HAN SOLO MEMORIAL (day weekend) THREAD | Solo Flops Domestically with 83M/101M weekend. Spectacularly Bombs Overseas with 65M weekend.

[The Futurist]

Venom is meta comedy a la Deadpool, right ?

[SpiritComix]

BOT has become my favorite place to talk about movies all over the internet <3. Are there problems? Of course! But there are also many good things and unique moments, like the one below:

 

SOME MONTHS AGO...

On 12/2/2017 at 8:51 PM, Jay Hollywood said:

 

Id bet the life of my entire family on it. Its IMPOSSIBLE for IW to beat TLJ. its the most impossible thing ever. 

"Its IMPOSSIBLE for IW to beat TLJ. its the most impossible thing ever."

I'm grateful that nobody made that bet with Jay...

On 12/2/2017 at 8:47 PM, Jay Hollywood said:

There is a 0% chance Avengers beats SW.

 

Just look at the months they come out. Even if the OW was higher for IW it would have no paths to beating TLJ.

 

 

 

"0% chance"

On 12/2/2017 at 9:30 PM, aabattery said:

 

It's not really an argument when Star Wars is obviously going to make more.

 

"Star Wars is obviously going to make more."

 

 

THEN...

 

3	Black Panther	BV	$698,703,242	2018
4	Titanic	Par.	$659,363,944	1997^
5	Jurassic World	Uni.	$652,270,625	2015
6	Avengers: Infinity War	BV	$626,441,638	2018
7	Marvel's The Avengers	BV	$623,357,910	2012
8	Star Wars: The Last Jedi	BV	$620,181,382	2017

 

4	Avengers: Infinity War	BV	$1,909.4	$626.4	32.8%	$1,283.0	67.2%	2018
5	Jurassic World	Uni.	$1,671.7	$652.3	39.0%	$1,019.4	61.0%	2015
6	Marvel's The Avengers	BV	$1,518.8	$623.4	41.0%	$895.5	59.0%	2012
7	Furious 7	Uni.	$1,516.0	$353.0	23.3%	$1,163.0	76.7%	2015
8	Avengers: Age of Ultron	BV	$1,405.4	$459.0	32.7%	$946.4	67.3%	2015
9	Black Panther	BV	$1,344.7	$698.7	52.0%	$646.0	48.0%	2018
10	Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2	WB	$1,341.5	$381.0	28.4%	$960.5	71.6%	2011
11	Star Wars: The Last Jedi	BV	$1,332.5	$620.2	46.5%	$712.4	53.5%	2017

 

Not only Avengers: Infinity War but also Black Panther had a bigger box office than The Last Jedi, DOM and WW, HAHAHA!

 

Actually IW WW >>> TLJ WW + Solo WW

 

Thank you BOT!

[Sam]

2 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

Venom is meta comedy a la Deadpool, right ?

It’s part of MCU per Amy Pascal (ft. Kevin Feige’s lost soul), so yes, of course. 

[WeneedtotalkaboutKevin]

"Most box-office analysts say the main problem is the fact that Solo debuted just five months after Star: Wars: The Last Jedi hit the big screen, resulting in a clear-cut case of audience fatigue with the Star Wars extended universe. "

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/will-dismal-solo-box-office-cause-disney-rethink-star-wars-strategy-1115233

 

"Most box-office analysts"...really ???

Even an indie sensation-level BOT user can tell you right away that it is mainly about the reception of The Last Jedi, not the timing...

 

[baumer]

3 hours ago, Chaz said:

Yeah, I edited. 🤣 Jennifer Lopez is the only person to have the top slot all in the same week.

 

Top slot for what?  Do you mean movie and song?  Because Eminem did that too with Lose Yourself and 8 Mile.

[GraceRandolph]

Just now, WeneedtotalkaboutKevin said:

"Most box-office analysts say the main problem is the fact that Solo debuted just five months after Star: Wars: The Last Jedi hit the big screen, resulting in a clear-cut case of audience fatigue with the Star Wars extended universe. "

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/will-dismal-solo-box-office-cause-disney-rethink-star-wars-strategy-1115233

 

"Most box-office analysts"...really ???

Even an indie sensation-level BOT user can tell you right away that it is mainly about the reception of The Last Jedi, not the timing...

 

Forget about superhero fatigue -  we have Star Wars fatigue now!

[NCsoft]

10 minutes ago, Kalo said:

So... This is where I am thinking Solo will end up...

