September 15th-17th of 2023 Weekend Thread | $1.2M previews for A Haunting in Venice

[Issac Newton]

 

 

[martin]

Good weekend for WB.

[ThomasNicole]

Venice opened higher than Nile both DOM and OS 

 

Nile ended up with 137M, without much competition i think Venice can leg to 150M which would be acceptable for a 60M budget, let´s see

[Krissykins]

Happy to see Nun II number 1 again, with only a -55% drop and already at $158.8m worldwide. Should be headed for $220m+ at least. 
 

Budget: $38.5m

[Krissykins]

Barbie & Oppenheimer multipliers currently:

 

Barbie 3.8644x

Oppenheimer 3.8643x 

[Bob Train]

13 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

Barbie & Oppenheimer multipliers currently:

 

Barbie 3.8644x

Oppenheimer 3.8643x 

Barbie will pull ahead with IMAX release next week, although Oppenheimer may be re-released in IMAX eventually to push it past $1b.

[titanic2187]

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Even though A Haunting in Venice had PLFs and Imax, which propelled 36% of its weekend, Nun 2 had a better Saturday than the Branagh movie, $6.25M to $5.4M. The sequel’s overall hold this weekend is -55%, which is great for a horror pic (they typically drop -60% or worse in weekend 2).

 

I think the data from the past 2 years is enough to declare that horror genre is no longer a frontloaded genre at the BO like how people assume.

 

[Issac Newton]

 

Rank	Film	Distributor	Weekend Gross	Locations	Location Average	%Change	Total Gross	TG ÷ OW	Week
1	The Nun II	Warner Bros. / New Line	$14,730,000	3,743	$3,935	-54.8%	$56,523,159	1.734	2
2	A Haunting in Venice	Disney / 20th Century	$14,500,000	3,305	$4,387	NEW	$14,500,000	1.000	1
3	The Equalizer 3	Sony / Columbia	$7,235,000	3,528	$2,051	-39.7%	$73,679,930	2.129	3
4	My Big Fat Greek Wedding 3	Focus	$4,700,000	3,678	$1,278	-53.1%	$18,571,615	1.852	2
5	Barbie	Warner Bros.	$3,965,000	3,012	$1,316	-30.5%	$626,122,143	3.864	9
6	Jawan	Yash Raj Films	$2,493,986	776	$3,214	-59.3%	$12,193,700	1.991	2
7	Blue Beetle	Warner Bros.	$2,475,000	2,386	$1,037	-35.2%	$67,280,782	2.688	5
8	Gran Turismo: Based on a True Story	Sony / Columbia	$2,350,000	2,202	$1,067	-32.9%	$39,422,852	2.264	4
9	Oppenheimer	Universal	$2,100,000	1,799	$1,167	-31.8%	$318,639,115	3.864	9
10	Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem	Paramount	$2,000,000	2,066	$968	-28.0%	$114,147,685	4.076	7
11	Bottoms	MGM / Orion	$1,201,886	1,182	$1,017	-41.2%	$9,872,346	3.239	4
	Meg 2: The Trench	Warner Bros.	$695,000	976	$712	-42.7%	$81,731,992	2.724	7
	Talk to Me	A24	$567,472	570	$996	-34.8%	$46,923,334	4.498	8
	Haunted Mansion	Disney	$515,000	650	$792	-22.0%	$66,247,443	2.751	8
	Camp Hideout	Roadside	$510,160	848	$602	NEW	$510,160	1.000	1
	Strays	Universal	$380,000	761	$499	-55.0%	$23,616,435	2.863	5
	The Hill	Briarcliff	$355,000	805	$441	-41.4%	$7,175,296	3.117	4
	Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One	Paramount	$340,000	356	$955	-39.3%	$171,998,589	3.145	10
	Dumb Money	Sony / Columbia	$217,000	8	$27,125	NEW	$217,000	1.000	1
	Golda	Bleecker Street	$111,931	196	$571	-61.7%	$4,379,103	2.582	4
	Elemental	Disney	$100,000	255	$392	-68.6%	$154,341,946	5.214	14
	Amerikatsi	Variance Films	$91,932	19	$4,839	+62.5%	$168,598	1.834	2
	Retribution	Roadside	$44,095	92	$479	-69.6%	$6,853,280	1.948	4
	CatVideoFest 2023	Oscilloscope	$30,870	20	$1,544	-51.9%	$502,001	4.108	7
	Fremont	Music Box Films	$28,139	28	$1,005	-20.6%	$174,773	4.902	4
	Theater Camp	Disney / Searchlight	$25,000	45	$556	-46.7%	$3,960,123	6.264	10
	Jules	Bleecker Street	$10,464	23	$455	-43.2%	$1,888,512	2.255	6
	Canary	Oscilloscope	$8,350	3	$2,783	NEW	$8,350	1.000	1

[Pinacolada]

A disappointing domestic OW for Haunting in Venice, but the overall international opening weekend is pretty solid. Should easily be able to pass $100m WW at least 

[ringedmortality]

The hyperbole of "why would they spend 60M on this" people were on about earlier is crazy to me. Especially since this will outgross Death on the Nile and will make a killing on VOD.

