Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[Alexdube]

On 9/2/2020 at 12:45 PM, hw64 said:

 

Is that even happening still? I'm guessing Mulan might have taken over those plans

[Avatree]

17 minutes ago, Alexdube said:

Is that even happening still? I'm guessing Mulan might have taken over those plans

Don't think Mulan has taken over anything.

[Alexdube]

2 hours ago, Avatree said:

Don't think Mulan has taken over anything.

I mean it's doing terribly, but wasn't the release date of Mulan announced after the  news there would be an Avatar re-release in September? I'm just guessing a major Disney release could change plans

[IronJimbo]

@Gavin Feng

 

when is Avatar getting it's re-release?

[doublejack]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time Avatar was re-released in China it made something like $1.5M. Odds of retaking #1 look low.

 

Also, it was re-released in New Zealand in August. The total haul was $92, according to BOM.

[Deuce66]

Jon Landau.

 

Garrett Warren, 2nd Unit Director, gives stuntman Steve Brown some notes before a take. Garrett, Richard Bluck (2nd Unit DP) and the Kiwi team have been getting some great shots. Keep it up.

 

[WittyUsername]

When I got the notification for this thread, I initially assumed that this movie must’ve been pushed back yet again. 

[titanic2187]

20 hours ago, doublejack said:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time Avatar was re-released in China it made something like $1.5M. Odds of retaking #1 look low.

 

Also, it was re-released in New Zealand in August. The total haul was $92, according to BOM.

I know you are referring BoM's number but Avatar was never re-released in any scale in China. The Jan2010 was the sole run.

 

I checked back the date and the news in Mandarin back in 2010, nothing was mentioned about re-release box office number except the news confirming the special edition will not be released in China.

https://ent.qq.com/a/20100710/000030.htm.       

 

So I have no idea how did BoM get that 1.5m although on and off , there was some special screening held on the limited basis like the one during Shanghai Film festival 2018 , where they had James Cameron's film marathon.    

[titanic2187]

Also, I just realised given the Covid-19 situation, many studio are now cutting the number of big event movie or at least reluctantly green light them. Avatar 2 could have little competition in a year by 2022.  

[hw64]

21 hours ago, doublejack said:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time Avatar was re-released in China it made something like $1.5M. Odds of retaking #1 look low.

Avatar has never been re-released in China, unless you're talking about the 2010 extended edition release 5 months after it initially left theaters, which is an awful comparable for obvious reasons. Edit: as above, per @titanic2187, the 2010 extended edition was never released in China - BOM's data is inaccurate.

 

If you want to look at potential comparables, you should be looking at how the recent Hollywood re-releases have been performing in China: the first Harry Potter, as one example, made over $27m in its re-release. If we compare this to the success of the original release, the original Harry Potter made about $7m in 2001/2 in China, and the best-performing Harry Potter movie, DH2, made about $60m in China in 2011. There are obvious market expansion and ticket price/exchange rate adjustments to consider here, but what is clear is that Avatar's $200m in 2009 is orders bigger than any Harry Potter film even after such adjustments.

 

So even if you don't think Avatar will perform as well in a re-release relative to its original release as Harry Potter did (and there are certainly valid reasons to believe it won't), it's extremely unlikely, and dare I say pretty much impossible, for a proper re-release of Avatar in China not to gross the $7.4m extra it needs to become the highest-grossing movie again.

 

21 hours ago, doublejack said:

Also, it was re-released in New Zealand in August. The total haul was $92, according to BOM.

From a single theater. I believe the planned New Zealand re-release was effectively cancelled when New Zealand went back into lockdown in the middle of last month. A movie playing in a single theater isn't a re-release.

Edited September 23, 2020 by hw64

[Alexdube]

Cameron did an interview with Arnold

 

They are 100% done with the live-action shooting on Avatar 2 and around 95% done on Avatar 3

 

the bit about Avatar is around 9:41:

 

 

[Sheldon Cr]

On 9/22/2020 at 5:25 PM, IronJimbo said:

@Gavin Feng

 

when is Avatar getting it's re-release?

