Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[Borobudur]

2 minutes ago, Wolverpool XXR said:

 

Indeed, but losing (basically) all the PLF screens. Will be interesting to see the drop.

Around my area, they give Amsterdam significant amount of IMAX showtimes but the occupancy rate has been a disasters, There was only 3 people for a 2200pm showtime in a 300-people hall.  

 

What a waste of resources. 

[IronJimbo]

Could Avatar 2 be the highest grossing movie of 2022 and 2023? If you split it's gross into the calender years?

[Elessar]

2 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

Could Avatar 2 be the highest grossing movie of 2022 and 2023? If you split it's gross into the calender years?

 

You are doing a fine job bumping up this thread.

[Deuce66]

6 hours ago, IronJimbo said:

Could Avatar 2 be the highest grossing movie of 2022 and 2023? If you split it's gross into the calender years?

 

Now that would be a record to never be broken.....can it make $1.5 B in 14-16 days and another $1.5-$2B in 2023, that would be something. Unless China explodes with $400-$700 million there's no chance. 

 

The big competition in 2023. There are probably half a dozen $1B + movies in that list for sure.

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/most-anticipated-movies-of-2023/

 

 

[XXR & Friends]

6 hours ago, IronJimbo said:

Could Avatar 2 be the highest grossing movie of 2022 and 2023? If you split it's gross into the calender years?

 

6 minutes ago, Deuce66 said:

 

Now that would be a record to never be broken.....can it make $1.5 B in 14-16 days and another $1.5-$2B in 2023, that would be something. Unless China explodes with $400-$700 million there's no chance. 

 

The big competition in 2023. There are probably half a dozen $1B + movies in that list for sure.

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/most-anticipated-movies-of-2023/

 

 

 

Looking back to 1990, there are only 3 films with top 10 finishes in consecutive years (not including 2019/2020 for obvious reasons)....

 

Spider-Man: No Way Home 

#1 in 2021 -- #7 in 2022 (so far, will likely finish #9 or #10)

 

Avatar 

#2 in 2009 -- #2 in 2010

 

Titanic 
#5 in 1997 -- #1 in 1998

 

 

 

[interiorgatordecorator]

7 hours ago, IronJimbo said:

Could Avatar 2 be the highest grossing movie of 2022 and 2023? If you split it's gross into the calender years?

 

Assuming avatar 2 is not too frontloaded it probably can

1.5 billion should be enough for the 2022 ww crown, avatar 1 did 1 billion in 19 days without china, meaning that if it performs similarly it just needs china to do 500 million in 16 days (doable I think) to reach 1.5 billion

1.2 billion might be enough for the 2023 crown

2.7 is all it probably needs to achieve that, just a question of how its distributed, 3 billion gives it a lot more wiggle room

Just a question of how frontloaded it is

Edited October 8, 2022 by interiorgatordecorator

[Deuce66]

 

 

 

 

[hw64]

2 hours ago, Wolverpool XXR said:

 

 

Looking back to 1990, there are only 3 films with top 10 finishes in consecutive years (not including 2019/2020 for obvious reasons)....

 

Spider-Man: No Way Home 

#1 in 2021 -- #7 in 2022 (so far, will likely finish #9 or #10)

 

Avatar 

#2 in 2009 -- #2 in 2010

 

Titanic 
#5 in 1997 -- #1 in 1998

 

Impossible for Avatar to be #2 in 2009 and 2010 as the highest-grossing films of those years were Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince with $934m and Toy Story 3 with $1.067b respectively, which would cap Avatar's gross at under $2b.

 

Pretty sure it was the 5th highest-grossing film of calendar year 2009 with circa-$800m through New Year's Eve, and then obviously the highest-grossing film of calendar year 2010 with nearly $2b. The same is true domestically: Avatar was 5th of calendar year 2009, and 1st of calendar year 2010.

 

Edit: could've actually been 4th for 2009 and 1st for 2010. Its gross through Wednesday, December 30th 2009 was $794.1m, and it made $14.7m domestically on New Year's Eve for a total of $808.8m. Would've needed around $27.5m overseas on New Year's Eve to upend Revenge of the Fallen's $836.3m total, and it made $36.9m overseas on December 30th. New Year's Eve would have seen a dip overseas, but that's still potentially possible.

Edited October 8, 2022 by hw64

[XXR & Friends]

16 minutes ago, hw64 said:

 

Impossible for Avatar to be #2 in 2009 and 2010 as the highest-grossing films of those years were Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince with $934m and Toy Story 3 with $1.067b respectively, which would cap Avatar's gross at under $2b.

