Weekend Thread 11/16 - 11/18 - Grindelwald $25.7M Friday, Instant Family at $4.5M Friday

[sfran43]

 

[ThomasNicole]

7 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

This preview number includes 1 extra hour of previews compared to the first movie plus fan screenings on Tuesday. My $63 million OW prediction looking good.

 

it's not

[TalismanRing]

https://deadline.com/2018/11/william-goldman-dies-oscar-writer-butch-cassidy-and-the-sundance-kid-all-the-presidents-men-1202503283/

William Goldman Dies; Oscar Winning Writer Of ‘Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid’ Was 87

An all time great - screenwriter, novelist and writer of one of if not the best books on screenwriting - Adventures in the Screen Trade

 

Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid

Marathon Man

All The President's Men

Princess Bride (novel + screenplay)

Misery

 

Great anecdote by Demme in the article about a suggestion Goldman had for Silence of The Lambs after the picture was locked

 

[75Live]

1 minute ago, sfran43 said:

 

 

@Ethan Hunt

 

there you go, so be happy

[Alli]

1 minute ago, sfran43 said:

 

 

39 minutes ago, sfran43 said:

 

my IF OVER Widows club will happen!

[TalismanRing]

2 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

AWIT is the biggest fudge in history of fudging. And it was such a tough fudge. they tried and tried and tried and tried.

Yet it still it doesn't come close to SPECTRE which made money out of no where - without even the illusion of possible double features, free/discount tickets  or even the buy a ticket get the movie in digital free (like Passengers)

 

 

[Valonqar]

1 minute ago, TalismanRing said:

Yet it still it doesn't come close to SPECTRE which made money out of no where - without even the illusion of possible double features, free/discount tickets  or even the buy a ticket get the movie in digital free (like Passengers)

 

 

 

I must have missed Passengers fudge. Sounds like tons of fun. 

Edited November 16, 2018 by Valonqar

[Elessar]

50 minutes ago, Premium George said:

Lol, deadline and bot.

Still dont get the hate deadline is getting. They are doing early projections, which by nature are prone to errors.

[TalismanRing]

1 minute ago, Elessar said:

Still dont get the hate deadline is getting. They are doing early projections, which by nature are prone to errors.

True and if the $9.1m includes the Tues previews then their $7-7.5m is probably pretty close to what Thur actually pulled

[kitik]

20 minutes ago, a2k said:

Venom's 2nd weekend in China should cross 55. Around 50% drop from ow. The experts are now talking $270+ total. So matching SMH's 880 ww is on cards 215 Dom + 275 Ch + 390 OS-Ch = 880 WW

 

bat shit crazy!!!!

 

The fact that this could potentially be bigger than Wonder Woman, bigger than either of the GOTG movies, bigger than any X-Men movie ever, and possibly even bigger than any Spider-Man movie ever!!!!

 

bat shit crazy!!!

 

Venom!!!!!!!!

[DAJK]

Eeeek that’s not great for Widows. Probably 13-14M opening

[kitik]

6 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

True and if the $9.1m includes the Tues previews then their $7-7.5m is probably pretty close to what Thur actually pulled

 

I'd like confirmation of that from one of the reliable sources/trades/whatever before assuming one way or the other.

[George Parr]

10 minutes ago, RealLyre said:

unless you're an MCU film. The MCU have produced 10 sequels and all of them have increased over their predecessors except for AoU (for obvious reasons and it did increase over A1 OS).

 

So why can't the other franchises follow the MCU? all they have to do is make good movies..

"Making good movies" has little to do with it.

 

The development of a franchise depends on where a franchise is coming from. Big franchises have little room to group, long-standing franchises can at times make a big splash again after a long break, but generally they aren't trending upwards. Franchises that start relatively small can indeed grow, something that is especially likely if the first movie is a sleeper hit that caught on after its theatrical release.

 

In the case of the MCU, you have a unique situation, with various factors coming into play. You have the central movies around the Avengers, and then you have the (mostly) smaller ones about the individual heroes. It's The Avengers that gave the other movies a big boost, and the same continues now with further releases of that kind. Even "less interesting" heroes benefit from the general Avengers-hype. Though one has to mention that these smaller MCU-movies are quite a bit smaller than the regular movies of the other big franchises, which means they have a larger chance to grow than movies that already have a larger audience.

 

That simply isn't a situation that you can apply equally to other franchises. In most franchises you have the main storyline that drives everything, there isn't this whole set of different characters that are mostly independent from each other. You might get the occasional spin-offs, but those are rarely mixed in between, they are more likely to follow after the main franchise is done. And on top of that, spin-offs don't have quite the same effect of playing a role in the grander scheme of things. In the MCU, all movies can work on their own, but they also can add weight to the grander story of the whole universe, which isn't something spin-offs (or prequels) can do in the same way. E.g. Fantastic Beasts can add to the lore of Harry Potter by telling a story from an earlier time, but that doesn't affect Harry Potter, because Harry Potter is already finished. The MCU, on the other hand, can have their heroes do things in their own movies that play an immediate role in the Avengers-story.

 

The one franchise that could - in theory - try something similar, is DC. It has the same setup of individual heroes that can also team up. Problem is, DC hasn't managed to get the ball rolling right away, getting a negative vibe early on, turning that into an overwhelmingly positive opinion (as is the case for the MCU) isn't all that easy. Not to mention that the MCU already kind of fills that role, and being the second one to do something popular is in many ways unlikely to repeat the success.

[filmlover]

3 minutes ago, DAJK said:

Eeeek that’s not great for Widows. Probably 13-14M opening

It's fine. Will likely have a very good drop next weekend as there isn't much competition (Green Book will be expanding to just 1K theaters and The Front Runner is obviously DOA).

[kitik]

And by the way, I really hope this Tuesday preview shit doesn't become a thing. I've noticed a few movies that have done it lately. (Not picking on FB or anything in particular.)

 

Hollywood is so stupid. Tuesday showings should not be part of Friday numbers. May 1st is definitely not summer.

 

Get off my lawn!

[Curtis1986]

Isn't green book tracking very poorly.

[filmlover]

2 minutes ago, Curtis1986 said:

Isn't green book tracking very poorly.

They decided to scale back the release most likely to build WOM (25 theaters this weekend, 1K next). Not a bad choice since there's nothing coming out the two weeks after Thanksgiving (what the fuck is The Possession of Hannah Grace?) so they can expand if the numbers are good enough.

[a2k]

FB1

8.75

20.91 (2.39x)

26.25 (+25.54%)

18.49 (-29.56%)

=74.40

 

FB2

9.10

19.11 (2.1x)

23.41 (+22.5%)

16.39 (-30%)

= 68.01

 

[Premium George]

29 minutes ago, Elessar said:

Still dont get the hate deadline is getting. They are doing early projections, which by nature are prone to errors.

Of course. 

[Alli]

So are the Tuesday sneaks included in this number? They can't be, right? That would mean a drop from FB1's previews. How often does that happen for an anticipated sequel?