The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Mulder]

30 minutes ago, Minnale101 said:

Godzilla really needs to start picking it up 

[Minnale101]

9 minutes ago, Mulder said:

I’m a warner bros fanboy 🙂

 

i was talking about pulse lol. 11 days out 

[Mulder]

9 hours ago, Mulder said:

First count of today, only Thursdays-

Godzilla: KoTM-125 (+2), 8 screenings (3 IMAX, 3 3D, 2 Regular)

Aladdin-111 (+1), 7 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 3D, 2 Regular+Fan Screening) Final week

Dark Phoenix-63 (+1)

 

Oh Aladdin...

Final count of today, only Thursdays-

Godzilla: KoTM-125 (+2), 8 screenings (3 IMAX, 3 3D, 2 Regular)

Aladdin-119 (+9), 7 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 3D, 2 Regular+Fan Screening) Final week

Dark Phoenix-64 (+2), 6 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 3D, 2 Regular+Fan Screening)

 

Slow day for KoTM and Dark Phoenix. I'll save my thoughts for Aladdin once I can comp it with Wick but...mmm. 

[Mulder]

2 minutes ago, Mulder said:

Final count of today, only Thursdays-

Godzilla: KoTM-125 (+2), 8 screenings (3 IMAX, 3 3D, 2 Regular)

Aladdin-119 (+9), 7 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 3D, 2 Regular+Fan Screening) Final week

Dark Phoenix-64 (+2), 6 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 3D, 2 Regular+Fan Screening)

 

Slow day for KoTM and Dark Phoenix. I'll save my thoughts for Aladdin once I can comp it with Wick but...mmm. 

 

On 5/13/2019 at 12:00 AM, Mulder said:

Final count of today, only Thursdays-

Godzilla: KoTM-87 (+21), 8 screenings (3 IMAX, 3 3D, 2 Regular) Third Day

Aladdin-81 (+9), 7 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 3D, 2 Regular+Fan Screening)

John Wick-136 (+21), 4 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 Regular) Final week

 

KoTM and John Wick both had really good days today, KoTM not slowing down much at all and John Wick picking up speed as it's final week continues. Hoping it can beat Pikachu within the next three days but we'll see. Aladdin had a decent day after all, finally selling some tickets but KoTM is still ahead of it. In total today Aladdin sold 9 tickets and both John Wick and Godzilla sold 21 tickets.

Nvm Aladdin's increase was fucking horrible.

[Mulder]

On 5/5/2019 at 12:10 AM, Mulder said:

Final count of today, only Thursdays-

Aladdin-67 (+9), 7 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 3D, 2 Regular+Fan Screening)

Detective Pikachu-126 (+9), 6 screenings (3 3D, 3 Regular) Final Week

John Wick-75, 4 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 Regular)

 

So final days worth is Aladdin sold 9 tickets today vs the 11 I counted earlier but I might've miscounted there, Pikachu's starting to pick up as it needed to selling 9 tickets today. John Wick didn't sell any today but seeing how insane it's past two days were it was due to slow down.

 

13 minutes ago, Mulder said:

Final count of today, only Thursdays-

Godzilla: KoTM-125 (+2), 8 screenings (3 IMAX, 3 3D, 2 Regular)

Aladdin-119 (+9), 7 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 3D, 2 Regular+Fan Screening) Final week

Dark Phoenix-64 (+2), 6 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 3D, 2 Regular+Fan Screening)

 

Slow day for KoTM and Dark Phoenix. I'll save my thoughts for Aladdin once I can comp it with Wick but...mmm. 

Curious how Pikachu's final Sunday went and well...it's identical to Aladdin except Pikachu was 7 tickets ahead of it. Doesn't bode well for Aladdin.

[Porthos]

Aladdin Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-4 Days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	74	9457	10718*	11.77%

NOTE: Some theaters adjusted the seats available for purchase resulting in a loss of four seats overall.

 

 

Total Seats Sold Today:                   128

 

The best comp I have so far is Detective Pikachu.  I also have less ideal comps with Solo (for Memorial Day Weekend like-for-like), JW2 and FB2.  Use the later comps with caution.

