stripe Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Why the concerns regarding Maestro? Critics already like it and it's the kind of movie that ends more loved by AMPAS than by critics. Hollywood themed, actor turned director, biopic, strong cast, showy production... I am quite confident that these 7 films will finally make the cut. Oppenheimer Killers of the flower moon Poor things Barbie Maestro Holdovers Anatomy of a fall Then there's still a wide range of films that could get traction. I would bet the other three will be a mainstream (Air), an auteur (May December) and an unseen (The Color Purple). Foreign films: Zone of Interest Past Lives The Boy and the Heron Auteur films: All of us strangers Hit man Saltburn Priscilla May December Popular/mainstream films: Air Ferrari (if succesful) Across the Spiderverse The Killer (if succesful) Still unseen (possible gamechangers) Napoleon The Color Purple Wonka (if it surprises as Barbie did) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestPicturePlutoNash Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 https://x.com/TheGregoryE/status/1702012262473679229?s=20 1a “Oppenheimer” Are we looking at a record number of nominations or not? 1b “Poor Things” Everyone’s talking about Emma Stone getting Best Actress win no. 2, but could this be Oscar win no. 1 for Mark Ruffalo? 3 “Killers of the Flower Moon” If Apple, Paramount, and Marty deliver a legitimate box office hit, anything is possible. 4 “Barbie” Honestly, we wanna know if both Dua Lipa and Billie Eilish can get nominated for Best Original Song. I mean, they are both going to get submitted, right? 5 “Anatomy of a Fall” If it really does qualify as France’s International Film submission (super competitive and not official yet), it will help NEON in other competitive categories immensely. 6 “Zone of Interest” A LAFCA, NYFCC, or National Board of Review win would be a massive help. 7 “Maestro”* Strong reviews out of Venice. It’s hard to believe Netflix won’t get this one in. 8 “Past Lives” Genuinely concerned that it might get lost among the fall titles and A24’s heavy release schedule, the box office crossed $11 million domestically, which was no small feat. It’s been seen. 9 “The Color Purple”* Sure, there might be a SAG strike going on deep into the season, but when one of your key producers to campaign for you is the one and only Oprah? Yeah, you’re good. 10 “The Holdovers” Focus should have enough to get this one across the finish line. Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel M Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Like I already said It would be stupid to put this in adapted while every other movie adapting real people and events is considered original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestPicturePlutoNash Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 37 minutes ago, Joel M said: Like I already said It would be stupid to put this in adapted while every other movie adapting real people and events is considered original. WGA has deemed it Original, too. It just depends on what the Academy does.. which will probably followsuit. This could very well be Greta's (and Baumbach) Oscar moment. Adapted would be very tough with Poor Things (and Oppenheimer and Flower Moon locked for noms). In Original, the biggest threat is probably.. Anatomy of a Fall? Holdovers and Past Lives probably too small and less likely overall contenders... but the writers should be more inclined to embrace a giant highconcept comedy like this with a preaching social message baked in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingonaName Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 This is stupid, Barbie is 100% adapted. Holdovers probes taking the og screenplay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 All it says is that WB is campaigning it there. The Academy can decide it's not an original screenplay if they want and move it to Adapted like they've done with certain titles in the past (Whiplash, Moonlight). I expect that to happen here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestPicturePlutoNash Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 40 minutes ago, WorkingonaName said: This is stupid, Barbie is 100% adapted. Holdovers probes taking the og screenplay. the holdovers won't beat barbie or anatomy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Train Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Academy is fairly strict on which scripts are adapted, they put things like Moonlight or Whiplash in adapted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestPicturePlutoNash Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 barbie should be Adapted but I wonder if the Academy just defaults since everyone considers it such an "original" take, etc. We shall see As of now, pre TIFF audience winner: PICTURE: Poor Things (alt: Oppenheimer) DIRECTOR: Lanthimos, Poor Things (alt: Nolan, Oppenheimer) ACTOR: Giamatti, The Holdovers (alt: Murphy, Oppenheimer) ACTRESS: Stone, Poor Things (alt: Huller, Anatomy