The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[filmlover]

21 minutes ago, Boxofficerules said:

Now that Jumanji is set to bomb can we discuss Black Christmas bring number 1? $30 million plus? Over or under?

Can always rely on you to stan for these no1curr lame-looking horror movies.

[XXRDJisDoctorDoom]

54 minutes ago, Boxofficerules said:

Now that Jumanji is set to bomb can we discuss Black Christmas bring number 1? $30 million plus? Over or under?

 

BC has currently sold 4 tickets at my theater for the entire weekend.

 

It's going to open closer to $3 million than $30 million.

[Boxofficerules]

31 minutes ago, VenomXXR said:

 

BC has currently sold 4 tickets at my theater for the entire weekend.

 

It's going to open closer to $3 million than $30 million.

Walk ups

[Inceptionzq]

On 12/7/2019 at 12:45 PM, Inceptionzq said:

The Rise of Skywalker Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

1776

3153

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

1810

3926

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
9410	78	22870	41.15%	9	182

 

Final Frozen 2 count comp: 22.84M

Final Maleficent count comp: 26.69M

Final IT 2 count comp: 25.45M

Final Hobbs count comp: 26.60M

Adjusted final OUATiH count comp: 27.25M

Final Lion King count comp: 28.53M

 

Average: 26.23M

The Rise of Skywalker Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

1797

3153

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

1816

3926

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
9551	141	22870	41.76%	9	182

 

Final Frozen 2 count comp: 23.18M

Final Maleficent count comp: 27.09M

Final IT 2 count comp: 25.83M

Final Hobbs count comp: 27M

Adjusted final OUATiH count comp: 27.64M

Final Lion King count comp: 28.95M

 

Average: 26.62M

 

This is a great jump, but keep in mind that I had to count about 3 hours earlier than usual yesterday. So this is 27 hours vs yesterday's 21.

[Boxofficerules]

2 hours ago, VenomXXR said:

 

BC has currently sold 4 tickets at my theater for the entire weekend.

 

It's going to open closer to $3 million than $30 million.

Box office Pro have predicted about a $15 million opening, that’s like 5 times $3 million

[XXRDJisDoctorDoom]

11 minutes ago, Boxofficerules said:

Box office Pro have predicted about a $15 million opening, that’s like 5 times $3 million

Closer to $3m than $30m, like I said. 

[Inceptionzq]

On 12/7/2019 at 1:06 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Jumanji: The Next Level Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

74

1686

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

80

1610

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
273	46	11405	2.39%	9	58

 

Frozen 2 comp: 1.50M

Terminator comp: 4.31M

Adjusted Maleficent comp: 2.84M

Adjusted Zombieland 2 comp: 2.77M

Adjusted Gemini Man comp: 2.43M

Hobbs comp: 4.01M

Lion King comp: 2.05M

Jumanji: The Next Level Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

89

1686

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

94

1610

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
313	40	11405	2.74%	9	58

 

Frozen 2 comp: 1.56M

Terminator comp: 3.87M

Adjusted Maleficent comp: 2.86M

Adjusted Zombieland 2 comp: 2.73M

Adjusted Gemini Man comp: 2.42M

Hobbs comp: 4M

Lion King comp: 2.16M

 

Same thing as TRoS, this is 27 hours vs yesterday's 21 hours. Probably not a good thing that most of the comps are pretty flat from yesterday. I would've liked to have seen some more movement upwards

[ZackM]

Jumanji: The Next Level Various theater chains (Michigan) Premiere Night Seat Report: T-4 days and counting
	Last Day	2 Days Ago	3 Days Ago	4 Days Ago	5 Days Ago
Showings Added	0	0	0	0	19
Seats Added	0	0	0	0	5,717
Seats Sold	59	33	17	42	181
12/8/2019	Showings	Seats Left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Pct. Sold
Total	98	20,394	20,922	528	2.52%

[ZackM]

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Various theater chains (Michigan) Premiere Night Seat Report: T-11 days and counting
	Last Day	2 Days Ago	3 Days Ago	4 Days Ago	5 Days Ago
Showings Added	0	0	2	0	0
Seats Added	22	9	175	8	4
Seats Sold	249	163	229	253	220
12/8/2019	Showings	Seats Left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Pct. Sold
Total	239	26,634	42,133	15,499	36.79%
% of Seats Sold	Sellouts	90%+	80%+	70%+	60%+
# of Showings	10	26	50	73	91

