SPECTRE | 11/6/15 | Final Trailer on Page 126! | Twitter reactions coming in, STID 2.0?

[RichWS]

1 minute ago, Jayhawk said:

Don't know about that guy, but I for one really wanted to see Craig in a full on clown disguise.

 

Or snowboarding to California Girls. 

[The Futurist]

US opening is really weird, it s breaking records in plenty of other countries.

Skyfall was loved.

 

It seems americans are just waiting Star Wars to open or something.

[TalismanRing]

13 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

US opening is really weird, it s breaking records in plenty of other countries.

Skyfall was loved.

 

It seems americans are just waiting Star Wars to open or something.

 

It's opened under Skyfall in as many or maybe more countries than it's opened over. 

 

With Skyfall, I think in addition to year long publicity of Bond's 50th year, the 4 year break and Adele, the great reviews lured in an audience that normally doesn't go to Bond films.  They certainty weren't lured into coming on the heels of QOS.

[Shaldun]

It's confirmed, Spectre did the best OD of all time in France. 850 297 admissions beating Spider-Man 3 and its 804 345 admissions. Both had the particularity to open on a holiday (Labor Day for Spider-Man and Armistice Day for Spectre) which helps them a lot for openings. Spectre did 265 461 admissions in previews on Tuesday 10th but it was starting really early (up to 5pm at some places) and was more of a early release than previews. Still it is officially counted in its first day so it has the record. 

Edited November 12, 2015 by Shaldun

[RichWS]

ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION TO THE CURRENT PRICE OF $8.34:

 

GoldenEye - $204.1 million

Tomorrow Never Dies - $227.7 million

The World Is Not Enough - $208.4 million

Die Another Day - $231.0 million

Casino Royale - $213.2 million

Quantum - $195.6 million

Skyfall - $318.9 million

 

Other than Skyfall, do you notice a pattern? There's always been a ceiling on these movies. Hell, Connery's biggest was Thunderball at $525.1 million. You Only Live Twice, the next film, made $299.4 million. Moore's biggest was Moonraker at $233.6 million. For Your Eyes Only, the next film, made $164.4 million. There are always specific reasons why certain Bond films hit bigger than others. As many others have pointed out, Skyfall simply had so many things in its favor that Spectre didn't. The 50th anniversary, Adele's song and important for a series that skews much older, genuinely great reviews and word-of-mouth. 

 

This series has always ebbed and flowed.

[grim22]

3 minutes ago, RichWS said:

ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION TO THE CURRENT PRICE OF $8.34:

 

GoldenEye - $204.1 million

Tomorrow Never Dies - $227.7 million

The World Is Not Enough - $208.4 million

Die Another Day - $231.0 million

Casino Royale - $213.2 million

Quantum - $195.6 million

Skyfall - $318.9 million

 

Other than Skyfall, do you notice a pattern? There's always been a ceiling on these movies. Hell, Connery's biggest was Thunderball at $525.1 million. You Only Live Twice, the next film, made $299.4 million. Moore's biggest was Moonraker at $233.6 million. For Your Eyes Only, the next film, made $164.4 million. There are always specific reasons why certain Bond films hit bigger than others. As many others have pointed out, Skyfall simply had so many things in its favor that Spectre didn't. The 50th anniversary, Adele's song and important for a series that skews much older, genuinely great reviews and word-of-mouth. 

 

This series has always ebbed and flowed.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the next movie goes out in 3D in Asia and Latin America similar to what Furious 7 did. Bond is putting up bigger numbers than ever in those markets and I think EON and the next distributor will definitely feel they are leaving money on the table by not going out in those markets in 3D.

[zackzack]

