FAST & FURIOUS PRESENTS: HOBBS & SHAW | 585.1 M overseas ● 759.1 M worldwide

[Steven]

1 hour ago, Thanos Legion said:

170 DOM, ~375 OS-C, maybe 165 China, call it 710 or so. Not losing money, probably not making much either.

200 in China is possible

[a2k]

725 ww likely:

170 Dom

380 OS-Ch

175 Ch

 

approx theatrical returns,

170*0.55 + 380*0.40 + 175*0.25 = 289.25

[Cooper Legion]

14 minutes ago, Steven said:

200 in China is possible

Extremely unlikely given the available information. Maybe it can leg to 180+ but color me skeptical.

[a2k]

1 minute ago, Thanos Legion said:

Extremely unlikely given the available information. Maybe it can leg to 180+ but color me skeptical.

KOTM did 1.92x with 8.5 on Maoyan. HS is on 8.6 atm and gonna need 2.1x to hit 200 with 95.5-96 ow. Difficult but not extremely imo.

[MattW]

I'm not sure it'll hit 170, tracking pretty close to Straight Outta Compton:

 

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Fast-and-Furious-Presents-Hobbs-and-Shaw-(2019)/Straight-Outta-Compton#tab=day_by_day_comparison

 

Edit Aug 26, after looking again I think @Thanos Legion @Stevenand @a2k are right, it'll get to or just past 170m.  

Going into the weeds on this....

PG13 movies have better labor day holds than rated R movies so it'll do better next weekend relative to SOC, and beyond that it's holding even with SOC on weekend 4 even though SOC had the holiday.  If it holds like Suicide Squad from here on out it could even leg it up a little past 175 (SS having pretty good late legs I wouldn't say that's a good bet yet, but next weekend we'll know for sure).

Edited August 26, 2019 by MattW

[Cooper Legion]

The Labor Day effect for H&S will even be one week weaker, hmmm. To be honest I was expecting a better drop for H&S this weekend, I ‘d probably go with more like 165 after looking at it more.    

[Steven]

China box office:

OW :￥280m＋￥244m＋￥185m(maybe)＝￥709m(＄102m)

So China may hit 1350m(＄190m)

Global Total:

170m(DOM)＋190m(China)+370m(OS-Ch)＝730m

 

 

Edited August 25, 2019 by Steven

[Barnack]

2 minutes ago, Steven said:

170m(DOM)＋190m(China)+370m(OS-Ch)＝730m

 

All unadjusted below and not that relevant but:

 

That would be a 730/1,236.0, 60% retention rate from a spin-off relative to the last entry and 48% of the peak entry.

 

Bumblebee: 468 / 605, 77% and 41% of the series peak of 1,123.8M

Fantastic beast: 814.0/1,341.5, 60% of both

Minions: 112% of the series peak

Puss in Boots: 74% of the previous entry, 60% of the series peak

 

Would not surprise me if it is an indication that the overall main franchise decline could continue.

[Minnale101]

3 minutes ago, Barnack said:

All unadjusted below and not that relevant but:

 

That would be a 730/1,236.0, 60% retention rate from a spin-off relative to the last entry and 48% of the peak entry.

 

Bumblebee: 468 / 605, 77% and 41% of the series peak of 1,123.8M

Fantastic beast: 814.0/1,341.5, 60% of both

Minions: 112% of the series peak

Puss in Boots: 74% of the previous entry, 60% of the series peak

 

Would not surprise me if it is an indication that the overall main franchise decline could continue.

I mean fast and furious 7 really did a unbelievable and saw a massive growth from 6th one due to Paul walker death 

 

8th did 300 million less 

 

9th won’t have the rock in it. Probably will see another decline 

 

but don’t think the series was really supposed to be this massive but Paul walker tragic death just skyrocketed it 

[RealLyre]

290M returns from theatrical run on 360M (200M+160M P&A) costs doesn't sound that bad all things considered. 

 

home video sales + streaming and TV deals will cover those 70M and then some. 

 

 

[Godzilla]

According to BOM it’s at $441.2M OS. 

[Steven]

Monster $101.8M opening wknd in China for #HobbsAndShaw lifting new # boxoffice totals to $441.2M intl, $147.7M domestic & $588.9M global. Final gross of $800M is possible for this #FastAndFurious spinoff which would be #3 for the franchise after parts 7 & 8. $5.7B for series.

Edited August 25, 2019 by Steven

[titanic2187]

Total Lifetime Grosses

Domestic:	$147,701,255	25.1%
+ Foreign:	$441,200,000	74.9%
= Worldwide:	$588,901,255

[Purple Minion]

Hobbs & Shaw grossed an estimated $39.1M internationally this weekend (including $27.9M in China, where the film has grossed $166.0M to date).

Through Sunday, international total stands at $525.3M, global total stands at $682.4M.#HobbsAndShaw #BoxOffice @UniversalPics

— BoxOfficeReport.com (@BORReport) September 1, 2019

[Godzilla]

So around $750M WW? 

[Cooper Legion]

Maybe something like 175 DOM, 385 OS-C, 200C for 760. Better legs than I was expecting, should be good for 2019 WW 9 or 10.

[Purple Minion]

 

[pepsa]

Added an extra $21m in the last week WW, should do $25m more to get around $765m. That's 'only' a 38% drop from the 8th entry, the last jedi dropped 35% and that wasn't a spin off so I would say this isn't to bad in the end. 

[KP1025]

34 minutes ago, pepsa said:

Added an extra $21m in the last week WW, should do $25m more to get around $765m. That's 'only' a 38% drop from the 8th entry, the last jedi dropped 35% and that wasn't a spin off so I would say this isn't to bad in the end. 

 

They'll probably want to reduce the budget for future spin-offs though. $200 million budget for a mid-$700 million finish is probably lower than what Universal was expecting. 

[a2k]

3 hours ago, pepsa said:

Added an extra $21m in the last week WW, should do $25m more to get around $765m. That's 'only' a 38% drop from the 8th entry, the last jedi dropped 35% and that wasn't a spin off so I would say this isn't to bad in the end. 

the drop dom will be around 23% which is very good. drop in china will be 47-48%. considering dom returns are 55% vs 25% from china it did not take as big a hit ww as it appears. 

 

a non-spinoff could itself have dropped that much dom going by F8's 2.29x multi and mixed reception. the studio will take heart from the 2.85-2.9x multi for HS. feel confident we will get HS2. they will need to reign in the prod budget like say jw2 did.

Edited September 16, 2019 by a2k