 

1. Black Panther $700,000,000
2. Infinity War $690,000,000
3. Incredibles 2 $460,000,000
4. Jurassic World 2 $425,000,000
5. Mary Poppins Returns $325,000,000
6. The Grinch $315,000,000
7. Aquaman $300,000,000
8. Deadpool 2 $285,000,000
9. Ant-Man and the Wasp $255,000,000
10. Solo: A Star Wars Story $230,000,000
11. Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindalward $225,000,000
12. Wreck-It Ralph 2 $210,000,000
13. A Quiet Place $185,000,000 

Star Wars goes from 1# to 10# in a year... maybe.

 

Where do you think Solo will rank worldwide 2018?

[Tyrian]

1 minute ago, WeneedtotalkaboutKevin said:

"Most box-office analysts say the main problem is the fact that Solo debuted just five months after Star: Wars: The Last Jedi hit the big screen, resulting in a clear-cut case of audience fatigue with the Star Wars extended universe. "

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/will-dismal-solo-box-office-cause-disney-rethink-star-wars-strategy-1115233

 

"Most box-office analysts"...really ???

Even an indie sensation-level BOT user can tell you right away that it is mainly about the reception of The Last Jedi, not the timing...

 

[Brainbug]

Even Mendelson uses the joke LMAO:

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/05/28/box-office-solo-opens-so-low-deadpool-2-tops-500m-global/#10b8f8d876c4

 

Box Office: 'Solo' Opens So Low, 'Deadpool 2' Tops $500M Global

[Kalo]

Just now, NCsoft said:

Where do you think Solo will rank worldwide 2018?

With movies I have no idea about being released Internationally like Detective China 2...

 

[baumer]

3 hours ago, WeneedtotalkaboutKevin said:

"Most box-office analysts say the main problem is the fact that Solo debuted just five months after Star: Wars: The Last Jedi hit the big screen, resulting in a clear-cut case of audience fatigue with the Star Wars extended universe. "

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/will-dismal-solo-box-office-cause-disney-rethink-star-wars-strategy-1115233

 

"Most box-office analysts"...really ???

Even an indie sensation-level BOT user can tell you right away that it is mainly about the reception of The Last Jedi, not the timing...

 

 

It's a cornucopia of things.  TLJ divisive reception, timing, behind the scenes turmoil and so on.

[Quigley]

42 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Multipliers often get higher near the end of the run, especially with summer weekdays good WOM.   It's going to be over $640m by the end of next w/e.  There's no competition that w/e or the w/e after. It's already taken it's big hits in terms of IMX, PLF as well as two 4,000+ theater movies opening back to back with largely the same demographic.

 

36 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

As Talisman said above, a direct comparison between IW and other MCU movies cannot be made because IW released a week earlier so it is in its 5th weekend whereas the other MCU movies were in their 4th weekend. 

 

Legs off of a weekend geta better down the line so a multi off of the 5th weekend is better than the 4th. GotG2 for example had a 3.47x multi off its 5th weekend vs 2.66x from its 4th. Which weekend you then use to calculate IW’s run will give u wildly different numbers. 

 

As for 700, that was dead even before this weekend imo

 

I used the Memorial day weekend as a comparison because it is a holiday weekend and films tend to drop harder the weekend after. I doubt that using the 4th instead of the 5th weekend matters in this case as much. We'll see though.

[Thrylos 7]

22 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Solo and DP2 are slotted for 25% drops.  There's also always a NBA playoff game around now and viewership isn't big enough to affect attendance to that degree.  It's not the Super Bowl.

 

Monday, May 28, 2018
 

<<Prev Day <Wk <Mo <Yr		>Yr >Mo >Wk >>Next Day
TD YD Title (Click to View) Studio Daily Gross % +/- YD / LW Theaters / Avg Gross To-Date Day 1 1 Solo: A Star Wars Story BV $18,249,000 -25% - 4,381 $4,165 $103,000,000 4 2 2 Deadpool 2 Fox $11,550,000 -25% -4% 4,349 $2,656 $219,707,352 11 3 3 Avengers: Infinity War BV $3,812,000 -43% +41% 3,768 $1,012 $626,441,638 32 4 4 Book Club Par. $2,425,000 -36% +28% 2,810 $863 $34,884,516 11 5 5 Life of the Party WB (NL) $1,600,000 -20% +117% 2,937 $545 $40,922,348 18 6 6 Breaking In (2018) Uni. $1,437,000 -5% +144% 1,985 $724 $37,306,385 18 7 7 Show Dogs Global Road $1,300,225 - +183% 3,212 $405 $12,162,115 11 8 8 Overboard (2018) PNT $1,000,000 -14% +173% 1,196 $836 $42,494,413 25 9 9 A Quiet Place Par. $585,000 -35% +45% 1,524 $384 $180,763,607 53 10 10 RBG Magn. $298,397 -44% +97% 415 $719 $6,075,338 25 11 11 Rampage (2018) WB (NL) $260,000 -20% +65% 688 $378 $94,191,689 46 12 12 I Feel Pretty STX $140,000 -22% -6% 551 $254 $47,807,133 39