 

Unadjusted Comps

1.1668x as many tickets sold as Detective Pikachu 4 days before release. 

PRE-SALES NOTE:  [Pika Pika had 29 days of pre-sales while Aladdin had 24]

 

T-5:

Pika:     110  tickets sold  [0 sellouts/62 showings   |  6217/7464 seats left   | 16.71% sold]

 

Adjusted Comps

.3249x as many tickets sold as Solo 4 days before release.

.5440x as many tickets sold as Fallen Kingdom 4 days before release.

.5004x as many tickets sold as Crimes of Grindelwald 4 days before release.

PRE-SALES NOTE: Solo had 20 days of pre-sales, JW2 had 22 days of pre-sales and FB2 had 30 days of pre-sales while Aladdin had 24.

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: If a theater locally that is now selling tickets for reserved seating was selling them for the above movies, but as non-reserved seating for that movie, it is not counted toward the ratio of 'as many tickets sold' for the movie in question.  If a theater is brand new to the region and wasn't yet open for one of the above movies, however, it will be counted toward the ratio.  It will also be counted toward the ratio if it was playing in a different number of theaters locally.

T-4 days:

Solo              151 tickets sold [0 sellouts/92 showings   |   6077/10146 seats left | 40.10% sold]

JW2               220 tickets sold [0 sellouts/111 showings |   8833/11263 seats left | 21.58% sold]

Aladdin (JW)  110 tickets sold [0 sellouts/81 showings   |   8727/10049 seats left | 13.16% sold]

FB2               146 tickets sold [0 sellouts/98 showings   | 10691/13377 seats left | 20.08% sold] 

Aladdin (FB)  112 tickets sold [0 sellouts/81 showings   |   9139/10483 seats left | 12.82% sold]  

*  Aladdin (JW) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Fallen Kingdom and Solo

**Aladdin (FB) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Crimes of Grindelwald

[Porthos]

King of the Monsters Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-11 Days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	90	11367	12129*	6.28%

*NOTE: Some theaters adjusted the seats available for purchase resulting in a loss of three seats overall.

 

Total Seats Sold Today:                     45

 

IMO, the best comp of movies I have tracked will be Fallen Kingdom.  I also have comps with the Aladdin (still in pre-sales) and Detective Pikachu as something as a compare/contrast with current May movies.  They may not be as good comps, being in different genres.

 

Unadjusted Comps

1.2303x as many tickets sold as Detective Pikachu 11 days before release. 

0.8457x as many tickets sold as Aladdin 11 days before release.

PRE-SALES NOTE:  [Pika Pika had 29 days of pre-sales and Aladdin had 24 while King of the Monsters had 20 days of pre-sales]

 

T-11:

Pika        38  tickets sold  [0 sellouts/75 showings   |  8030/8648 seats left   |  7.15% sold]

Aladdin   38 tickets sold  [0 sellouts/70 showings   |  9096/9997 seats left   |  9.01% sold]

 

Adjusted Comps

.4421x as many tickets sold as Fallen Kingdom 11 days before release.       

PRE-SALES NOTE: JW2 had 22 days of pre-sales while KotM had 20.  Also some theaters had KotM tickets on sale for a few days before they were officially announced to the public for sale. 

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: If a theater locally that is now selling tickets for reserved seating was selling them for the above movies, but as non-reserved seating for that movie, it is not counted toward the ratio of 'as many tickets sold' for the movie in question.  If a theater is brand new to the region and wasn't yet open for one of the above movies, however, it will be counted toward the ratio.  It will also be counted toward the ratio if it was playing in a different number of theaters locally.

 

T-11:

JW2               76 tickets sold [0 sellouts/97 showings   |   8507/10113 seats left   |  15.88% sold]

KotM (JW)      33 tickets sold [0 sellouts/90 showings   | 10367/11077 seats left   |    6.41% sold]

KotM (JW) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Fallen Kingdom.

[Porthos]

Far From Home Greater Sacramento Area MIDNIGHT SCREENINGS Seat Report: T-43 Days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	14	2112	2344*	10.05%

NOTE: Some theaters adjusted the seats available for purchase resulting in a loss of five seats overall.

