Lordmandeep Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I agree TDKR is not Pretentious...It was over hyped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squaremaster316 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 From what I've read by various boards, it seems to indicate:"Any film that expands the boundaries and elevates the film genre instead of rigidly adhering to imaginary guidelines and staying well within the box"or"Any film that uses humor that is subtle and/or dark rather than camp/slapstick" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackO Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 When I use it to criticize films it is because they are trying to use some sort of pseudo intellectualism that never quite executes successfully Like I would definitely call Tree of Life pretentious, because to me, it tried to be this big meditation on life itself but instead it ended up being a long muddled boring mess with nothing unique or special to say. It was a director's whacking off to himself. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 The only thing pretentious about The Artist is not the film itself, but the Academy giving it Best Picture for the stupidest reason in the world which was "Look, we're smarter than you" while the rest of the country was laughing their asses off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted January 23, 2013 Author Share Posted January 23, 2013 From what I've read by various boards, it seems to indicate: "Any film that expands the boundaries and elevates the film genre instead of rigidly adhering to imaginary guidelines and staying well within the box" or "Any film that uses humor that is subtle and/or dark rather than camp/slapstick" Now you're being pretentious 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmac Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I too thought Tree of Life was very pretentious. Good call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmac Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I think Quentin Tarantino movies are pretentious but I still very much enjoy them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 The worst part about the word pretentious is that it ends any semblance of a conversation about the movie. By using that word you're writing the purpose and intentions of an entire film off. Malick is definitely saying something with Tree of Life, whether it's entirely accessible or not is another story. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Pretentious is such a perfect word to describe The Artist, though. What the fuck? How does that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 The Artist is not pretentious since it's incredibly sincere and upfront about what it's about and runs more on emotion than thought. The Tree of Life may be pretentious IF you think the film doesn't earn what it floats around trying to speak about. I for one think it doesn't earn any praise aside from its technical wizardry and Brad Pitt's performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 I dont think Tree of Life is pretentious. Its challenging, thats for sure, but it was sincere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashrendar44 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Malick's filmography earned him every right to be "pretentious" (even if I don't think Tree Of Life is, it's just a sincere and very personal "Ode to Life itself" and that is for most people pretentious and self-indulgent in itself). Edited January 27, 2013 by dashrendar44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Honestly if Tree of Life was just the personal family story nobody would be calling it 'pretentious'. Because Malick tried to connect it with larger truths about the world, people feel the need to attack it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Even if I always didn't know what Malick was trying to say, The Tree of Life certainly was interesting to watch all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Sean Penn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) The worst part about the word pretentious is that it ends any semblance of a conversation about the movie. Edited January 27, 2013 by Shpongle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punishment Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Synonyms for pretentious: AffectedOstentatiousShowyExaggeratedConceitedHollowPompousFake Hmm, doesn't that describe all movies? "Are you not entertained" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 MICHAEL HANEKE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 MICHAEL HANEKE NO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 NO SOMETIMES. THOUGH ADMITTEDLY NOT ALL THE TIME BUT I BELIEVE HE HAS A TENDENCY TO BELIEVE WHAT HE'S DOING IS DEEPER THAN IT SEEMS TO ME. LIKE CACHE FOR EXAMPLE, I DO NOT CARE MUCH FOR IT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
