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Weekend Thread - Insidious 29.6M, Jumanji 37.2M, TLJ 23.7M, TGS 13.8M, PP3 10.3

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TD YD Title (Click to View) Studio Daily Gross % +/- YD / LW Theaters / Avg Gross To-Date Day 1 - Insidious: The Last Key Uni. $12,743,000 - - 3,116 $4,090 $12,743,000 1 2 1 Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle Sony
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7 hours ago, jb007 said:

People without basic knowledge of box office making comical posts here is hilarious.

 

While Jumanji may be a box phenom, TLJ gross will crush it - Fact

 

So no amount of trolling posts will change that fact.

 

Most posts are not trolling (exception being that troll ForceUser from Jedi Council Forum) because they take perception into consideration. If you go only by raw numbers in a vacuum (no comparison to anything, no putting things into perspective) TLJ is a huge success cause 600M+ dom + 700M+ OS = 1.3B+ WW = huge success. However, this is just raw numbers and boxoffice run is much more than just raw numbers. Boxoffice is all about perception and current perception is that it has fallen from TFA much more than it should've had, that Jumaji is kicking its ass which is something that shouldn't have happened, that failing to hit 3x multi during the holiday season (that other mega openers such as TFA and RO managed) is a sign of mixed WOM (aka if they made a more appealing movie we wouldn't have had this conversation), that media is out to tear it down with baiting headlines that either call it a disappointment or put up a fake defense of its disappointing boxoffice run with a clear emphasis on it being a disappointment. In short, perception is that SW is no more invincible and therefore no need for competition to run away from it. Which poses a problem for IX.

 

TLJ is the first sequel ever to a 2B WW grosser and 900M dom grosser, so there's no precedent to how such a sequel would behave. We only knew it would drop but it was unknown by how much. had Avatar 2 been released before TLJ, it would have been scrutinized for drops because of the same reason - no precedent. Moreover, TLJ drop from TFA is in ESB to ANH and AOTC to TPM range, but since TFA had much bigger total, applying the same % gives a number that looks more alarming even though it's the same %. 30% drop from 90M is 30M loss, and 30M doesn't sound too bad. 30% drop from 900M is 300M loss and 300M sounds really bad even though it's the same %. It's just that bigger number itself looks more alarming even though the movie kept ESB/AOTC level of decline. OTOH, since those 2 movies were released in summer vs TLJ's holiday release, holiday was supposed to soften the drop and that didn't happen. 

 

My point is that the raw numbers in a vacuum aren't the only merit of success. No one (save that 1 troll) says that 1.3B is a disaster. It's a big success. But other aspects of the run are questionable at best and cannot be categorized as a clear success. Hence why we are having this discussion for weeks now.

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