150 so this one could be $200 who knows. Reported is $125 it seems.

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The Dwayne Johnson and Kevin Hart-led sequel, which arrives in theaters on Dec. 13, is on pace to debut to $40 million to $50 million, according to early tracking services. Since tracking has been unreliable for sequels in recent weeks, Sony is cautiously projecting $35 million over the three-day frame. The studio’s estimates would be a softer start, given the movie’s A-list cast and reported $125 million production budget. 

DJ and Hart could have strong back-end deals to keep the prod budget lower.

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9 minutes ago, cdsacken said:

Catalonia is such a tough one. They would become independent and not be in the EU. It would hurt both them and obviously Spain. It's like Brexit. No matter how they leave it's going to hurt both sides. No deal will hurt UK very bad. They will be in an extremely vulnerable trading position. 

Catalonia will not be independent. At least not without a deep change in current Constitution which will not be done. Maybe Spain could change its status towards a federal system, but not with independent states (we have more nationalistic issues like the already well known Basque Country because of 40 year ETA's terrorism or with way lower strength, in Galicia). Spain is a really complicated country.

 

Sorry for the off-topic.

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1 minute ago, peludo said:

Catalonia will not be independent. At least not without a deep change in current Constitution which will not be done. Maybe Spain could change its status towards a federal system, but not with independent states (we have more nationalistic issues like the already well known Basque Country because of 40 year ETA's terrorism or with way lower strength, in Galicia). Spain is a really complicated country.

 

Sorry for the off-topic.

Oh I agree no doubt.

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8 hours ago, Jedi Jat said:

25% is of Nett Gross.

 

Reported Gross - Ticket Booking Charges = Gross

Gross - GST/VAT : Net

25% of Nett is roughly 21% of Reported Gross.

 

Endgame

Reported Gross: 4.24Bn

Gross: 4.018Bn

 

Disney: 921.3mn

Theatres: 2.1Bn

Govt/Others: 996.4mn

nice breakdown

 

studio cut is more close to 23% than 21% though, out of reported gross

 

25% of real box office (pre-2017 reported box office)

23% of reported box office with ticketing charges

 

 

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1 hour ago, POTUS 2020 said:

Chinese audience has matured, its treating many sub par sequels like the rest of the world now.

Sub par first entries too. If you wanna get your movie saved by China in the 2020s you won’t be able to halfass it.

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