Jandrew Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Oh Lord, no, please no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 45 minutes ago, jandrew said: Oh Lord, no, please no. Spoiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTJeff Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 9 hours ago, Grand Moff Tele said: I agree with you. My point of comparison wasn't any ethical/moral clarity, but that both books contain a ton of characters and occasionally labyrinthian cultural/historical references that could be overwhelming to a viewer. I felt Peter Jackson did a great job of suggesting and hinting at a rich, detailed, lived-in universe filled with history, but only hit key points that pertained to the actual story unfolding. I feel like that approach could work for DUNE as well. At this point, I think audiences are well-prepared to accept occasional moral ambiguity from their protagonists. And I think -- at least in terms of the first novel -- that the DUNE story unfolds in a relatively clear way. If we start getting into GOD EMPEROR OF DUNE, then yeah, I have a hard time seeing how that could work. You say but look how whiny everyone is getting over Passengers and the questionable decision made in the film by Chris Pratt's character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 1 minute ago, UTJeff said: You say but look how whiny everyone is getting over Passengers and the questionable decision made in the film by Chris Pratt's character. I can't comment specifically on it since I haven't seen the movie, but my bet is that the issue isn't necessarily the decision, but how it (and the fallout) are portrayed. As a counter, look at all the recent war movies in the last 20-30 years that show soldiers committing morally questionable actions. Again, I think some of our on-going conversation is because I'm thinking primarily of the first book -- arguably the most accessible -- and you're looking at the whole Herbert-authored saga (I think, right?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTJeff Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Grand Moff Tele said: I can't comment specifically on it since I haven't seen the movie, but my bet is that the issue isn't necessarily the decision, but how it (and the fallout) are portrayed. As a counter, look at all the recent war movies in the last 20-30 years that show soldiers committing morally questionable actions. Again, I think some of our on-going conversation is because I'm thinking primarily of the first book -- arguably the most accessible -- and you're looking at the whole Herbert-authored saga (I think, right?). I think war movies are a little different though. And now we live in this PC, safe-space, trigger-leery culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 7 minutes ago, UTJeff said: I think war movies are a little different though. And now we live in this PC, safe-space, trigger-leery culture. But DUNE's kind of a war movie too. Sometimes a proxy war, sometimes a political war, but sometimes an out-and-out fighting war too. Anyways, I guess we'll see how it all shakes out. It's quite possible they skirt their way around some of the more problematic areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPink Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 On 12/21/2016 at 6:26 PM, Jake Gittes said: Three major sci-fi movies in a row, two of them huge nerd properties, the man really is gonna have as many insufferable fanboys as Nolan does now. Ah, the passage of time. And some of us are gonna be there stubbornly arguing that Enemy and Sicario are still his best work, dammit. I thought you liked me Jake 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAtGender Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I should probably read this at some point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 8 hours ago, MrPink said: I thought you liked me Jake It's ok Pink, your #2 boy is gonna rake in the cash so when he finally has a bomb, he does it in style 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTJeff Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 On 12/24/2016 at 0:21 AM, DamienRoc said: I should probably read this at some point. Just read the first book and none of the sequels or prequels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merkel Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 For sure, skip the prequels, but everything written by Frank Herbert is worthwhile. God Emperor of Dune is fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraken Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Awesome book. Great director. Get Amy Adams to play Jessica! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Ryan Gosling for Feyd Rautha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTJeff Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Gosling is kind of old for Feyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 21 minutes ago, UTJeff said: Gosling is kind of old for Feyd. Yeah, on second thought, you're right. Dammit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTJeff Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) Feyd's of a similar age to Paul Atreides. Paul is actually at 15 at the start of the book and 18 midway through. I think Feyd is about 16-ish. Edited December 27, 2016 by UTJeff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, UTJeff said: Feyd's of a similar age to Paul Atreides. Paul is actually at 15 at the start of the book and 18 midway through. I think Feyd is about 16-ish. Yes, though I wouldn't be surprised if they cheat their ages up a bit for the assumed movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTJeff Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 5 hours ago, Grand Moff Tele said: Yes, though I wouldn't be surprised if they cheat their ages up a bit for the assumed movie. It's fine. Just don't cast a bunch of 32-35 year olds to play 18 year olds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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