 

Pretty sure it was the 5th highest-grossing film of calendar year 2009 with circa-$800m through New Year's Eve, and then obviously the highest-grossing film of calendar year 2010 with nearly $2b. The same is true domestically: Avatar was 5th of calendar year 2009, and 1st of calendar year 2010.

 

Edit: could've actually been 4th for 2009 and 1st for 2010. Its gross through Wednesday, December 30th 2009 was $794.1m, and it made $14.7m domestically on New Year's Eve for a total of $808.8m. Would've needed around $27.5m overseas on New Year's Eve to upend Revenge of the Fallen's $836.3m total, and it made $36.9m overseas on December 30th. New Year's Eve would have seen a dip overseas, but that's still potentially possible.

 

My rankings were domestic. Not sure were your domestic numbers are coming from though. It finished 2nd to Transformers ROTF in 2009 and 2nd to Toy Story 3 in 2010. 

EDIT: How odd. The-Numbers 2009 totals don't match up with what Avatar actually made in its first 14 days nor do its 2010 totals. Why are box office sites so useless sometimes? 

 

https://www.the-numbers.com/market/2009/summary

Edited October 8, 2022 by Wolverpool XXR

[hw64]

11 minutes ago, Wolverpool XXR said:

 

My rankings were domestic. Not sure were your domestic numbers are coming from though. It finished 2nd to Transformers ROTF in 2009 and 2nd to Toy Story 3 in 2010. 

EDIT: How odd. The-Numbers 2009 totals don't match up with what Avatar actually made in its first 14 days nor do its 2010 totals. Why are box office sites so useless sometimes? 

 

https://www.the-numbers.com/market/2009/summary

 

The Numbers seems to calculates its "years" as the period through the Sunday of the last week of the year, even if that week partially rolls into the next year. So they've taken Avatar's 2009 gross to be its gross through Sunday, January 3rd, rather than through Thursday, December 31st.

 

But yeah, can't trust any of them in general any more — always cross-reference.

[Maggie]

I still think this does 800M+ considering how barren this winter is gonna be. and i think it will not be that frontloaded. There are many people who don't know this is coming, so i expect wom to spread

[Deuce66]

Avatar finished in 6th place Domestic this weekend. $72 million worldwide so far, that's good enough for 35th place in 2022 bumping The Northman. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Stewart]

Just randomly found this audience reaction from Paris to the first release of the teaser trailer (before a dolby showing of something, not Avatar 1). The atmosphere is just electric and hype inducing, and when they go absolutely silent before the title appears at the end... 

 

just thought y'all might enjoy

 

 

[Deuce66]

On 10/10/2022 at 7:32 PM, Stewart said:

Just randomly found this audience reaction from Paris to the first release of the teaser trailer (before a dolby showing of something, not Avatar 1). The atmosphere is just electric and hype inducing, and when they go absolutely silent before the title appears at the end... 

 

just thought y'all might enjoy

 

 

 

France LOVES Avatar, Way of Water will explode over there.

 

[Deuce66]

The re-release of Avatar is officially done tomorrow in my area and I assume the rest of the country. $72.7 million to date - mission accomplished I think. 

 

The Avatar re-release did multiples of the following re-releases combined (Spider-Man NWH, Jaws, E.T., Rogue One, The Godfather) they grossed just under $22 million combined. 

[SchumacherFTW]

22 minutes ago, Deuce66 said:

The re-release of Avatar is officially done tomorrow in my area and I assume the rest of the country. $72.7 million to date - mission accomplished I think. 

 

The Avatar re-release did multiples of the following re-releases combined (Spider-Man NWH, Jaws, E.T., Rogue One, The Godfather) they grossed just under $22 million combined. 

It's hard to compare the Avatar rerelease with the others. NWH isn't even a year old, Rogue One was IMAX only, and the others have been consistently in some form of theatrical rotation for the best part of 40 years. 

[adaros]

Even through IMAX 3D tickets here in EU country are selling good (checked todays last screenings) they are taking it out tomorrow and replacing with all Amsterdam. 

[dudalb]

On 10/5/2022 at 8:51 AM, Borobudur said:

I hope Russia-Ukraine war can quickly ended and outcome favouring Ukraine, that will send every non-USD currency especially EUR into high fly zone. 

The war will not end anytime soon, and  even then there is no guarantee a end to the war would send currencies high, given other problems.

[IronJimbo]

Watching Avatar in IMAX 3D made me somehow more resolute in my conviction. we are in the decade of Avatar and no one can stop it. It will be bigger than star wars was due to it's global appeal.

[marveldcfox]

Two months until Avatar 2. They really need to start marketing this to the general public and ofcourse social media. 

First and foremost unleash a brand spankin new epic trailer followed by posters.

 

Common disney and 20th. Wake up.