The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)

[Krissykins]

1 hour ago, filmlover said:

Scream 4's floppage in retrospect makes total sense between 90s nostalgia not really being a thing yet in 2011, the weak response to the previous movie, and horror in general just being in a bad place then, with its comeback happening in the last five years or so. The 2000s in particular were dire for the genre, both at the box office and especially in terms of quality.

The 2000’s was a great decade for horror! both at the box office and quality wise, IMO. 
 

What Lies Beneath, Hannibal, The Others, Signs, The Ring, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Freddy vs Jason, The Grudge, the Saw franchise, the Final Destination franchise, Paranormal Activity. That’s just a quick look at the biggest ones of each year. Most of the remakes were money makers too. Quality wise there is so much more. 

[Cmasterclay]

I've never understood or felt the hype for Scream outside the Scary Movie movies. I like the movies, don't get me wrong, but I just don't know many fans IRL like I always have for Friday the 13th, Halloween, Freddy, or even smaller franchises like Conjuring or the Ring. But I think I'm caught between two generations on this one.

Scary Movie though....fucking huge back in the day.

[Krissykins]

28 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

I've never understood or felt the hype for Scream outside the Scary Movie movies. I like the movies, don't get me wrong, but I just don't know many fans IRL like I always have for Friday the 13th, Halloween, Freddy, or even smaller franchises like Conjuring or the Ring. But I think I'm caught between two generations on this one.

Scary Movie though....fucking huge back in the day.

Oh I watched that a few weeks ago. It has, unsurprisingly, aged extremely poorly. 
 

Scream has aged like a fine wine. 

[filmlover]

34 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

The 2000’s was a great decade for horror! both at the box office and quality wise, IMO. 
 

What Lies Beneath, Hannibal, The Others, Signs, The Ring, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Freddy vs Jason, The Grudge, the Saw franchise, the Final Destination franchise, Paranormal Activity. That’s just a quick look at the biggest ones of each year. Most of the remakes were money makers too. Quality wise there is so much more. 

I don't include these movies among "traditional" horror titles because they were very much members of the "adult-driven thrillers featuring A-listers or notable names" (Ford, Pfeiffer, Hopkins, Moore, Kidman, Gibson, Phoenix) genre that was all the rage in the late 80s and the 90s and thus were aimed at a much more mature audience than the others (The Ring would also be included in that group but Watts wasn't quite a huge name yet when it came out). I'll give you the others, though.

 

35 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

I've never understood or felt the hype for Scream outside the Scary Movie movies. I like the movies, don't get me wrong, but I just don't know many fans IRL like I always have for Friday the 13th, Halloween, Freddy, or even smaller franchises like Conjuring or the Ring. But I think I'm caught between two generations on this one.

Scary Movie though....fucking huge back in the day.

I actually think if someone was able to seize control of the rights of that franchise away from the Weinstein limbo it's currently stuck in and made another it would be huge now, especially when there's been a plethora of horror movies that everyone instantly recognizes that are ripe for spoofing in the last several years, but only if they managed to get both Anna Faris and Regina Hall back.

[ddddeeee]

2 hours ago, Krissykins said:

Oh I watched that a few weeks ago. It has, unsurprisingly, aged extremely poorly. 

Except for Brenda.

[Boxofficerules]

I’m still not convinced Scream will do well.

[Boxofficerules]

Some people on Reddit are going mad at the suggestion that Scream may take number 1 from Spider-Man, Spider-Man has been number 1 for 4 weeks, it’s a massive success, what more do they want?

[AdrianL]

3 minutes ago, Boxofficerules said:

I’m still not convinced Scream will do well.

Me neither. I'm getting Scream 4 deja vu. I think if this does over $20m 3-day then I'll say it does well but we'll see. Sales in my area don't really seem to suggest really strong previews but idk we'll see. 

[Krissykins]

53 minutes ago, ddddeeee said:

Except for Brenda.