Edited December 9, 2019 by ZackM
Added sellouts

[keysersoze123]

On 12/7/2019 at 4:54 PM, keysersoze123 said:

Jumanji 2 Previews (T-5)

MTC1 Prev - overall 1568 shows 11419/334260 197108.91 +1487
MTC2 Prev - overall 2675 shows 6370/436429 79809.00  +1196

 

Good increase at least at MTC2. Overall we are in wait mode until wednesday. At this point at least at MTC1 its ahead of Mal 2. I am thinking 3m previews can happen. Let us see how things go.

 

Jumanji 2 Previews (T-4)

MTC1 Prev - overall 1568 shows 14105/334199 241387.45 +2686
MTC2 Prev - overall 2673 shows 7650/436175 95454.00 +1280

 

Definitely accelerating at MTC1 after a slow day yesterday. let us hope for the pace to increase even more starting tomorrow.

[charlie Jatinder]

I used to wonder, why DC films are more previews loaded than MCU. I think the reason is headstart DC had in films breakout with Batman films in late 1989. The then kids were in their late 20s or early 30s in 2008, explain the preview heavy TDK as the 20-30s are the audience for Thursday nights.

 

MCU is there now, after 11 years inception, we are at stage that kids of 10-15 in 2008 are in mid 20s now.

[Eric Prime]

Jumanji: The Next Level Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-4 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	68	201	15,850	1.27%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 19

 

Comp

1.031x of Maleficent 5 days before release (2.37M)

0.135x of Frozen II (1.15M)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.354x of Hobbs & Shaw (2.05M)

 

Definitely not impressed with today. We'll see if the next couple days really improve these prospects.

[Eric Prime]

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-11 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	2	168	10,649	31,446	33.86%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 128

 

Comp

5.599x of Once Upon’s final count (32.47M)

3.074x of It: Chapter Two (32.28M)

2.169x of Joker (28.84M)

15.278x of Maleficent (35.14M)

12.226x of Terminator (28.73M)

3.168x of Frozen II (26.93M)

 

Adjusted Comp

0.939x of Lion King (21.61M)

4.458x of Hobbs & Shaw (25.86M)

 

I'll admit I am a touch disappointed at that number, but it's not a dealbreaker or anything.

[keysersoze123]

On 12/7/2019 at 8:46 PM, keysersoze123 said:

SW9 Previews (T-12)

MTC1 Prev - overall 5152 shows 329083/859475 4906468.95 +3715
MTC2 Prev - overall 3089 shows 218172/450996 2764970.00  +3012

 

Good day. Stronger than yesterday. I am hoping for at least 5K starting monday next.

SW9 (T-11)

MTC1 Prev - overall 5155 shows 334059/859712 4977678.19  +4976
MTC2 Prev - overall 3093 shows 221490/451563 2804730.00 +3318
MTC1 OD - overall 5368 shows 249370/1094552 3873060.63 +16338 ( 3 days)
MTC2 OD - overall 4369 shows 187686/715555 2100107.00 +12102 ( 3 days)

 

Good acceleration from yesterday. Should definitely go over 5K tomorrow at MTC1. Hopefully closer to 6K. I ideally wanted to run entire weekend but the scrapper has been really slow. So just updated OD as well. Excellent increase over past 3 days. As expected pace is stronger than preview sales over past 3 days.

[Porthos]

The Rise of Skywalker Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-11 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	4*	210	9996	24504	14508	59.21%

* NOTE:  If a showing only has wheelchair and/or wheelchair companion seats left, it is counted as a sellout

 

Total Sellouts Added Today	1
Total Seats Sold Today	198

 

T-11 Adjusted Comp #1 (EXTREMELY LOL FOR CM - DON'T USE THERE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

	%		Sold T-11	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
CM	339.17		82	4085		2/87	6845/10930	37.37%		70.21m
EG	74.49		109	18601		11/243	5975/24576	75.69%		44.69m
TROS (adj)	n/a		189	13855		4/210	9401/23256	59.58%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Captain Marvel and Endgame. 