 

Total Seats Sold Since Thr:                 4

 

No comps at the moment. 

 

Next update: Thr 5/23

[Porthos]

Some notes on all three flicks.

 

Aladdin recovered from yesterday locally, but still is only pacing at a bit higher than Pikachu.  But it ain't collapsing, so there's that at least.  Also is stubbornly doing 50% of JW:FK.  Might just end up in the 7m range on preview night after all.  Absolutely no guarantees though.

 

KotM did not see any bump whatsoever from its World Premiere, not that I was really expecting one after looking at Fandango all day.  Sorry, @Mulder and @Brainbug

 

Still, "doing what it needs to do" really is the catch phrase of this movie so far.  Next breakout potential might be after the 22nd and those screenings that are happening.  But still no sign of major expansion off of "what it needs to do" yet locally.

 

As for FFH?  Well, here are the last six days of sales locally:

 

T-48:  3
T-47: -2
T-46:  0
T-45:  4
T-44:  0
T-43:  0

 

Yeah.

 

Might shift to once a week if this keeps up.  See how I feel on Thr.

Edited May 20, 2019 by Porthos

[Mulder]

Just now, Porthos said:

Some notes on all three flicks.

 

Aladdin recovered from yesterday locally, but still is only pacing at a bit higher than Pikachu.  But it ain't collapsing, so there's that at least.  Also is stubbornly doing 50% of JW:FK.  Might just end up in the 7m range on preview night after all.  Absolutely no guarantees though.

 

KotM did not see any bump whatsoever from its World Premiere, not that I was really expecting one after looking at Fandango all day.  Sorry, @Mulder and @Brainbug

 

Still, "doing what it needs to do" really is the catch phrase of this movie so far.  Next breakout potential might be after the 22nd and those screenings that are happen.  But still no sign of major expansion yet locally.

 

As for FFH?  Well, here are the last six days of sales locally:

 

T-48:  3
T-47: -2
T-46:  0
T-45:  4
T-44:  0
T-43:  0

 

Yeah.

 

Might shift to once a week if this keeps up.  See how I feel on Thr.

The world premiere ended up not having many reactions actually which I think is why it didn't really do anything for KOTM. I saw about like...5? Maybe 6? I feel like the screenings on the 22nd will be where you get more reactions from. Hopefully that'll cause a bump. If it's the same as this time reaction wise, it'll probably have to wait until we get ((Hopefully good)) reviews to either make or break it's final days.

[Mulder]

Just now, Mulder said:

The world premiere ended up not having many reactions actually which I think is why it didn't really do anything for KOTM. I saw about like...5? Maybe 6? I feel like the screenings on the 22nd will be where you get more reactions from. Hopefully that'll cause a bump. If it's the same as this time reaction wise, it'll probably have to wait until we get ((Hopefully good)) reviews to either make or break it's final days.

Oh yeah it being a black carpet vs a red carpet is probably why there wasn't that many critics there in hindsight.

[McClintonforThree]

 

 

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23 hours ago, McClintonforThree said:

Only Thursdays

Orange Park AMC

Aladdin - 141 (+6), 8 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 1 3D, 2 Regular, 1 Fan Event)

Godzilla KOTM - 108 (+4), 7 screenings (2 IMAX, 1 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular)

Rocketman - 25 (N/A), 3 screenings (1 Dolby, 2 Regular

SLOP2 - 0 (0), 2 screenings (2 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 86 (+2), 8 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular, 1 Fan Event)

 

Decided to do Rocketman too cause why not? Dark Phoenix has slowed considerably. Aladdin is doing ok. Godzilla is still chugging along. Hopefully it gets a bump from the premier. SLOP2 is still dead.

Regency AMC

Aladdin - 221 (+19), 8 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular)

Godzilla KOTM - 137 (+9), 10 screenings (3 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 3 Regular)

Rocketman - 18 (N/A), 3 screenings (1 Dolby, 2 Regular)

SLOP2 - 4 (+2), 5 screenings (2 3D, 3 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 108 (0), 8 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular, 1 Fan Event)

 

Added the smaller theater in my area too. 

