The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Cappoedameron]

22 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

Did you not see what happened to Birds Of Prey last week, a movie that had zero competition to deal with?

Birds of Prey is entirely different situation. The marketing for that film was atrocious and led to many controversial headlines that turned people off from the film. They also screwed up entirely by making it Rated R when a lot of Harley's demographic is teens. Many poor decisions resulted in Birds of Prey's poor box office performance.

 

 

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Who's to say it wouldn't perform just fine amongst that crowd of competition anyway? You act as if this Valentine's Day/President's Day frame is the film's savior.

History and what actually happened. Sonic is looking towards a 45 million opening weekend. 55 with Presidents day added to that. Pikachu did 55 million on it's 3 day OW. Without President's Day Sonic would be opening at 45 million.

 

The following week if Sonic was in Pika's slot was JW3 followed by Aladdin followed by Godzilla. It would not have survived.

 

The other savior of this film is the poor release slots around it. The worst grossing DCEU film, a pixar film with barely any buzz, and a movie that is targeted at a country that doesn't care about going to the movies at the moment cause of a health crisis and it's turned off a lot of people domestically cause it's erasure of many things that made the original film what it was.

Edited February 14, 2020 by Cappoedameron

[Eric Prime]

@Cappoedameron you are derailing the thread. Please stop fighting over which movie is more successful

[YM!]

47 minutes ago, Cappoedameron said:

Literally the only place where Pika's numbers are considered disappointment is this forum. Anywhere else the film is considered a success. Sonic wouldn't survive where Pikachu was and that's a fact. 

 

DP was on track with what WB predicted it would make and it was easily there most successful non R rated film of the year.

 

Anyways Paramount needs this cause they haven't gotten much in the W column and this is a breathe of fresh air for them.

Coming from one of the people who overestimated Pikachu, the expectations for both pre release were different. Let’s get back on topic or move the conversation to a different thread.

Edited February 14, 2020 by YourMother the Edgelord

[MCKillswitch123]

22 minutes ago, Cappoedameron said:

Birds of Prey is entirely different situation. The marketing for that film was atrocious and led to many controversial headlines that turned people off from the film. They also screwed up entirely by making it Rated R when a lot of Harley's demographic is teens. Many poor decisions resulted in Birds of Prey's poor box office performance.

 

 

History and what actually happened. Sonic is looking towards a 45 million opening weekend. 55 with Presidents day added to that. Pikachu did 55 million on it's 3 day OW. Without President's Day Sonic would be opening at 45 million.

 

The following week if Sonic was in Pika's slot was JW3 followed by Aladdin followed by Godzilla. It would not have survived.

 

The other savior of this film is the poor release slots around it. The worst grossing DCEU film, a pixar film with barely any buzz, and a movie that is targeted at a country that doesn't care about going to the movies at the moment cause of a health crisis and it's turned off a lot of people domestically cause it's erasure of many things that made the original film what it was.

Birds Of Prey is proof that you can and will bomb if the circumstances go wrong for you no matter what date the movie comes out on. Sonic came out one week later and it's doing just fine. That's my point.

 

Sonic is currently tracking at a 19-20M true Friday according to @cJS. That means Friday without previews. Which would put it at a 22-23M OD, higher than Pikachu, so no, it's not trending under Pikachu. It will likely open above it if that stays. Deadline's report is a massive lowball.

 

JW3 doesn't appeal to the same demographic and neither does Godzilla. Aladdin would be competition but it was a breakout that hit higher than expected numbers, therefore, Sonic would be perfectly able to co-exist. See also: Jumanji and Dolittle dropping just fine on this weekend of Sonic's release. Pika meanwhile was naturally frontloaded due to the amount of fan rush it had. Sonic would maybe have a lower OW but better legs.

 

You keep pushing the narrative that the focus should be on Paramount getting a win, which is not untrue, but it's so fucking obvious that you are butthurt beyond recognition that Sonic could outopen Pika that you're leaving yourself open to be ridicularized about your own ridiculousness.

Edited February 14, 2020 by MCKillswitch123

[Eric Prime]

@MCKillswitch123 you are not off the hook either. I want everyone to stop this Pikachu vs. Sonic debate right now or face consequences

[MCKillswitch123]

4 minutes ago, Eric the Hedgehog said:

@MCKillswitch123 you are not off the hook either. I want everyone to stop this Pikachu vs. Sonic debate right now or face consequences

I apologize and will no longer go off-topic.

