WGA/SAGAFTRA Strike Discussion Thread | SAG Ratifies Contract

[Dementeleus]

1 hour ago, poweranimals said:

When does the DGA do their renogotiations?

They’ve been negotiating for a week now (it started May 10).

 

Also, looks like the North American players unions are supporting the WGA, can’t remember them making any sort of statement in years past:

 

 

[poweranimals]

1 hour ago, Plain Old Tele said:

They’ve been negotiating for a week now (it started May 10).

 

Also, looks like the North American players unions are supporting the WGA, can’t remember them making any sort of statement in years past:

 

 

Interesting. What are the odds that they go on strike as well?

[Porthos]

1 minute ago, poweranimals said:

Interesting. What are the odds that they go on strike as well?

 

Well Tele or others might have a better sense of how Things Might Be Different Now, but I will note that the only time the DGA ever went on strike before, the strike lasted a grand total of three hours and five minutes.

 

On the East Coast.  Five minutes, West Coast time.

 

(Twelve minutes by DGA reckoning, but now we're quibbling)

 

I suppose the way to look at it is, if the DGA talks get/are contentious, then this could be different.  But, man, given history I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Dementeleus]

2 hours ago, poweranimals said:

Interesting. What are the odds that they go on strike as well?

I would say very low, and the DGA has kinda always been the “we got ours so fuck y’all” guild, but hopefully things are different this time around. 

[SpiderByte]

 

[Mulder]

10 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

 

This one's big.

[SpiderByte]

Yep. They can shoot around with script they have already.

 

They cannot do that with actors.

[SpiderByte]

Oh, they're voting before negotiations begin. So it's even more serious.

 

[ThomasNicole]

Smart way of putting high pressure on these negotiations… the fact that WGA is already on strike should help SAG negotiation along with the earlier strike approval 

[Maggie]

Question: What will happen to the movies that'll have premiere in the coming months if SAG goes on strike? Will they still have premieres and red carpets? Jeff Wells said that writers won't attend premieres now that they are on strike. If SAG goes on strike too, that means actors are prohibited from attending premieres too, right? And no other promo for their movies

 

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A week and a half ago The Hollywood Reporter‘s Scott Roxborough reported (or reminded) that terms of the WGA strike bars guild writers from promoting their movies, as “the guild clearly states that members are ‘prohibited from making promotional appearances‘ while the strike continues.”

https://hollywood-elsewhere.com/sidestepping-glory-moment/

Edited May 18, 2023 by Maggie

[SpiderByte]

1 hour ago, Maggie said:

Question: What will happen to the movies that'll have premiere in the coming months if SAG goes on strike?

Promotion and such is part of their contracts, which probably means it wouldn't be allowed by SAG rules.

 

Though the odds of this strike happening is extremely low. It's much more likely that this is what will bring everyone back to the table wrt WGA. It's weird to describe but a vote to strike will mean the WGA strike will likely be ending in the next few weeks

[filmlover]

Gonna assume all the geek-friendly clickbait sites are at work on articles about how Comic-Con is in jeopardy, even though it already is due to the WGA strike (should that strike last through July and they threaten to picket the event).

 

A SAG-AFTRA strike falls under "I'll believe it when I see it" territory because the last one (which lasted 3 months) was more than 40 years ago (there was one in 2000 but it was only for commercials). Even so, the threat of a total work stoppage and being forced to release movies without even a big star-studded Hollywood premiere is probably going to be enough to wrap up the WGA strike sooner than later.

[Dementeleus]

Y’all more optimistic than me. I hope you’re right. 

[SpiderByte]

SAG going on strike means the entire industry instantly grinds to a halt in July. Any TV shows or movies with panels, press tours, Oscar campaigns, comic con guests, say goodbye to all the actors. Commercials? Need new a celebrity spokesperson. All those reality shows they used to fill in the gap without writers? Those go down too since a lot of those are SAG. You think things stopped because of pickets? There won't be productions for them to stop if the actors dont show up.

Edited May 18, 2023 by SpiderByte

[Maggie]

3 hours ago, SpiderByte said:

 

 

Though the odds of this strike happening is extremely low.

You said the WGA strike won't happen either, so...yeah you're too optimistic.
 

4 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

SAG going on strike means the entire industry instantly grinds to a halt in July. Any TV shows or movies with panels, press tours, Oscar campaigns, comic con guests, say goodbye to all the actors. Commercials? Need new a celebrity spokesperson. All those reality shows they used to fill in the gap without writers? Those go down too since a lot of those are SAG. You think things stopped because of pickets? There won't be productions for them to stop if the actors dont show up.

No MI:DR, Barbie, Oppenheimer promos. That'd be a disaster

[SpiderByte]

Just now, Maggie said:

You said the WGA strike won't happen either, so...yeah you're too optimistic.

SAG voting to strike is specifically so the WGA strike ends more quickly. It is not the same.

[filmlover]

At the end of the day, it all comes down to keeping the lights on, in one form or another. That's why WGA has agreed to not picket the Tony Awards even though the event will basically have to go unscripted unless they reaches an agreement before then (Broadway, which felt it the worst throughout the pandemic, needs the exposure from the ceremony to keep business going).

[Jonwo]

20 minutes ago, filmlover said:

At the end of the day, it all comes down to keeping the lights on, in one form or another. That's why WGA has agreed to not picket the Tony Awards even though the event will basically have to go unscripted unless they reaches an agreement before then (Broadway, which felt it the worst throughout the pandemic, needs the exposure from the ceremony to keep business going).

I always thought it would be a bit of act of self harm to picket the Tonys given that it's a theatre industry awards. 

 

I think SAG and DGA having the upper hand in terms of how impactful a strike would be to both production and release schedules mean it's more likely they'll be able to get their deal sorted. 

 

 

[Dementeleus]

AMPTP will absolutely try to offer clever little deals specific to each guild so they can divide and conquer. They’ll also probably do so with the writers too, in a few weeks (like, trying to pit feature writers against TV writers).

[filmlover]

1 hour ago, Jonwo said:

I always thought it would be a bit of act of self harm to picket the Tonys given that it's a theatre industry awards. 

The Tony Awards always attract notable names in film and TV either as nominees (for plays they are in) or as presenters, and this year's nominees alone include a lot of people known for their filmed medium work (including Sameul L. Jackson, Jessica Chastain, Jodie Comer, Yahya Abdul-Mateen II, Audra McDonald, Ben Platt, and far too many other names to type out) that are destined to make it an especially starry gathering even for those who don't follow Broadway. So far WGA has been targeting film/TV shoots and awards shows like the MTV Movie Awards for picketing while giving a pass to movie premieres and other events (also a strategic choice since we're at the beginning of summer movie season and the big budget tentpoles, which were finished long before the strike, don't need any negative publicity that can be avoided attached to them), so allowing the Tonys to move forward with no threat of picketing is nothing but good news since the Broadway shows could use the ticket sales boost from tourists, etc. and keep the lights on.

 

Plus, I feel like allowing the Tonys to go on unscripted this year is considered a blessing in disguise to many because it diminishes the chance of another Ariana DeBose rap.