Epic Theatres at Oakleaf

Aladdin - 55, 2 screenings (2 Regular)

Godzilla KOTM - 16, 3 screenings (3 Epic XL)

Rocketman - 0, 2 screenings (2 Regular)

SLOP2 - 4, 3 screenings (3 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 0, 2 screenings (2 Regular)

Only Thursdays

Orange Park AMC

Aladdin - 141 (0), 8 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 1 3D, 2 Regular, 1 Fan Event)

Godzilla KOTM - 117 (+9), 7 screenings (2 IMAX, 1 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular)

Rocketman - 25 (0), 3 screenings (1 Dolby, 2 Regular

SLOP2 - 0 (0), 2 screenings (2 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 89 (+3), 8 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular, 1 Fan Event)

 

I counted twice but Aladdin literally sold 0 tickets today at the OP AMC. Yikes. Rocketman and SLOP2 also put up goose-eggs. Dark Phoenix has still slowed. KOTM had a great day with 9 tickets sold.

 

Regency AMC

Aladdin - 251 (+30), 8 screenings (2 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular)

Godzilla KOTM - 141 (+4), 10 screenings (3 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 3 Regular)

Rocketman - 19 (+1), 3 screenings (1 Dolby, 2 Regular)

SLOP2 - 5 (+1), 5 screenings (2 3D, 3 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 115 (+7), 8 screenings (1 IMAX, 2 Dolby, 2 3D, 2 Regular, 1 Fan Event)

 

Regency's Aladdin numbers keep going up by the bucketload. KOTM had a slower day and Dark Phoenix had a nice pick-me-up. SLOP2 and Rocketman both got 1 ticket.

 

Epic Theatres at Oakleaf

Aladdin - 59 (+4), 2 screenings (2 Regular)

Godzilla KOTM - 16 (0), 3 screenings (3 Epic XL)

Rocketman - 0 (0), 2 screenings (2 Regular)

SLOP2 - 4 (0), 3 screenings (3 Regular)

Dark Phoenix - 0 (0), 2 screenings (2 Regular)

 

Doesn't look like Oakleaf preorders too far out.

 

NewVision 12 at Fleming Island

Aladdin - 10 , 4 screenings (2 3D, 2 Regular)

Godzilla KOTM - 4 , 3 screenings (3 Regular)

Rocketman - 0 , 0 screenings

SLOP2 - 0 , 0 screenings

Dark Phoenix - 1 , 2 screenings (2 Regular)

 

Didn't realize the theater closest to me started doing seat reservations til today so I'll start keeping track of that theater too.

[Eric the Fall Guy]

[Eric the Fall Guy]

Movie/Date

Monday

Tuesday

Wednesday

Thursday

Friday

Saturday

Sunday

Aladdin	1,725	2,022	2,236	1,760	1,375	1,577	3,989
	11 days	10 days	9 days	8 days	7 days	6 days	5 days
Pets 2 Early	312	294	331	357	307	254	452
	12 days	11 days	10 days	9 days	8 days	7 days	6 days
Godzilla	2,389	1,052	1,019	769	607	456	746
	18 days	17 days	16 days	15 days	14 days	13 days	12 days
Secret Life of Pets 2	64	52	64	54	48	29	65
	25 days	24 days	23 days	22 days	21 days	20 days	19 days
Dark Phoenix	1,976	686	543	334	229	231	282
	25 days	24 days	23 days	22 days	21 days	20 days	19 days
Spider-Man FFH	795	556	461	354	290	192	316
	50 days	49 days	48 days	47 days	46 days	45 days	44 days

 

Aladdin

Last 7 Days (11-5)

47% of Incredibles 2 (85.4M)

330% of Lego 2 (112.8M)

231% of Dragon 3 (127.3M)

305% of Dumbo (140.2M)

201% of Shazam (107.4M)

 

Days 18-5

47% of Incredibles 2 (86.9M)

307% of Lego 2 (104.7M)

209% of Dragon 3 (115.2M)

246% of Dumbo (113.4M)

207% of Shazam (111M)

 