[Minnale101]

Omg it’s been 9 months. Capp ain’t changed a bit lmao

[ZackM]

Sonic - MTC4 Opening Weekend Seat Report: D-1
	Last Day	2 Days Ago	3 Days Ago	4 Days Ago	5 Days Ago
Shows Added	9	29	96	-	-
Seats Added	725	5,941	26,352	-	-
Seats Sold	15,558	5,178	2,892	-	-
	Shows w/o Reserved Seats	Shows w/ Reserved Seats	Seats Left	Total Seats	Matinee	Evening	Total Sold	Pct. Sold
D-0 (Final)	205	90	8,235	11,169	-	2,934	2,934	26.27%
D-1 (8PM EST)	399	266	42,744	60,052	5,408	11,900	17,308	28.82%
D-2	550	341	63,978	67,953	2,561	1,414	3,975	5.85%
D-3	517	311	61,584	63,189	1,135	470	1,605	2.54%
Total	1,671	1,008	176,541	202,363	9,104	16,718	25,822	12.76%

Sales have really picked up this evening.

 

Edited February 15, 2020 by ZackM

[Eric Prime]

Onward Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-20 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	44	42	8,937	0.47%

 

Total Shows Added Today: 4

Total Seats Added Today: 510

Total Seats Sold Today: 12

 

Comp

0.412x of Maleficent 20 days before release (947K)
1.400x of Dolittle (1.29M)

1.077x of Sonic (3.23M)

 

Not a bad second day. Sonic got about 11 tickets at literally the exact point in time (20 days before release, second day I was tracking pre-sales, though Sonic was out a bit longer). Sonic went low for the next couple days, before gradually increasing, so we'll see how this fares in the future.

[Eric Prime]

F9 Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-97 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	52	364	12,658	2.88%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 5

 

Wow, something happened!

[DAJK]

6 hours ago, Eric the Hedgehog said:

@MCKillswitch123 you are not off the hook either. I want everyone to stop this Pikachu vs. Sonic debate right now or face consequences

Apologies, I contributed as well earlier

[ZackM]

3 hours ago, ZackM said:

Sonic - MTC4 Opening Weekend Seat Report: D-1
	Last Day	2 Days Ago	3 Days Ago	4 Days Ago	5 Days Ago
Shows Added	9	29	96	-	-
Seats Added	725	5,941	26,352	-	-
Seats Sold	15,558	5,178	2,892	-	-
	Shows w/o Reserved Seats	Shows w/ Reserved Seats	Seats Left	Total Seats	Matinee	Evening	Total Sold	Pct. Sold
D-0 (Final)	205	90	8,235	11,169	-	2,934	2,934	26.27%
D-1 (8PM EST)	399	266	42,744	60,052	5,408	11,900	17,308	28.82%
D-2	550	341	63,978	67,953	2,561	1,414	3,975	5.85%
D-3	517	311	61,584	63,189	1,135	470	1,605	2.54%
Total	1,671	1,008	176,541	202,363	9,104	16,718	25,822	12.76%

Sales have really picked up this evening.

 

Up to 20,170 as of 11:45PM EST for D-1.  I'll have the final number in the morning.

[Tinalera]

Numbers looking good for Sonic. 60 plus would be impressive. 

[Boxofficerules]

Any early numbers for The Invisible Man? Or The Boy 2?

[narniadis]

26 minutes ago, Boxofficerules said:

Any early numbers for The Invisible Man? Or The Boy 2?

Nothing yet, and doubtful that the major players will sniff at tracking Boy 2. 

I believe that Invisible Man just went on sale and theres been too many other things to track. 

Patience Horror aficionado, the day will come. 

[Inceptionzq]

On 2/14/2020 at 2:39 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Onward Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

5

1434

0.35%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

7

1610

0.43%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
33	N/A	7694	0.43%	9	40

Onward Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

5

1434

0.35%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

7

1610

0.43%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
35	5	7694	0.45%	9	40

 

Sold seats removed: 3

 

Adjusted Maleficent comp on its second day of PS: 1.53M

Edited February 15, 2020 by Inceptionzq

[john2000]

1 hour ago, Inceptionzq said:

Onward Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

5

1434

0.35%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

7

1610

0.43%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
35	5	7694	0.45%	9	40

 

Sold seats removed: 3

 

Adjusted Maleficent comp: 755K

 

Maleficent already had been on sale for a while up to this point, so take the comp as you will.

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[Inceptionzq]

8 minutes ago, john2000 said:

?

Gonna have to be a little more specific

[john2000]

6 minutes ago, Inceptionzq said:

Gonna have to be a little more specific

i mean so this comp isnt very good comparison ?

 

[keysersoze123]

Onward(T-18)

MTC1 - overall 1059 shows 3065/219745 56591.19 47425.04

MTC2 - overall 1109 shows 1389/188372 17702.39 12576.35

 

Not great but I have seen worse. 

 

This was Sonic's numbers on 1/28

 

Sonic MTC1 - overall 678 shows 2554/115554 40881.61 33458.37 
Sonic MTC2 - overall 992 shows 2200/156128 27271.63 19133.01 

 

So Onward is ahead of Sonic at MTC1 by 20% and it has another 2 days of PS for equivalent comp. So there is still hope for PS to ramp up once we have reviews early. Early screenings on 2/29 should also help.