Daily Domestic Chart for Wednesday November 11th, 2015

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		Movie	Distributor	Gross	Change	Thtrs.	Per Thtr.	Total Gross	Days
1	(1)	Spectre	Sony Pictures	$7,915,302	+8%	3,929	$2,015	$90,957,011	6
2	(2)	The Peanuts Movie	20th Century Fox	$7,766,913	+154%	3,897	$1,993	$56,763,800	6
3	(3)	The Martian	20th Century Fox	$1,501,925	+43%	2,855	$526	$200,009,441	41
4	(5)	Goosebumps	Sony Pictures	$1,429,740	+158%	3,051	$469	$68,550,558	27
5	(4)	Bridge of Spies	Walt Disney	$935,556	+29%	2,767	$338	$56,860,606	27
6	(8)	Hotel Transylvania 2	Sony Pictures	$928,908	+227%	2,274	$408	$162,726,563	48
7	(6)	Burnt	Weinstein Co.	$466,717	+5%	3,003	$155	$11,308,288	13
8	(7)	The Last Witch Hunter	Lionsgate	$382,430	+28%	2,286	$167	$24,399,222	20
9	(9)	The Intern	Warner Bros.	$290,178	+26%	1,071	$271	$71,993,948	48
10	(10)	Our Brand is Crisis	Warner Bros.	$227,420	+6%	2,202	$103	$6,502,837	13
11	(11)	Paranormal Activity: The Gh…	Paramount Pictures	$201,249	+3%	1,087	$185	$16,783,751	20
12	(12)	Sicario	Lionsgate	$180,216	+22%	722	$250	$44,355,943	55
13	(14)	Woodlawn	Pure Flix Entertain…	$179,432	+46%	922	$195	$12,892,338	27
14	(13)	Crimson Peak	Universal	$169,160	+15%	1,131	$150	$30,252,690	27
15	(-)	Pan	Warner Bros.	$160,154	+180%	508	$315	$33,199,110	34
-	(15)	Suffragette	Focus Features	$143,510	+36%	222	$646	$1,449,023	20
-	(-)	Steve Jobs	Universal	$111,380	+36%	421	$265	$16,915,508	34
-	(-)	Maze Runner: The Scorch Trials	20th Century Fox	$97,831	+81%	441	$222	$79,988,611	55
-	(-)	Scout's Guide to the Zombie…	Paramount Pictures	$95,987	+7%	1,151	$83	$3,393,457	13
-	(-)	Spotlight	Open Road	$53,126	+59%	5	$10,625	$416,613	6
-	(-)	Minions	Universal	$47,780	+253%	227	$210	$335,315,360	125
-	(-)	Everest	Universal	$47,140	+31%	225	$210	$42,871,965	55
-	(-)	Brooklyn	Fox Searchlight	$33,735	+50%	5	$6,747	$323,197	8
-	(-)	Black Mass	Warner Bros.	$31,358	+65%	172	$182	$62,199,546	55
-	(-)	The Visit	Universal	$30,940	+36%	270	$115	$64,773,540	62
-	(-)	Jurassic World	Universal	$20,145	+93%	139	$145	$652,091,640	153
-	(-)	Rock the Kasbah	Open Road	$16,630	+7%	201	$83	$2,791,760	20
-	(-)	The Man in 3B	Freestyle Releasing	$12,791	+59%	36	$355	$137,125	6
-	(-)	He Named Me Malala	Fox Searchlight	$11,524	-64%	57	$202	$2,483,626	41
-	(-)	Freeheld	Lionsgate	$3,686	+2%	60	$61	$542,658	41
-	(-)	Big Stone Gap	Picturehouse	$3,618	-11%	34	$106	$908,006	34
-	(-)	Ladrones	Lionsgate	$3,228	+4%	39	$83	$3,040,664	34
-	(-)	The Transporter Refueled	EuropaCorp	$2,208	+27%	32	$69	$16,021,904	69

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[fmpro]

4 hours ago, langer said:

Saw this yesterday and was pleasantly surprised.  The general feedback I was getting suggested a subpar movie, but to me it was about as good as Casino Royale and barely below Skyfall. 

 

Daniel Craig's Bond is much more interesting than Brosnan. 

 

Agree. I saw it earlier today. I liked it.. I really don't get all the gloom and doom over it..

[rickfox]

12 hours ago, rickfox said:

Just out of cinema, not a bad movie

 

every xxxx has a journey, and every journey has its end.-----Mr Bond says hi to The Dark Knight Rises

 

7.5 out of 10

 

[Ozymandias]

^SPECTRE is a lot better than TDKR.

[MovieMan89]

1 hour ago, RichWS said:

ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION TO THE CURRENT PRICE OF $8.34:

 

GoldenEye - $204.1 million

Tomorrow Never Dies - $227.7 million

The World Is Not Enough - $208.4 million

Die Another Day - $231.0 million

Casino Royale - $213.2 million

Quantum - $195.6 million

Skyfall - $318.9 million

 

Other than Skyfall, do you notice a pattern? There's always been a ceiling on these movies. Hell, Connery's biggest was Thunderball at $525.1 million. You Only Live Twice, the next film, made $299.4 million. Moore's biggest was Moonraker at $233.6 million. For Your Eyes Only, the next film, made $164.4 million. There are always specific reasons why certain Bond films hit bigger than others. As many others have pointed out, Skyfall simply had so many things in its favor that Spectre didn't. The 50th anniversary, Adele's song and important for a series that skews much older, genuinely great reviews and word-of-mouth. 