Oh of course! 😂

[el sid]

Sorry for being so late.
Scream, counted today at 11am EST for today:
 

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 196 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 179 (3 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 90 (3 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 19 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 115 (6 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 205 (6 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 777 (17 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 1.581.

Up 21.5% since yesterday. So its jump was worse than those of my comparison films below but better than yesterday (15.5%) and it stayed in front of HK.
Comps (unfortunately I don't have It 2 comps for this day; all the listed comps are from Thursday for Thursday): The Forever Purge (1.3M from previews) had 241 sold tickets,
Halloween Kills (4.85M) had 1.314 sold tickets (up 30.5% from Wednesday to Thursday back then)
and AQP II (4.8M) had 1.582 sold tickets (up 31% back then).

Two comps point today to more than 5M from previews and one to a number slightly below. So I just go with 5M.

Scream, counted today at 11am EST for tomorrow:
 

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 402 (10 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 244 (9 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 71 (10 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 19+ (3 showtimes, partly error)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 74 (8 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 191 (10 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 408 (12 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 1.409+.

Up 21% since yesterday.
Comps (all counted on Thursday for Friday): Halloween Kills (17.95M true Friday) had 1.575 sold tickets (up 25.5% back then)
and The Conjuring 3 (9.8M true Friday) had 1.435 sold tickets (up 33.5% back then) - as mentioned I think HK is the better comp because The Conjuring 3 had a streaming option and no choice between Thursday and Friday presales-wise and no holiday on Monday.

I did a kind of worst case scenario: I said Scream has for Friday - similar to yesterday - ca. 90% of the presales of HK but due to the worse jump I go with 80% (would be 14.5M true Friday for Scream). Then I took the decreases of Scream 4 for Saturday (almost -20%) and an a bit better hold (due to the holiday and WOM) than what Scream 4 had on Sunday, namely -35%. Would still mean around 39M for the 3-day weekend. 
Judging from presales (not only mine), I would predict 40M+ for 3 days and only because of all the flops/underperformances last year I hesitate. But OTOH, for Halloween Kills it worked, why shouldn't it work for Scream.

Belle had today 64 sold tickets for today and 83 sold tickets for tomorrow (on both days it gets showtimes in all of my 7 theaters and I heard it's released in ca. 1.300 theaters this weekend).
My bad comps (all except for Zola counted on Thursday for Friday): Zola (0.5M OD, 1.2M OW in 1.468 theaters) had on Wednesday for Wednesday 114 sold tickets with showtimes in 5 theaters,
The French Dispatch (2.6M OW in 788 theaters) had 70 sold tickets in 3 theaters,
Belfast (1.8M in 580 theaters) had 35 sold tickets in 2 theaters

and The Card Counter (1M also in 580 theaters) had 62 sold tickets in 3 theaters.

[Inceptionzq]

On 1/12/2022 at 4:19 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Scream Megaplex

 

T-2 days Friday(87 showings): 520(+127)/19632 in 15 theaters

Halloween Kills T-2 comp: 12.99M

 

T-3 days Saturday(88 showings): 246(+76)/19811 in 15 theaters

Halloween Kills T-3 comp: 15.06M

 

T-4 days Sunday(79 showings): 97(+28)/16841(+138) in 15 theaters

Halloween Kills T-4 comp: 11.50M

Scream Megaplex

 

T-1 days Friday(89 showings): 707(+187)/20608(+976) in 15 theaters

Halloween Kills T-1 comp: 12.18M

 

T-2 days Saturday(88 showings): 336(+90)/19811 in 15 theaters

Halloween Kills T-2 comp: 14.66M

 

T-3 days Sunday(79 showings): 120(+33)/16841 in 15 theaters

Halloween Kills T-3 comp: 9.17M

[Inceptionzq]

On 1/12/2022 at 4:22 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Scream Alamo Drafthouse

 

T-2 days Friday(237 showings): 4221(+675)/31220(+2723)

ATP: $14.21

 

T-3 days Saturday(259 showings): 2982(+528)/34817(+3791)