THEATER NOTE: If a theater in the region was not open for the above movies but is for TROS it WILL be counted as part of this adjustment.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  TROS had 60 days of pre-sales while Endgame had 24 days of pre-sales.

 

T-11 Adjusted Comp #2 (VERY LOL - DON'T USE FOR MUCH OF ANYTHING)

	%		Sold T-11	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
IW	155.58		57	7873		3/118	3422/11295	69.70%		60.68m
Solo	359.84		48	3404		1/87	5944/9348	36.41%		50.74m
TROS (adj)	n/a		148	12249		4/210	6890/19139	64.00%		n/a

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: TROS (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for Infinity War and Solo.

THEATER NOTE: If a theater in the region was not open for the above movies but is for TROS it WILL be counted as part of this adjustment.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  TROS had 60 days of pre-sales while Infinity War had 42 days of pre-sales and Solo 21 days of pre-sales.

 

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Comps so far off of Final Totals (spoilered for space)

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	%		Final Sold		TROS Sold		Comp
DP2	150.61		8133		12249		28.01m
Solo	211.59		5789		12249		29.83m
JW:FK	196.68		6228		12249		30.09m
AM&tW	265.99		4605		12249		30.22m
Venom	286.82		4493		12887		28.68m
CM	131.29		10553		13855		27.18m
EG	51.98		26655		13855		31.19m
TLK	126.22		10977		13855		29.03m
It 2	256.37		5659		14508		26.92m
AVG							29.06m

NOTE: FINAL SOLD is the amount of tickets sold at stop of tracking for the given movie and TROS SOLD is the amount of tickets sold so far at the same theaters I had tracking info for the movie in question.

 

===

 

Simply a fantastic day in Sacto today, driven in large parts by spikes at a couple of the Regals and showings after 10pm filling up across the board.  Best day in town since the third day of pre-sales (TROS today sold two more tickets than it did on the fourth day of pre-sales).

 

Sacto may be overperforming, but it's still chugging along here, with little end in sight.

 

NB:  Don't read too much into that EG day-to-day comp.  There was over 75% of all tickets sold at that time for EG AND a lot of those were at crappy theaters and/or crappy showtimes, so only so much blood could be squeezed from that stone.  Still, the comp is the comp and it's still good for TROS.  Just... keep it in perspective.  

Edited December 9, 2019 by Porthos
bad grammar fixed

[keysersoze123]

Loving the direction of EG comps. It should go up and up.

[Porthos]

24 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Loving the direction of EG comps. It should go up and up.

Well, inch up and up.  When literally thousands of tickets have been sold for both films, a difference of 50 to 70 tickets only does so much.

 

Still better up than down, I agree.  

 

(sorry, my natural in-built caution/conservatism at play here. )

Edited December 9, 2019 by Porthos

[keysersoze123]

1 minute ago, Porthos said:

Well, inch up and up.  When literally thousands of tickets have been sold for both films, a difference of 50 to 70 tickets only does so much.

 

Still better up than down, I agree.  

 

(sorry, my natural in-built caution/conservatism at play here. )

we are in the final turn. That pace will also go up big time. There is more room to grow.

 

Anyway Its just relative number. I am only looking at 50m previews. So its not about beating Endgame but getting closer.

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

3 hours ago, Jedi Jat said:

I used to wonder, why DC films are more previews loaded than MCU. I think the reason is headstart DC had in films breakout with Batman films in late 1989. The then kids were in their late 20s or early 30s in 2008, explain the preview heavy TDK as the 20-30s are the audience for Thursday nights.

 

MCU is there now, after 11 years inception, we are at stage that kids of 10-15 in 2008 are in mid 20s now.

Certainly.

 

The reason DC was seen as more popular than Marvel is because of the big budget media presence that it had since the 70s and 80s whereas Marvel was struggling to get things made to the point where they sold it for pennies on the dollar, basically begging studios to make it for them. Just like Feige said that Disney buying them was the best thing that happened to them, Warner buying DC was the best thing that happened to them. 

[StarWarsMemer]

IW has a higher percentage of seats sold than TRoS in Sacramento, yet TRoS is 50%+ bigger in amount of tickets sold