reddevil19 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Jesus Christ, this Gerwig debate is gonna come up like a new SW ranking thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingonaName Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, reddevil19 said: That was Brie Larson, supporting feminism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, M37 said: As one who suggested such, turns out it was much more due to fixed capacity limitations than anything having to do with demand. And so we've seen that unmet demand consistently roll forward into the ensuring days, spreading the opening out over the first 10 days rather than an OW surge and drop-off Very similar to TDK’s spillover, but Barbie had even stronger weekdays than TDK and Barbie will probably have a much stronger second weekend than TDK as well. More frontloading in superhero genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale9001 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hiccup23 said: Barbie isn’t a success just because of Barbie brand or just Greta. It is a mix of a bunch of things. Talented director, Barbie brand, good reviews, pop cultural moment/hype, excellent marketing campaign, story that is relatable and speaks to big audiences, unique story (not a superhero flick or sequel) and ect. yes, but as every movie....it's not like every spielberg movie has made 500M domestic because it's spieleberg...there are a lot of factors...dinosaurs definitely sells more.... personally as period drama movies big fan i would be interested to a big historical biographica movie with Matt Damon, Robert Downey Junior and Emily Blunt even if it was directed by Ron Howard or Mel Gibson. Nolan is definitely a big factor to make it even more interesting to me but it's not like a totally unknown original obscure subject with c list actors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Tran Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 30 minutes ago, WorkingonaName said: People are seeing this movie because its Barbie, not because its a Greta Gerwig movie. It's both. They might not know the name of the director, but they've heard the movie is good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxOfficeZ Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, KeepItU25071906 said: D'Alessandro is so stubborn through years with this lowballing. I think it's even kind of amazing. I've always been under the assumption Deadline basically shills for the industry so they lowball to make studios look better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swishy Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Patiently waiting for the INTL numbers to come out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M37 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, vale9001 said: top gun started with 126M first weekend vs 162 of Barbie.. We need at least the third weekend to say Top gun was another "class of holds" imo. TGM’s third weekend was vs JWD (and losing PLF), so that comp is going to be skewed regardless. This isn’t a knock on Barbie, I just don’t think there is a good appreciation of just how much of an outlier TGM was in terms of legs: basically same as Elemental this summer, a slight tick below Avatar 2 with the holiday boost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day and Date The Best Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, vale9001 said: right now i would say 1.400-1.450B. If explodes in Japan maybe can go over 1.5B but not 2B 😀. Any chance of it without at least 150M in China and 100M in South Korea Barbie is expected to overperform in China 2nd Weeknd, is becoming beloved by women there, it has a 8.5 on douban, that is insane not even Avatar 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustLurking Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Day and Date The Best said: Barbie is expected to overperform in China 2nd Weeknd, is becoming beloved by women there, it has a 8.5 on douban, that is insane not even Avatar 2. it is doing better than it initially looked in china, and it was showing signs of a breakout early on in the week, but it has kinda cooled off since, still a decent run given expectations I guess but will but more in the vein of 30-40M from the looks of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxOfficeZ Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Just realized Barbie and Oppenheimer for their second weekend will beat this projection from a month ago lol. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/barbie-box-office-tracking-oppenheimer-1235526172/ Barbenheimer: ‘Barbie’ Tracking for Beatific $70M- $80M Opening, Christopher Nolan’s ‘Oppenheimer’ Targets $40M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AN9815 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 44 minutes ago, WorkingonaName said: People are seeing this movie because its Barbie, not because its a Greta Gerwig movie. That is true. However, Barbie is enjoying these holds and reviews and it is resonating with its target audience because it is a Greta Gerwig movie and she made a fantastic movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, vale9001 said: yes, but as every movie....it's not like every spielberg movie has made 500M domestic because it's spieleberg...there are a lot of factors...dinosaurs definitely sells more.... personally as period drama movies big fan i would be interested to a big historical biographica movie with Matt Damon, Robert Downey Junior and Emily Blunt even if it was directed by Ron Howard or Mel Gibson. Nolan is definitely a big factor to make it even more interesting to me but it's not like a totally unknown original obscure subject with c list actors. Yes like with every movie, it's many factors but most importantly concept. However, Oppenheimer by Nolan is defo more appealing than Oppenheimer by non-star director who isn't known for a specific cerebral twisty style that makes his movies so popular. Likewise, Barbie by Gerwig immediately attracted cinephile's attention (they are also audience!) which wouldn't happen if it wasn't an acclaimed director but someone who already churned out shitty blockbusters. Edited July 28, 2023 by Valonqar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swishy Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, BoxOfficeZ said: Just realized Barbie and Oppenheimer for their second weekend will beat this projection from a month ago lol. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/barbie-box-office-tracking-oppenheimer-1235526172/ Barbenheimer: ‘Barbie’ Tracking for Beatific $70M- $80M Opening, Christopher Nolan’s ‘Oppenheimer’ Targets $40M Imagine Barbie ends up doing 70 in its third weekend 😱 seems unlikely... but might not be too far off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipickthiswhiterose Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) I think the Gerwig comparisons to Jordan Peele are fair. If anything Gerwig has the advantage. Also, am I the only one that thinks Tarantino isn't a particularly reasonable comparison to Nolan or Cameron. The longevity and appreciation is there, maybe even the name itself. But his supposed magnum opus of Kill Bill only did x3 budget (both) and under 200m WW, he has an outright flop on his resume post-breakout in Grindhouse/Deathproof and another pretty-poor in Hateful Eight. His big hitters are x4 to x4.5 budget and only one movie over $380m. Don't get me wrong, It's a very,very good record. But is he a box office juggernaut in the way that Nolan, Cameron and peak Spielberg are? Maybe this conversation doesn't matter. Yes, that's probably the case. Edited July 28, 2023 by Ipickthiswhiterose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seduh7 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Im really impres at Barbie weekdays numbers (also Oppenheimer, but barbie es so huge). I expect the friday incrrease to be very low but even thoug i cannot see barbie doing less than $80 on it's second weekend. It has the potential to have a huge second weekend. I expect a 30% increase on friday, a 20% increase on saturday and a 20% drop on sunday for a $87,2 second weekend (46,2% drop, amazing). On weekdays barbie did $96,3 that represent 59,4% of the OW (that includes previews). The $96,3 weekday gross is the 8th highest ever. Whats more important, is the second highest grossing non holidays weekdays ever. Only AV:EG did better, and in may, really impressive, but AB:EG open 2,2x higher than Barbie. Barbie have better weekdays than TDK wich for me is one of the biggest surprises as TDK had amazing weekdays. 1-TFA 1st weekdays $142,9 (holidays) 2-SM:N 1st weekdays $125,7 (holidays) 3-AV:EG 1st weekdays $116,8 4-SW:TRS 1st weekdays $112,4 (holidays) 5-TFA 2st weekdays $111,9 (holidays) 6-A:TWW 2nd weekdays $97,1 (holidays) 7-SW:TLJ 2nd weekdays $96,5 (holidays) 8-Barbie 1st weekdays $96,3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ipickthiswhiterose said: I think the Gerwig comparisons to Jordan Peele are fair. If anything Gerwig has the advantage. Also, am I the only one that thinks Tarantino isn't a particularly reasonable comparison to Nolan or Cameron. The longevity and appreciations is there, maybe even the name itself. But his supposed magnum opus of Kill Bill only did x3 budget (both) and under 200m WW, he has an outright flop on his resume post-breakout in Grindhouse/Deathproof and another pretty-poor in Hateful Eight. His big hitters are x4 to x4.5 budget and only one movie over $380m. Don't get me wrong, It's a very,very good record. But is he a box office juggernaut in the way that Nolan, Cameron and peak Spielberg are? Maybe this conversation doesn't matter. Yes, that's probably the case. Tarantino movies are Hard R ratings. Very limited audience because of that. It’s pretty impressive that he was able to make profitable movies such as Pulp Fiction, Inglorious Basterds, Django Unchained, and Unce Upon A Time in Hollywood. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyxx Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) Wrong thread. Edited July 28, 2023 by eddyxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisonisdead Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ipickthiswhiterose said: Also, am I the only one that thinks Tarantino isn't a particularly reasonable comparison to Nolan or Cameron. The longevity and appreciation is there, maybe even the name itself. But his supposed magnum opus of Kill Bill only did x3 budget (both) and under 200m WW, he has an outright flop on his resume post-breakout in Grindhouse/Deathproof and another pretty-poor in Hateful Eight. His big hitters are x4 to x4.5 budget and only one movie over $380m. Don't get me wrong, It's a very,very good record. But is he a box office juggernaut in the way that Nolan, Cameron and peak Spielberg are? Maybe this conversation doesn't matter. Yes, that's probably the case. Tarantino isn't a blockbuster director like Nolan or Cameron, or like Spielberg once was. He's definitely in a smaller scale category, but the sentiment is still similar. Few directors can pull a $40M opening for a movie like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Similarly goes for Jordan Peele. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC Theaters Enjoyer Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, eddyxx said: https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/donald-glover-stephen-write-lando-series-disney-justin-simien-exits-1235681988/ anyone know how this deal went through when there’s a strike? The article says that the deal was written pre-strike. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
