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1 minute ago, grim22 said:

The theme of summer seems to be "These movies would have been considered big successes... If not for the budget". Tarzan, Ghostbusters and now Star Trek all falling into that category.

GB problem seems to be the shit results OS. Same with Star Trek. Tarzan is doing ok everywhere. Ok is not enough for a 180M budget.

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3 minutes ago, CJohn said:

GB problem seems to be the shit results OS. Same with Star Trek. Tarzan is doing ok everywhere. Ok is not enough for a 180M budget.

 

Yeah, Ghostbusters looks like 150M OS max, most people predicted this - Ghostbusters was never a big OS franchise. Tarzan seems to have caught on well with audiences despite no one feeling strongly about it.

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4 minutes ago, grim22 said:

 

Yeah, Ghostbusters looks like 150M OS max, most people predicted this - Ghostbusters was never a big OS franchise. Tarzan seems to have caught on well with audiences despite no one feeling strongly about it.

It doesn't help that besides Hemsworth nobody knows who those people are OS.

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1 hour ago, Telemachos said:

 

Despite TASM2's underperformance, it was still profitable for them. And, once profitable, any library title is basically a low-level license to print money -- especially when it's part of a franchise and helps drive money to all the other related titles.

 

 

TASM 2 was profitable, but the profit was really low and laughable if compared to the ammount of money they spent to promte this movie ( some sources say 470 million production budget )

 

You don't spend that money to get a profit of 70 million.

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Lol at some of the comments in this thread.  Paramount can't afford to do another movie because it cost a lot yet was profitable..... ummmm....ok.

 

This isn't like TASM2 "profit" where Sony knew damn well the franchise was dead in the water without handing it over to Marvel and Disney.  They knew if they made another one there likely wasn't going to be profit or it would have done so much damage that it impacted the entire franchise for decades.  

 

Star Trek Beyond is completely different.  Yes, it had a high budget and yes it might not match the financials of 09 and STID, but it will still make a damn good profit and the reviews and WOM indicate that moving forward the new movies and cast will continue to make quality product and a healthy profit.  

 

Could they trim the budget?  Do they need to make sure they don't increase the budget?  Sure, but that won't be hard to do moving forward.  

 

Someone made a good comparison to the Fast and Furious franchise, and there are some parallels going on with both.  I think one of the reasons also mentioned is that JJ Abrams and Paramount screwed up very badly when they re-launched the series in 09 to great box office and reviews but then for some idiotic reason sat on it 5 years and made a lifeless sequel.  Now they made a fun 3rd movie, have great review and what seems like a solid idea for a 4th film.  They are going to get it into production and release it 2 years from now.  That could really keep the momentum going.  

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6 hours ago, sfran43 said:

Honestly, that X-Men number is still pretty impressive to me. Mediocre trailers and AWFUL pre-release buzz, but still did 66M 3-Day? I didn't even realize it was that popular haha

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2 hours ago, Elessar said:

 

What are you talking about? Trek IS going back to TV. But that is separate from the movie business.

 

 

I meant move back to Tv permanently. Until at least they figure out how to keep the budgets under control 

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6 hours ago, ThatOneTrek said:

I think the next month will have a 30M+ opener each week:
 

July 29: Jason Bourne, Bad Moms

August 5: Motherfucking Suicide Squad

August 12: Pete's Dragon, Sausage Party

August 19: War Dogs, potential surprise from Ben-Hur, potentially Kubo if Pete's doesn't slow it down too much

LOL, of these three, the only one that has a slight shot IS Kubo. Still see it only coming in at 25M, War Dogs and Ben-Hur look like total bombs

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Star Trek did just fine. It helps that Paramount has nothing else, but Star Trek 4 should happen. Hopefully they'll hire someone better at marketing so we get more stuff like this:

 

 

 

 

And less like this:

 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Blanks McCoy said:

LOL, of these three, the only one that has a slight shot IS Kubo. Still see it only coming in at 25M, War Dogs and Ben-Hur look like total bombs

25 would be great for Kubo, think it can get near 100 off that. 

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