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[MCKillswitch123]

2 hours ago, CJohn said:

THE FUCKING QUEEN.

 

I never had any doubts. She is way too appealing as a star. 

 

Golpe de Sorte is gonna make Na Corda Bamba and Masterchef sink next Sunday. Fully expecting under 20% share for the soap and under 15% share for Masterchef.

I agree but it's still not certain, albeit it is a strong possibility, that Golpe de Sorte Season 3 will premiere on Sunday, since they haven't announced it yet. If it does, however, it will destroy Na Corda Bamba and MasterChef for sure, even with TVI having RAP helping.

[lorddemaxus]

Can the mods seriously ban Grandierhorror from reactions? He's literally "not cool"ing every single one of my posts and it's pretty much trolling at this point.

[Morieris]

Wow, Apple brought out the heavy guns with.....Frogger on Apple Arcade.

 

When will they bring back that weird 3D pacman knockoff game I played at my grandmother's house as a kid.

 

Also;

 

 

 

[Eric Duncan]

https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/apple-tv-launch-date-1203330169/

 

We finally got new details with Apple TV+.

 

-Drops November 1st

-Priced at 4.99 per month. People who outright buy a new Apple Device gets TV+ free for a year (wow )

-Will be available on Apple devices, Samsung smart TVs, and the Web at launch. Amazon Fire TV, LG, Roku, Sony, and Vizio will come later

-No info about what will debut with the platform, but The Morning Show is probably a certainty

[RealLyre]

4.99/month sounds like a great deal until you realize they have like 4 shows on launch and no licensed liberally. 

 

 

For All Mankind looks great but not sure about the rest. 

[cannastop]

 

Come and defend Disney. I dare you.

 

[CJohn]

I will fuck with a lot of those Apple shows.

[Lordmandeep]

Seriously if people have to go back to getting 4 different subscription services to watch a show, people will go back to piracy again

[Barnack]

44 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said:

Seriously if people have to go back to getting 4 different subscription services to watch a show, people will go back to piracy again

Not sure what do you mean by going back, did they ever leave or each year's isn't the biggest year in content piracy ever ?

 

Specially since they started to make those pre made piracy box that everyone including the ederly can easily use that exploded the phenomenon in recent year's ? Streaming piracy is now 13.22 times bigger than torrent In Canada.

 

https://www.muso.com/magazine/global-piracy-increases-throughout-2017-muso-reveals/

 

 

 

https://www.todayonline.com/world/pirated-tv-shows-actively-used-spread-malware-especially-game-thrones

 

Even netflix show like Strangers Things and House of Cards show up in the most pirated tv show in the world.

 

https://advanced-television.com/2019/03/22/global-piracy-nears-190bn-visits-in-2018/

 

Similarly to 2017, the US topped the list of countries with the most visits to piracy sites (17bn) in 2018, followed by:

1. United States Of America: 17,380,038,844 (17bn visits)
2. Russian Federation: 14,468,624,277
3. Brazil: 10,283,315,744
4. India: 9,589,665,210
5. France: 7,339,837,375
6. Turkey: 7,335,249,001
7. Ukraine: 6,126,077,097
8. Indonesia: 6,075,238,380
9. United Kingdom: 5,750,562,133
10. Germany: 5,356,667,376

 

17 billion visit to a piracy site from the US in 2018, that 2.5 pirated content by weeks by house, not counting piracy made by sharing between people their downloaded content among themselve after they acquired it.

 

If it would be only 4 subscriptions and only a those price that would not more expensive than having legally FX, HBO, Amazon, Netflix etc... for your show last year.

 

 

[cannastop]

 

Kind of a badass poster for what these bands are.

[Porthos]

2 hours ago, Barnack said:

Not sure what do you mean by going back, did they ever leave or each year's isn't the biggest year in content piracy ever ?

When LMD said "people" he actually meant to say "I'll". 

 

[The Futurist]

Internet Piracy buys social peace.

 

The poor/unemployed /empoverished middle classes in the west stay at home, drugged up on tv shows/films/porn/music/video games on PC they get for free on the internet.

 

A groomed generation of Internet zombies, unable to resist or revolt, perfectly happy with this status quo.

 

If you ever wonder why governments never really tried to end mass piracy on the Internet.

 

It s the social contract/pact of the 21st century.

 

How long this scam can continue is the 1B$ question IMO. 

Edited September 11, 2019 by The Futurist

[Lordmandeep]

1 hour ago, Porthos said:

When LMD said "people" he actually meant to say "I'll". 

 

 

 

Well yeah its turning into buying cable again fuck that 

 

Like the ideal is a 20-25 dollar service where you can access everything be best

 

 

Because trust me people wont be buying 3-4 services. 

Edited September 11, 2019 by Lordmandeep

[carolwoodpr]

4 hours ago, cannastop said:

 

Kind of a badass poster for what these bands are.

I would love to go to that concert!

[cannastop]

9 minutes ago, carolwoodpr said:

I would love to go to that concert!

So would I, mostly for Weezer though. Partially Green Day too.