Days 23-5 (minus 21-19)

187% of Shazam (100.4M)

322% of Lego 2 (110M)

 

Days 25-5

50% of Incredibles 2 (90.8M)

217% of Dragon 3 (119.6M)

 

This is still an interesting conundrum. Everything here points to great results, but the only one that could be considered "lacking" is Incredibles, which is arguably the most fitting comp at the moment. Then there's the issue of whether this is pointing towards the 3-Day or the 4-Day. In fact, is Aladdin's holiday weekend inflating things? And people are reporting presales at their specific theater are anemic. I...I don't know. I just don't know. We've been arguing about this movie for weeks now, and I feel like no matter what we argue, we're just running in circles. I feel like we're just not going to know until this actually opens. Maybe this week will give greater clarity?

 

Pets 2 Early Access

Last 7 Days (12-6)

28% of Dragon 3 Early Access (703K)

 

There's no sugarcoating this. The presales right now are incredibly soft. And there isn't a major theater difference. I checked some articles, and Pets 2 is doing these shows at around 1,200 theaters, which is about 200 more than Dragon. Either this is a sign people aren't eager to check this one out early, or interest is incredibly low for the movie as a whole.

 

Godzilla

Last 7 Days (18-12)

32% of Captain Marvel (48.9M)

 

Days 25-12

33% of Captain Marvel (51.3M)

 

Again, still don't have a perfect comp just yet. I'll probably look into Fallen Kingdom's pre-sales during the week so that I can have something that actually works. But yeah, seems pretty solid thus far.

 

Pets 2

Last 7 Days (25-19)

324% of Hotel 3 (142.9M)

62% of The Grinch (41.6M)

 

Still a little too early at the moment to really decipher anything. Hotel 3 started out very soft, which could be explained due to it opening tickets the Monday following Incredibles weekend, which probably caused an Endgame style cap to all movies. Grinch is different, opening in a deader period, and using that comp....yeesh. Hopefully next week paints a clearer picture.

 

Dark Phoenix

Last 7 Days (25-19)

42% of Captain Marvel (64.3M)

 

Day 31-19

26% of Captain Marvel (39.7M)

 

Same movie, two completely different comps.  This is another "way too early" film to decipher anything out of this. But hey, seems alright.

 

Far From Home

Last 7 Days (50-44)

81% of Captain Marvel (123.6M)

 

Day 57-44

211% of Captain Marvel (324.6M)

 

Yeah, still not really moving the needle in any way. And of course, super early, blah blah blah

[Mulder]

Out of likes but thanks CoolEric! Aladdin sure is a conundrum. 

[Minnale101]

The secret of life of pets 2 it’s sure is interesting 

 

trailers weren’t even bad. I do think the first one  over performed due to lack of competition in July 2016 and this one movie has a lot more competition 

[Porthos]

@CoolEric258 Any chance you might be able to do a "Last Seven Days" comp (or something similar) with Solo and Aladdin sometime tomorrow?  Solo was pretty damn flat by that point, so the inherent SW pre-sale advantage might not be there and it could be an interesting MDW for MDW look.

 

If it's too much work or you have too little time (or both) please never mind the request.

Edited May 20, 2019 by Porthos

[Nova]

I want to clarify something. The Thursday numbers at my theater for Aladdin aren’t bad. They’re just not pointing towards a $100M+ 3 day opener either. 

 

I would agree with @Porthos that the preview number is probably looking at $7M. Personally my theater comps have it at $6.7M. Which isn’t a bad number at all. But it’s also not a number that would indicate a $100M+ 3 day opener. So out of curiosity, I checked Monday at my theater and it’s sold way more tickets than a typical 3 day opener would on its first Monday. So at least at my theater I can say that a good portion of tickets have been sold for Memorial Day. 

[Cookson]

 Remember Godzilla is really the first big Hollywood disaster film of the summer. I think it’ll be very walk up Heavy just like its predecessors 

Edited May 20, 2019 by Cookson

[VanillaSkies]

Aladdin hits movietickets top 5 at #5 with 3.8% on Monday, first update of the day.

Also growing quite a bit on Fandango. Good signs so far.