[Jonwo]

I think if there is another Poirot film, go for a known title. The ABC Murders would allow them to cast a name as Hastings as well as the murderer and Evil Under The Sun you can go for starry cast in a sunny location.

[Spidey Freak]

5 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

I think if there is another Poirot film, go for a known title. The ABC Murders would allow them to cast a name as Hastings as well as the murderer and Evil Under The Sun you can go for starry cast in a sunny location.

 

EUTS plot is by the numbers and reveal is basically the same as Nile. Come to think of it, it is the poor man's Death on the Nile. Would be money burned. 

 

Not that Branaugh will get another theatrical turn. ABC Murders will make for a fun Saturday afternoon tune in on Hulu.

[Marathon]

It's a good thing the Turtles brand still has some strength in the domestic market because damn are Mutant Mayhem's numbers woeful overseas...

[Mojoguy]

4M WE for Barbie means it was the right call to release digital on 9/12. There was barely an impact. I would say 30% drop is fine.

[Spidey Freak]

Where's Ms. Barbara expected to rank next weekend?

[CJohn]

Brannagh deserved better. Fuck worldwide audiences for not showing up. Fuck Disney for being incompetents.

[Bob Train]

5 hours ago, Issac Newton said:

Budget: $60M

Dom Debut: $14M

Int'l Debut: $22M

Male: 51%

25+: 82% (!!!!)

 

IMAX $1.3M DOM / $2.2M WW

It's obvious Haunting in Venice is old skewing like the other Poirot movies. If it was playing like a young-skewing horror, Nun 2 would have dropped a lot harder than it actually is.

[Bob Train]

50 minutes ago, Spidey Freak said:

 

EUTS plot is by the numbers and reveal is basically the same as Nile. Come to think of it, it is the poor man's Death on the Nile. Would be money burned. 

 

Not that Branaugh will get another theatrical turn. ABC Murders will make for a fun Saturday afternoon tune in on Hulu.

People said that Haunting in Venice would get sent to Hulu but it didn't. I don't really see why it would be different for any future Poirot movie?

[Dominic Draper]

4 hours ago, Krissykins said:

Happy to see Nun II number 1 again, with only a -55% drop and already at $158.8m worldwide. Should be headed for $220m+ at least. 
 

Budget: $38.5m

Yeah will easily clear 200M+ just like conjuring 3 and annabelle 3 did.

 

Can't wait for the next film in the universe to also do it and BOT to act shocked it happened like it came out of nowhere.

Edited September 17, 2023 by Dominic Draper

[Chrysaor]

Below's a comparison of Death in the Nile vs. A Haunting in Venice's opening weekend grosses both domestically and in the latter's top 10 foreign markets.

 

For me, one of the big questions was whether the inclusion of Camille Cottin (who's starred or co-starred in a number of French theatrical hits), Riccardo Scamarcio (who's recently starred in some very successful Netflix films in Italy), and Michelle Yeoh (who's never been a big box office draw in China but tapped into a groundswell of support there after her Best Actress Oscar win) would improve the film's openings in those markets. The short answer is, unfortunately no. Italy held even, France dropped 19% which might largely be due to going up directly against the opening weekend of The Nun II, and China dropped a whopping 59%.

 

I think the lesson from this is not at all to avoid an international cast, but rather when you cast international actors, you really ought to cast ones that are legitimate box office draws in their home countries. Some bright spots including the 13% domestic increase as well as a 27% increase in Spain and a 76% increase in Mexico. I'm not sure offhand what to attribute the bump in Spanish language countries to.

 

Death on the Nile's offshore opening weekend didn't include China, so if you back that out, it's roughly $20.7 (DotN) vs. $20.3 (AHiV). So we'll see how holds go. Based on this limited dataset, it looks like WW final might end up slightly under DotN's (hopefully I'm wrong), but again we'll see how holds go,  and either way it's bound to be more profitable considering that the budget was $30-40 MM less than DotN's.

 

 

USA     $12.8     ----->     $14.5 MM.    +13%

UK     $2.6      ----->     $2.6 MM     +0%

China     $5.8 MM     ----->     $2.4 MM     -59%

Italy     $2.1 MM     ----->     $2.1 MM     +0%

France     $2.1 MM     ----->     $1.7 MM     -19%

Spain     $942,000     ----->     $1.2 MM     +27%

Korea     $1.15      ----->     $1.0 MM     -13%

Japan     $1.07 MM     ----->     $900k     -16%

Germany     $1.252 MM     ----->     $800k     -36%

Mexico     $398k     ----->     $700k     +76%

Australia     $1.17     ----->     700k     -40%

Edited September 18, 2023 by Chrysaor