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[filmlover]

Fantastic Beasts is never going to overcome the stigma of being a Harry Potter movie without Harry Potter (or any of the other beloved characters, for that matter).

[lilmac]

Looks like TFA is engendering good will among casual fans and audiences (like what was done with Jurassic World). 

 

Star Wars now equals mainstream quality entertainment. More and more people are bought into the world (I'm talking about folks outside of its huge fanbase).

 

Rogue One will feed off of TFA's success so I think $200m is the floor. Too early to say if $300m is a lock...it still has to be good in its own right for that to happen.

 

 

Rogue One - $290m dom

Fantastic Beasts - $260m dom

[lilmac]

7 hours ago, Orestes said:

Gonna go with Rogue One. If Vader is in it, and the advertising doesn't try to mystery box that shit, it could/should have the edge.

 

Regarding the mystery box...I didn't get the sense in the last six weeks anyway that there was a big cover-up campaign for TFA. If anything, I thought the advertising was excessive. 

[Klingo]

Fantastic what?

[Shaldun]

Hard to tell without more footage from both (and even just footage from Rogue One). 

 

But like that, I would say Rogue One. It will ride the goodwill vibe of TFA and won't be tarnished by the endless stream of SW movies since it will be only the first spin-off. Will probably do 400M+ DOM and if it's good, 450M+ or 500M+. OS might be a little more disputed (we'll wait to see how China reacts to TFA but Asia doesn't seem as successfull than the rest of the world for the Force) but I still think Rogue One would win. 

 

But yeah I don't really pronounce now without seeing more. If Fantastics Beasts has a great marketing (and can convey the Wizarding World feeling and feel different from the HP movies) and good reviews, it can go really high. Let's not forget how big Harry Potter was, it's definitively a match for any superhero or Star Wars. But this is not Harry Potter just his world, will it work as much ? 

[kitik]

On Sunday, December 20, 2015 2:02:26, lilmac said:

Rogue One will feed off of TFA's success so I think $200m is the floor. Too early to say if $300m is a lock...it still has to be good in its own right for that to happen.

 

 

Rogue One - $290m dom

Fantastic Beasts - $260m dom

 

At first I thought you meant 200 OW. But 290 final? That's crazy. Rogue One is going to have a huge opening weekend, plus the usual holiday legs. It's not going to be a Hobbit-level disappointment.

 

[DarthWalker]

Rouge one easy

As much as I like hp Fantastic beasts is a pointless cash grab

[Clef Ment]

Easily Rogue One.

[grey ghost]

Rogue One

[Dark 33Legend of the Sith]

On 12/19/2015, 3:47:44, Noctis said:

The spin-offs to the two biggest franchises will be released next year. Who do you guys think will come out on top? I feel like Rogue One will win domestically but worldwide and overseas will go to Fantastic Beasts.

 

Noctis, out of curiosity, how excited are you and what are your thoughts on a Potter spinoff?  Is your anticipation similar to the previous Potters?

[Noctis]

1 hour ago, Dark 33Legend of the Sith said:

 

Noctis, out of curiosity, how excited are you and what are your thoughts on a Potter spinoff?  Is your anticipation similar to the previous Potters?

 

I'm excited, and I'm sure I'll even be more excited when we see more footage. But it doesn't compare to the Potters. On the other hand, not knowing what's gonna happen will make things different.

[Halba]

this looks fucking epic. it will break the record for highest grossing superhero film(avengers 1 @ 1.6bn)

[DMan7]

59 minutes ago, Halba said:

this looks fucking epic. it will break the record for highest grossing superhero film(avengers 1 @ 1.6bn)

 

 

[Warmaster506]

Everyone I know can't wait to see this. Several lady friends can't wait to finally see WW.  Keep underestimating this film Marvel fans. 

[Spidey Freak]

That CW trailer didn't really do much to excite folks. I can see why even Bourne beat it on a most anticipated list.

[TalismanRing]

17 hours ago, Spidey Freak said:

That CW trailer didn't really do much to excite folks. I can see why even Bourne beat it on a most anticipated list.

 

Yet the CW trailer was far better received than the latest BvS trailer which managed to do quite a bit to un-excite folks.  

 

Last year's Fandango Most Anticipated list had JW 5th after MJ Part 2 and 50 Shades.  FF7 didn't make the list.  Pan was on the Most Anticipated Family Film list.   Angelina Jolie and Halle Berry made top 5 2015 actress for By The Sea & Kidnap....

 

In 2014 it underachiever How To Train Your Dragon 2 was the most anticipated Family Film and the top 5 most anticipated were

 

MJ Part 1

Hobbit

DOFP

ASM 2

Divergent

 

No Cap 2, No GOTG

 

Edited January 6, 2016 by TalismanRing

[Spidey Freak]

2 hours ago, TalismanRing said:

 

Yet the CW trailer was far better received than the latest BvS trailer which managed to do quite a bit to un-excite folks.  

 

Last year's Fandango Most Anticipated list had JW 5th after MJ Part 2 and 50 Shades.  FF7 didn't make the list.  Pan was on the Most Anticipated Family Film list.   Angelina Jolie and Halle Berry made top 5 2015 actress for By The Sea & Kidnap....

 

In 2014 it underachiever How To Train Your Dragon 2 was the most anticipated Family Film and the top 5 most anticipated were

 

MJ Part 1

Hobbit

DOFP

ASM 2

Divergent

 

No Cap 2, No GOTG

 

 

LMAO keep telling yourself that about the new trailer even as crowds cheer on Wonder Woman before the SW7 showings. 

 

Also, Cap 2 didn't outperform DOFP and Hobbit to that extent despite its Avengers connections, Natasha basically being a co-lead and good reviews. A major reason why they are once again shoehorning half of the Avengers roster plus Panther and Spidey into the third film. Seems like they just don't think Steve can carry a movie on his own.

 

ASM2 received an opening that was on par with Cap 2 and DOFP (could have been higher if not for the rotten reviews) and then had weak legs because of its actual quality. GotG was a brand new property which was why it didn't make the list (also why Suicide Squad, Deadpool and Doctor Strange aren't there, despite Harley and Deadpool being in the Top 3 most anticipated characters list along with Wondy).

 

It doesn't seem a completely unbiased poll, and it doesn't take into consideration major factors like mid to late schedule marketing, reviews, and WOM generated by actual movie quality, but it never claimed that in the first place. Nor what I mentioned.

[Kraken]

Both suck. Give me Fox's mutants, tyvm. After the dark ages of X3 and Origins they are the one series that actually knows how to be fun (unlike DC) and have proper themes and arcs (unlike Marvel).

[The Futurist]

Just now, somebody85 said:

Batman still reminds me of one of the fakes in hockey pads in the beginning of TDK. 

 

Holy shit, I couldn't tell the vibe his costume gave me.

So much this.

[The Futurist]

What was the exact nature of people s problems with Man of Steel ?

 

I genuinely don't really know.

 

Apart for the too much destruction porn whining at the end, what people didn't like in this movie ?

 

Editing ?

The writing ?

The Acting ?

All of the above ?