riczhang Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) How could you not love Cache? It was genius, brilliant, and one of the best of the last decade. Duh. Everyone knows that. Edited February 13, 2013 by riczhang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) LOUD NOISES Edited February 13, 2013 by Gopher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Not seen Cache yet, but Benny's Video and The White Ribbon in particular are two of the most pretentious films I've seen. The Seventh Continent and Amour are mostly saved from that by the inherent simplicity of their premises, but Haneke doesn't exactly help himself with his style - the lack of music, the documentary-like realism, the long shots with camera standing in one place for minutes, the open ending, the length and B&W cinematography (all three in the case of TWR) - coming from him it all comes off as overtly deliberate and practically screaming "look what a dead-serious artist I am, look how important my themes are!". Except in the end, I haven't yet seen him entirely earn that attitude. The Seventh Continent is the closest he's come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 Most of Haneke's movies seem very unappealing and artsy, but Amour I really liked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stingray Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 riczhang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 With Haneke, I don't think I would apply "pretentious". He tackles serious and dark themes and so his films are not very appealing, but they're well-constructed if a little "teachery" and dry. The only thing close to pretentious in his films are many of his characters which are not characters in themselves, but serve as manifestations of, say, a religion or an attitude. That's rather patronizing because that way he forces some of his themes on the audience instead of letting them connect the points themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) You ve probably never read a Michael Haneke interview. His vision of cinema and Hollywood is one of the most patronizing,stupid thing I have ever read. He is pseudo intellectualism at its worst. Always giving lessons about morality and all ... pffff He represents everything I loathe in an artist : pretentious, intellectual and has probably never laughed at a fart joke in his entire life. As Michael Bay would say : I think he has a birth defect, he misses the fun gene. Haneke means pretentious in Austrian : look for it, it s true. Plus, Quentin Tarantino agrees with me. Edited February 13, 2013 by The Futurist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I haven't seen most of his interviews, but barely kept myself from facepalming when in Hollywood Reporter's writers' roundtable discussion he denounced Schindler's List for being emotionally manipulative. Yeah, 'cause Amour is totally not. On the other hand, checking out his personal quotes on IMDb I didn't find anything to disagree with, quite the opposite for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAR Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 The only film of his I've seen is his American remake of Funny Games. A film I rather hate, but everytime it's on, I'll watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmac Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I'd like to add Nicolas Refn to the list of pretentious directors. I know, I know, minimalism doesn't equate to pretentiousness but I'm sorry, I just can't make that distinction in Drive and from what it sounds like OGF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatebox Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 In a post-internet forum age, the word pretentious means absolutely nothing. Except that the person using it wasn't more imaginative in their rebuttal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatebox Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I think Eyes Wide Shut is just a bad movie It isn't. It really isn't. Just take my word for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) I think my personal definition has come to be films that are obviously trying to make a point, but it's never really clear what it is. This should be right next to the word in the dictionary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGs4CjeJiJQ Edited July 18, 2013 by tribefan695 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Woody Allen defines PRETENTIOUS perfectly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Cate Blanchett is walking pretentious. She turns even the most unpretentious characters into pretentious ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Woody Allen defines PRETENTIOUS perfectly.This 100% The dialogue in Midnight in Paris actually made me laugh because of it.I think critics are far more pretentious than directors though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) Cate Blanchett is walking pretentious. She turns even the most unpretentious characters into pretentious ones. She and Nicole Kidman both consider themselves Hollywood female icons ... Posers ? Edited July 18, 2013 by firedeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luna Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 The worst part about the word pretentious is that it ends any semblance of a conversation about the movie. By using that word you're writing the purpose and intentions of an entire film off. Malick is definitely saying something with Tree of Life, whether it's entirely accessible or not is another story. well he was saying something, if by something we mean syntax and grammar and words and questions...but was about semantics? all i got from it was grandiose imagery and ethereal voices speaking in rhetorical questions, a style reminiscent of corporate PR-speak. so for me at least, i certainly think this is one of the very few art movies that deserves the word pretentious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 She and Nicole Kidman both consider themselves Hollywood female icons ... Posers ? I wouldn't say they consider themselves. Their fandoms are completley delusional since GA relaly doens't care for either. But I've never heard any of them say something to that extent. They are actually very likable and donw to Earth in interviews. On screne is anothe rmatter, though I consider Kidman a supperior actress. Blanchett is always hammy. Kidman ha smuch more range. She cna play staight and she can play offbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 If you're not a Disney fan, you're pretentious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