This chart , even if it’s just estimates, makes me legitimately angry. What the hell is this Monday IW drop ?  

[baumer]

3 hours ago, NCsoft said:

Where do you think Solo will rank worldwide 2018?

Number 20?

 

Solo looks like it will struggle to hit 400.

[Barnack]

6 hours ago, Darth Lehnsherr said:

I still wonder how much did Disney/Lucasfilm anticipate the reaction to TLJ. Surely with some of the story decisions regarding Luke especially that they had to have known there was going to be some push back but then again they greenlit a Rian Johnson Star Wars trilogy without him even pitching what the story was gonna be. 

Agreed to pay him couple of millions to develop one, not sure it is really greenlight.

[oMeriMombatti]

22 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Solo and DP2 are slotted for 25% drops.  There's also always a NBA playoff game around now and viewership isn't big enough to affect attendance to that degree.  It's not the Super Bowl.

 

Monday, May 28, 2018
 

<<Prev Day <Wk <Mo <Yr		>Yr >Mo >Wk >>Next Day
TD YD Title (Click to View) Studio Daily Gross % +/- YD / LW Theaters / Avg Gross To-Date Day 1 1 Solo: A Star Wars Story BV $18,249,000 -25% - 4,381 $4,165 $103,000,000 4 2 2 Deadpool 2 Fox $11,550,000 -25% -4% 4,349 $2,656 $219,707,352 11 3 3 Avengers: Infinity War BV $3,812,000 -43% +41% 3,768 $1,012 $626,441,638 32 4 4 Book Club Par. $2,425,000 -36% +28% 2,810 $863 $34,884,516 11 5 5 Life of the Party WB (NL) $1,600,000 -20% +117% 2,937 $545 $40,922,348 18 6 6 Breaking In (2018) Uni. $1,437,000 -5% +144% 1,985 $724 $37,306,385 18 7 7 Show Dogs Global Road $1,300,225 - +183% 3,212 $405 $12,162,115 11 8 8 Overboard (2018) PNT $1,000,000 -14% +173% 1,196 $836 $42,494,413 25 9 9 A Quiet Place Par. $585,000 -35% +45% 1,524 $384 $180,763,607 53 10 10 RBG Magn. $298,397 -44% +97% 415 $719 $6,075,338 25 11 11 Rampage (2018) WB (NL) $260,000 -20% +65% 688 $378 $94,191,689 46 12 12 I Feel Pretty STX $140,000 -22% -6% 551 $254 $47,807,133 39

Swap Solo's drop with AIW and Solo comes under 100M. I bet that was unsettling for them and hence it got a regular 25% drop. Sometimes you wonder how they project their Sunday and in this case Monday drops.

[Sam]

3 minutes ago, NCsoft said:

Where do you think Solo will rank worldwide 2018?

Maybe within top 20, when you count from bottom up.

[MrGlass2]

3 minutes ago, Kalo said:

With movies I have no idea about being released Internationally like Detective China 2...

 

 

Detective Chinatown 2. A little respect please, it beat Star Wars.

[NCsoft]

1 minute ago, Kalo said:

With movies I have no idea about being released Internationally like Detective China 2...

 

I figured that China can put out another 2 movies this year that grosses $500M, at the very least one.

And then looking at the level you need to reach to get to top 20 WW just last year (490M), I think Solo is probably out of the top 20 WW this year. That is going from Number 1 WW (TLJ) to possibility lower than Number 20.

[The Futurist]

The rejection of Solo OS is something else.

Whatever explanation you want to use, it is quite brutal & a bit irrational.

Good luck to the Lucasfilms Suits that will try to solve that Jigsaw puzzle since everybody has a different opinion on what they should be doing to "save" Star Wars ...

Edited May 28, 2018 by The Futurist