of a Fall) SUPPORTING ACTOR: Ruffalo, Poor Things (alt: Gosling, Barbie) SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Gladstone, Killers of the Flower Moon (alt: Randolph, The Holdovers) ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY: Barbie (alt: Anatomy of a Fall. Holdovers alt if Barbie goes Adapted) ADAPTED SCREENPLAY: Poor Things (alt: Oppenheimer. Barbie if Adapted) The techs will be divided between Oppenheimer, Barbie and Poor Things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 10 hours ago, stripe said: Why the concerns regarding Maestro? Critics already like it and it's the kind of movie that ends more loved by AMPAS than by critics. Hollywood themed, actor turned director, biopic, strong cast, showy production... Biopic fatigue, I guess. Definitely feels like one of those that gets downplayed during the predictions cycle even though it checks off a lot of boxes for AMPAS and sure to be Netflix's #1 push given the big names involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestPicturePlutoNash Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 https://www.goldderby.com/article/2023/air-golden-globes-comedy-musical/ Air is submitting Comedy at the Golden Globes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustLurking Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Bob Train said: Academy is fairly strict on which scripts are adapted, they put things like Moonlight or Whiplash in adapted. I mean, moonlight is adapted, just because the play didn't get produced doesn't mean Jenkins wasn't heavily inspired by it (he even credited the writer); Whiplash always felt kind of dumb to me though. Sort of surprised people here think Poor Things has a legitimate shot at winning, I figured the academy wouldn't give enough support to an apparently quite raunchy film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 hour ago, JustLurking said: I mean, moonlight is adapted, just because the play didn't get produced doesn't mean Jenkins wasn't heavily inspired by it (he even credited the writer); Whiplash always felt kind of dumb to me though. Sort of surprised people here think Poor Things has a legitimate shot at winning, I figured the academy wouldn't give enough support to an apparently quite raunchy film. It has a legitimate shot but it's still too early. Poor things has the momentum right now, but it will be hard to stay in conversation until February. Last year Fabelmans peaked early and it looked like a very strong frontrunner... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Poor Things is apparently a big crowd pleaser I think it sounds just freaky enough that it's not too off putting but freaky enough that they'll feel hip for voting for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 I really want Hayao Miyazaki's The Boy and the Heron to get into Best Picture even though I know it won't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAJK Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Poor Things just seems too "weird" to be a huge winner. And not weird in the way that EEAAO was weird. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestPicturePlutoNash Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 11 hours ago, DAJK said: Poor Things just seems too "weird" to be a huge winner. And not weird in the way that EEAAO was weird. Shape of Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOVIEGUY Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 22 hours ago, DAJK said: Poor Things just seems too "weird" to be a huge winner. And not weird in the way that EEAAO was weird. I'm not seeing it either. Yorgos Lanthimos' brand of weird seems way more niche to me than Everything Everywhere, Shape of Water, Parasite etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel M Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 I haven't see the movie yet but I agree that Poor Things doesn't sound the same kind of weird. Shape of Water was a Beauty and the Beast type fairytale in a historical setting. It just briefly touched on the fish sex stuff that this kind of tale usually avoids like the plague. EEAAO had some dildos and sausage hands foreplay but they were played for laughs. If this is as raunchy as reported, it might have enough "cool factor" to be championed to many nominations but it's difficult to become the consensus choice if it is full of scenes of zombie Emma Stone discovering herself through sex. idk maybe the raunchiness is exaggerated, I'm just going by what we know of Lanthimos style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 On 9/15/2023 at 4:34 AM, cannastop said: I really want Hayao Miyazaki's The Boy and the Heron to get into Best Picture even though I know it won't happen. It would need some miracle to achieve that. But given that Drive My Car just did that 2 years ago, a small Japanese film by small US distributor without win from major film festival, came out from nowhere but got into the BP race, it wasn't completely unprecedented case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...