ATP: $13.49

 

T-4 days Sunday(231 showings): 1522(+249)/31046(+4155)

ATP: $12.93

Scream Alamo Drafthouse

 

T-1 days Friday(237 showings): 5328(+1107)/31220

ATP: $14.21

 

T-2 days Saturday(262 showings): 3742(+760)/35075(+258)

ATP: $13.56

 

T-3 days Sunday(242 showings): 1777(+255)/32457(+1411)

ATP: $13.07

[TalismanRing]

NYC Regal (Local) Thur: 6:30pm

 

Scream: 183/1242

 

COMPS:

Halloween Kills: $5.35m
Candyman:  $5.89m

Invisible Man; $4.31m
Zombieland 2: $5.49m
Dr Sleep: $5.18m

 

Avg:  $5.22m

[Krissykins]

Anyone who took the time to track Scream, I really appreciate it, thank you very much. 
 

@el sid@Eric Riley @Inceptionzq @TalismanRing @Rorschach @katnisscinnaplex @Porthos

[Eric Duncan]

20 hours ago, Eric Riley said:

Scream Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	46	1397	8587	16.27%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 331

 

Comp

0.397x of A Quiet Place Part II Thu+Fri T-1 (7.68M)

0.545x of The Conjuring 3 T-1 (5.34M)

0.794x of Halloween Kills T-1 (3.85M)

Scream Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	2	46	2174	8508	25.55%

 

Total Sellouts Added Today: 2

Total Seats Sold Today: 777

 

Comp

0.420x of A Quiet Place Part II Thu+Fri (8.13M)

0.756x of Halloween Kills (3.67M)

 

Some may pause at the decline from Halloween, but I think this is a good solid finish. The mean is at about 5.9M, so if you knock it down a few pegs...I guess 4M?

[Cap]

What time did Scream previews start?

[Eric Duncan]

Just now, Cap said:

What time did Scream previews start?

7 PM

[Legion Again]

BOP going way low on Scream

Film	Distributor	3-Day Weekend Forecast	4-Day Weekend Forecast	Projected Domestic Total through Monday, January 17	Location Count	3-Day % Change from Last Wknd
Scream (2022)	Paramount Pictures	$29,800,000	$33,700,000	$33,700,000	3,664	NEW
Spider-Man: No Way Home	Sony Pictures / Columbia & Marvel Studios	$19,900,000	$24,900,000	$702,800,000	3,925	-39%
Sing 2	Universal Pictures	$8,700,000	$11,700,000	$122,700,000	3,581	-25%
The 355	Universal Pictures	$2,000,000	$2,300,000	$8,400,000	3,145	-57%
The King’s Man	Disney / 20th Century Studios	$1,900,000	$2,300,000	$28,700,000	2,510	-41%
American Underdog	Lionsgate / Kingdom Story Company	$1,700,000	$2,000,000	$21,500,000	2,394	-27%
West Side Story (2021)	Disney / 20th Century Studios	$1,100,000	$1,400,000	$34,200,000	1,460	-20%
The Matrix Resurrections	Warner Bros. Pictures	$925,000	$1,100,000	$36,100,000	1,725	-50%
Licorice Pizza	United Artists Releasing	$800,000	$1,000,000	$9,700,000	772	-19%
Ghostbusters: Afterlife	Sony Pictures / Columbia	$725,000	$900,000	$126,300,000	1,202	-35%

 

But I think this is the first time they’ve offered 3day and 4day for all movies? Like that change a lot @Shawn 👍

[Eric Duncan]

Just realized now that there's nothing else to track until either Uncharted puts up sales (should be sometime in January hopefully?) or when Moonfall/Jackass comes out. I know there's like some rando movie called Redeeming Love and that King's Daughter thing with Pierce Brosnan, but...come on. So um...you guys got any advice on how I should spend my evenings now?

[Cap]

1 minute ago, Eric Riley said:

um...you guys got any advice on how I should spend my evenings now?

take up pickleball?