[Porthos]

1 hour ago, Lordmandeep said:

Well yeah its turning into buying cable again

Well, yes.  T'was inevitable, as I've said for years.

1 hour ago, Lordmandeep said:

Like the ideal is a 20-25 dollar service where you can access everything be best

Content creators gotta eat too, you know.  Something tells me that 20-25 for everything wouldn't work out very well.  Especially since basic cable was $40 a month or so when I first got into the game.

 

1 hour ago, Lordmandeep said:

Because trust me people wont be buying 3-4 services. 

I don't see why not, at least in the case of some.  People bought 3-4 premium cable nets back in the day (and still to this day).  And that's exactly what these streaming services are.  With D+'s and Hulu's aggressive price moves, they're even cheaper than some of the premium nets.

 

And the reason I think people will buy them is that for all my life I have heard that folks will pay for bundling and/or "just the packages I want" as part of the complaints against the cable package systems in the US*.

 

* I realize that bundling is far more prevalent in Canada.

 

Well the streaming revolution is basically saying "Put up or shut up".  People have said repeatedly that they'll pay for things, "but only the channels I want".  Well now, more and more, they'll get to do just that.

 

IMO what's going to happen, if anything, is either more and more people "cut the cord" entirely, or cut back on their cable packages.  That is going from expensive "tiers" to basic or basic plus and treat streaming services as their version of HBO and Showtime.

 

The other thing I see happening is folks dipping in and out of streaming services as new programs roll on and off.  And I say that because, for now at least, it is far easier to dip in and out of streaming services than it ever was for cable/satellite. 

 

So maybe folks won't "pay for three or four" streaming services all at once.  But I can see folks cycling in and out.

 

(doesn't mean that all of these streaming services will survive, but then again cable networks died all the time as well)

[DAR]

@Porthos  I’m sad.   

[Porthos]

18 minutes ago, DAR said:

@Porthos  I’m sad.   

I heard a little while ago on the Giants telecast.   My extreme condolences to all Brew Crew fans everywhere.

Edited September 11, 2019 by Porthos

[Lordmandeep]

40 minutes ago, Porthos said:

Well, yes.  T'was inevitable, as I've said for years.

Content creators gotta eat too, you know.  Something tells me that 20-25 for everything wouldn't work out very well.  Especially since basic cable was $40 a month or so when I first got into the game.

 

I don't see why not, at least in the case of some.  People bought 3-4 premium cable nets back in the day (and still to this day).  And that's exactly what these streaming services are.  With D+'s and Hulu's aggressive price moves, they're even cheaper than some of the premium nets.

 

And the reason I think people will buy them is that for all my life I have heard that folks will pay for bundling and/or "just the packages I want" as part of the complaints against the cable package systems in the US*.

 

* I realize that bundling is far more prevalent in Canada.

 

Well the streaming revolution is basically saying "Put up or shut up".  People have said repeatedly that they'll pay for things, "but only the channels I want".  Well now, more and more, they'll get to do just that.

 

IMO what's going to happen, if anything, is either more and more people "cut the cord" entirely, or cut back on their cable packages.  That is going from expensive "tiers" to basic or basic plus and treat streaming services as their version of HBO and Showtime.

 

The other thing I see happening is folks dipping in and out of streaming services as new programs roll on and off.  And I say that because, for now at least, it is far easier to dip in and out of streaming services than it ever was for cable/satellite. 

 

So maybe folks won't "pay for three or four" streaming services all at once.  But I can see folks cycling in and out.

 

(doesn't mean that all of these streaming services will survive, but then again cable networks died all the time as well)

 

You do realize that stream services have compeition against.... IPTV boxes or Android Boxes...

 

https://www.sandvine.com/hubfs/downloads/reports/internet-phenomena/sandvine-spotlight-subscription-television-piracy.pdf

 

 

The number was 6.5% in 2017 and with higher internet speeds and unlimited internet now,it likely is higher now

[Barnack]

10 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said:

 

You do realize that stream services have compeition against.... IPTV boxes or Android Boxes...

 

https://www.sandvine.com/hubfs/downloads/reports/internet-phenomena/sandvine-spotlight-subscription-television-piracy.pdf

 

 

The number was 6.5% in 2017 and with higher internet speeds and unlimited internet now,it likely is higher now

 

I think must do, people saying that people would go back to piracy has if they are not doing it now (the rating of Games Of Thrones really do not match the show popularity at all) gave the impression they do not.

 

Pay TV was a 205 billion industry, with free tv and other video it was 490 billion globally and growing.

 

OTT streaming is proposing to replace that, Netflix made 16 billion last year to give a proportion of what is in play, Americans were paying until recently at least over $100 a month ($107) for TV in average (https://fortune.com/2018/11/15/average-cable-tv-bill-cord-cutting/), I doubt the industry will ever consider changing it for 2 subscription service totaling $20 without a big fight (or becoming the Internet subscriber if people are ready to pay a lot for that).

 

The cost will probably stay a bit the same if not higher minus the saved made for infrastructure (but that client will pay on is Internet bill, still be paying), the content will be bigger and more practical in when/how/where you can watch it or there will be much less content made.

Edited September 11, 2019 by Barnack