With this pandemic thats proably delayed a bit as well. Iron jim. Good morning panderians. I am here. I suspect Avatar re release next year if enough theaters are reopened. I think around 1300-1500 theaters are open in USA. Any new numbers posted domestically for theater count s? Wishing our Avatar family blessings from the most high and stay safe. Noticed. Aquaman postponed as well and Dune till 2021 October

KalofBom

Edited October 7, 2020 by Sheldon Cr
Just updating

[Sheldon Cr]

On 9/23/2020 at 2:20 PM, titanic2187 said:

Also, I just realised given the Covid-19 situation, many studio are now cutting the number of big event movie or at least reluctantly green light them. Avatar 2 could have little competition in a year by 2022.  

Ahh love your picture titan fan. Yes indeed hoping we get theaters open in 2022. Avatar 2 is still my long most anticipated top law dog film to see Titanic2187. Are you going to see this one in 4dx? This is my plan and for some reason I still think Avatar 2 will take the box office to new heights yet again. Lets rock..4dx combine with Cameron's all new tech and movie sequences going to make the other films get chewed up and used as ju ju beans!! Colonel Quadrix approves this message! Lol💪

[Sheldon Cr]

On 9/23/2020 at 10:12 PM, Alexdube said:

Cameron did an interview with Arnold

 

They are 100% done with the live-action shooting on Avatar 2 and around 95% done on Avatar 3

 

the bit about Avatar is around 9:41:

 

 

Thanks for post Alex. Will check it out.

[Sheldon Cr]

Here are some of the early predicts so far. Everyone please help me update👍

 

Avatar 2 Dec 17th, 2021

 

Kal...1.12b dom, 3.8b OS( Really would love Avatar2 to hit 1bil to 1.2 bil or

 

Better from China alone)

 

4.8B WW

 

Ncsoft... 3.7Bww

 

 

 

Jimbo...1.3B dom , 

 

5.7b OS, 7B WW

 

Keysersoze123

600 Domestic /1.2B OS -C / 700M C - 2.5B WW

Pure spirit

 

low-end:

 

550M DOM

 

$2B OS - China

 

$600M China

 

 

 

$3.15B total, assuming significant drop off from the first after accounting for inflation plus foreign market growth

 

(Nice one Pure Spirit I hope

 

we reach your highend predict or far more fellow Pandorian)

 

Pure Spirits High-end :

 

$1B DOM

 

$3B OS - China

 

$1.1B China

 

$5.1B total

 

Charlie Jatender

 

China: 700 

Domestic: $500mn (The Lion King level)

 

Overseas: $1100mn (Slightly better than The Lion King in some markets)

 

China: $500mn 

 

Total: $2100mn.



 

Headshot-- 1.3 billion max. It's actually going to do even less than that.

 

500 OS

 

250 DOM

 

400 China 

 

 

 

/\ Bold on this predict😱😂

 

 

 

Raul B. :

 

$550M China

 

$900M OS - CHN

 

 

$2B worldwide

 

Jim Scholar:

 

domestic:

 

2.5b , 10B ww( wow JCS-I want your predict to happen!!)

 

Updated 10/07/2020

 

[cdsacken]

Well suffice to say I think movie theaters are going to hurt for a long time, I'm talking 5 years and then some.

 

No chance in hell of this hitting 3 billion but dear god be a huge successful. The world needs it. For the love of God stop delaying it

[Avatree]

IMO this could get delayed further. Depends on how quickly the box office recovers. This is Disney's biggest, most valuable release that's currently scheduled (i.e. within the next 5 years). If they think it won't make its full potential in 2022 then I would expect them to move it. It's much easier to move than other movies in current ongoing franchises (which is why it's been moved so much already)

 

With that being said, I would think box office should be really strong in 2022. 2021 will definitely be taking a hit but vaccine will have everything sorted by some point in 2021.

 

The coronavirus will not be a concern in 2022; the concern will be, "do people still want to go to the cinema, now that they've experienced extended period of no cinema?" do they think they get better value by PVOD? 

 

 

Edited October 7, 2020 by Avatree

[WittyUsername]

If COVID completely blows over by 2022, then I see no reason why this should get delayed again. Of course, I’m not very optimistic about what the state of movie theaters will be by that point. 

[Deuce66]

Jon Landau,

 

From New Zealand, a glimpse of a small part of the Science Lab set, a key facility at the RDA’s new Bridgehead installation.

 

[doublejack]

With Disney's reorg and new emphasis, what are the odds that this debuts on D+?