Brainbug Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 24 minutes ago, feasby007 said: Yeah, I'm really shocked how low the budget on this is. The CGI looked fantastic, and yet $170m (iirc) seems so cheap nowadays! It really is a bit of a miracle. Having watched the film, it looked like a 250M dollar budget honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, Thrylos 7 said: I call bullshit on that and all the budget “info” that we have. Whatever makes some people happy I guess.... Well to fair, the reported budget of JL was reported to be $300m so you expect that to $400m? I mean if they had those kind of budgets you need 1.1B to break even, that would be insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSinister Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 29 minutes ago, Thrylos 7 said: I call bullshit on that and all the budget “info” that we have. Whatever makes some people happy I guess.... My guess is they have people who know what they’re doing for less. The Ray Harryhausen of the modern era must work there the way JP1 holds up 25 years later. Look at any other major live action cgi flick from that decade besides T2 up until The Matrix & it looks terrible. Godzilla etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrylos 7 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, pepsa said: Well to fair, the reported budget of JL was reported to be $300m so you expect that to $400m? I mean if they had those kind of budgets you need 1.1B to break even, that would be insane. No, but between 200-250 million production budget seems more realistic to me than the “its a miracle” reported budget for a movie filled with cgi effects and a hot leading star. Add to that a sizable marketing budget , the movie had a stronger marketing campaign in my country than even Deadpool 2 (while the Disney films ,solo had virtually no marketing and even IW marketing wasn’t as impressive). Of course it will make a very nice profit either way but the reported budget seems silly beyond belief and I don’t believe in “miracles”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Thrylos 7 said: No, but between 200-250 million production budget seems more realistic to me than the “its a miracle” reported budget for a movie filled with cgi effects and a hot leading star. Add to that a sizable marketing budget , the movie had a stronger marketing campaign in my country than even Deadpool 2 (while the Disney films ,solo had virtually no marketing and even IW marketing wasn’t as impressive). Of course it will make a very nice profit either way but the reported budget seems silly beyond belief and I don’t believe in “miracles”. Well the marketing budget will be $150m, that I am sure. And you have to calculate in that Pratt will take a % of the profit. So he might 'only' get $5m upfront but 5-10% of the profits. 5 - 10% could easly be an extra $15m - $30m for Pratt, if not more. The reason why I think the production budget is correct is because, what we see with movies that are flops or don't do well, most of the time they don't report PB or they under report to safe face. This movie does not have any reason to under report it's budget. Edited June 9, 2018 by pepsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 41 minutes ago, Thrylos 7 said: No, but between 200-250 million production budget seems more realistic to me than the “its a miracle” reported budget for a movie filled with cgi effects and a hot leading star. Add to that a sizable marketing budget , the movie had a stronger marketing campaign in my country than even Deadpool 2 (while the Disney films ,solo had virtually no marketing and even IW marketing wasn’t as impressive). Of course it will make a very nice profit either way but the reported budget seems silly beyond belief and I don’t believe in “miracles”. It’s not up to you lol. They haven’t released a budget yet. We’ll get one from THR, Variety and BOM when they report it. I wouldnt be surprised if it cost considerably less than Jurassic World. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrylos 7 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Krissykins said: It’s not up to you lol. They haven’t released a budget yet. We’ll get one from THR, Variety and BOM when they report it. I wouldnt be surprised if it cost considerably less than Jurassic World. Whatever makes you sleep better at nights... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Thrylos 7 said: Whatever makes you sleep better at nights... Or makes you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 34 minutes ago, pepsa said: Well the marketing budget will be $150m, that I am sure. And you have to calculate in that Pratt will take a % of the profit. So he might 'only' get $5m upfront but 5-10% of the profits. 5 - 10% could easly be an extra $15m - $30m for Pratt, if not more. The reason why I think the production budget is correct is because, what we see with movies that are flops or don't do well, most of the time they don't report PB or they under report to safe face. This movie does not have any reason to under report it's budget. https://variety.com/2018/film/news/celebrity-salaries-daniel-craig-jennifer-lawrence-leonardo-dicaprio-1202801717/ Upfront salaries: Pratt - $10m BDH - $8m As you said there's also the back end which Pratt probably gets a % of and there's also Treverrow now as producer getting a % and Bayona should be getting paid more than Treverow was for director for the first since his resume is rather more extensive and impressive. That alone would account for most of the $25m increase in budget. From the trailers the scope of the film doesn't look at large as the first in terms of sets or even amount of extras (correct me if I'm wrong) so that might offset inflation costs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 hour ago, pepsa said: Nah you said 'Flop', that is not the same 😛 This movie only needs $600m to break-even. Well it’s a flop when you compare it to the first movie - since the drop is massive. It’s all about perspective. Every movie can’t be measured the same. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Krissykins said: $400m worldwide isn’t a massive decline when it’s at this size and scale. Lol at thinking this will reach 1.2B. It will be lucky to break 1B. Also 400M is a huge decline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 53 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Well it’s a flop when you compare it to the first movie - since the drop is massive. It’s all about perspective. Every movie can’t be measured the same. Flops are measured by films that lose money and aren’t profitable. 51 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Lol at thinking this will reach 1.2B. It will be lucky to break 1B. Also 400M is a huge decline. It should still break $1bn. It still has to open in China and also the other markets the week after that which the first film made another $210m from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) @Krissykins i admire that you still reply to that troll but at this point it should be obvious that this Grace Randolph user just wants to poison the well. Anyone who names a movie a flop that will make 130-160M in the first OS weekend with only 50% of the total marketplaces is just deliberately ignoring facts or trolling. Edited June 9, 2018 by Brainbug 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigley Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Krissykins said: Or makes you 13 minutes ago, Krissykins said: Flops are measured by films that lose money and aren’t profitable. It should still break $1bn. It still has to open in China and also the other markets the week after that which the first film made another $210m from. As Brainbugsaid, just stop replying to them. No one pays attention to their comments anyway. No one will think that your arguments are any less valid because of these people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 So it had a HUGE Saturday jump in Korea with 784k admissions! Bigger than the first JW's first Sat which had 645K admissions. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oMeriMombatti Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 The current estimated international launch for Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom is $145.9M through Sunday.#JurassicWorldFallenKingdom #BoxOffice @UniversalPics @JurassicWorld— BoxOfficeReport.com (@BORReport) June 9, 2018 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 145.9M is such a specific number for estimate lol. Thinking it’ll be closer to $160M. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Sam said: 145.9M is such a specific number for estimate lol. Thinking it’ll be closer to $160M. That would be absolutely great imo. If i remember corretly, the same markets for JW gave an opening figure of 158M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Brainbug said: That would be absolutely great imo. If i remember corretly, the same markets for JW gave an opening figure of 158M. Yea but it probably won't have the legs considering World Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Just now, Godzilla said: Yea but it probably won't have the legs considering World Cup. I think youre right (audience reception might be not as hot as for JW as well), but it will be very interesting to follow because in many markets it has basically a month to itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