 

This series has always ebbed and flowed.

It is not the big drop from Skyfall that is surprising. It is the fact that it's going to have a sizable drop from all the other modern post 80's films too and go to such low attendance levels. Depending on legs, it could come as much as 5m short in admission from even QoS. The Thunderball to YOLT comparison isn't a good one because Thunderball was one of those 500+ mega blockbusters (adjusted). Of course there was nowhere to go but down. YOLT still was nearly as big of a hit as Skyfall, so it's not like attendance got low or anything. The best comparison is the Moonraker to FYEO one, however Moonraker wasn't nearly as big as Skyfall (and the general consensus on that film was always mixed unlike Skyfall), so even that drop wasn't as alarming.

Edited November 12, 2015 by MovieMan89

[Claire of Themyscira]

3 minutes ago, Ozymandias said:

^SPECTRE is a lot better than TDKR.

[RichWS]

4 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

It is not the big drop from Skyfall that is surprising. It is the fact that it's going to have a sizable drop from all the other modern post 80's films too and go to such low attendance levels. Depending on legs, it could come as much as 5m short in admission from even QoS. The Thunderball to YOLT comparison isn't a good one because Thunderball was one of those 500+ mega blockbusters (adjusted). Of course there was nowhere to go but down. YOLT still was nearly as big of a hit as Skyfall, so it's not like attendance got low or anything. The best comparison is the Moonraker to FYEO one, however Moonraker wasn't nearly as big as Skyfall, so even that drop wasn't as alarming.

 

It'll end up right around $200M. Oh no, it'll end up around Quantum in terms of admission? What the hell happened?! "Alarming"? Again, the series EBBS AND FLOWS. Jesus Christ, I'm tired of all the hand-wringing. The big problem is too many folks thought Skyfall was the new normal. That film was an outlier. 

Edited November 12, 2015 by RichWS

[RichWS]

Also, I was trying to make a point when singling out Thunderball and Moonraker that the biggest films of those eras saw big drops. It just happened again. No big surprise.

[MovieMan89]

1 minute ago, RichWS said:

 

It'll end up right around $200M. Oh no, it'll end up around Quantum in terms of admission? What the hell happened?! "Alarming"? Again, the series EBBS AND FLOWS. Jesus Christ, I'm tired of all the hand-wringing. The big problem is too many folks thought Skyfall was the new normal. That film was an outlier. 

It is not hitting 200m. the 60% drop this weekend will show that. It's doing 175-180m, which is 160-170m of attendance when you take out IMAX. Yes, that's an alarming drop from the previous least attended modern Bond film. Again, especially since Skyfall was supposedly beloved, unlike the likes of a Moonraker. 

[RichWS]

Just now, MovieMan89 said:

It is not hitting 200m. the 60% drop this weekend will show that. It's doing 175-180m, which is 160-170m of attendance when you take out IMAX. Yes, that's an alarming drop from the previous least attended modern Bond film. Again, especially since Skyfall was supposedly beloved, unlike the likes of a Moonraker. 

 

Watch Bond 25 jump up, Bond 26 goes down. Alarming in what way? The series is now dying? The buzz and word-of-mouth wasn't nearly as good. What did you expect? 

[MovieMan89]

2 minutes ago, RichWS said:

 

Watch Bond 25 jump up, Bond 26 goes down. Alarming in what way? The series is now dying? The buzz and word-of-mouth wasn't nearly as good. What did you expect? 

It's alarming because it means if the next one also doesn't deliver, we're looking at possible record lows for the franchise DOM. The next one can't drop from Spectre and pull anything half-ways respectable. Sure it could become just an OS series, but that would be kinda sad. Spectre puts a lot of pressure for them to deliver on the next film for Bond's domestic brand name. Though I do feel all they really have to do is re-cast Bond and pick a good choice and audiences will be interested again. 

[Cmasterclay]

Bond has been "dead" more times than almost any franchise. People said it after the Living Daylights, a View to Kill, and Die Another Day. But nope! Stilll chugging. It's a franchise that can get right back on the horse at any time with a little shakeup and a real good movie. All this doom and gloom that the franchise is "bottoming out" domestically is silly. Bond 25 can market itself around the 25th anniversary, cast a big name as the villain, hire a superstar to make a hit song again, cut some better trailers, and get better reviews and I guarantee it will be back over 200 million again. It's not alarming in the slightest. It's one movie that dropped. In 2012, people were saying that Bond was stronger than ever. It's really just somewhere in the middle- it's a strong franchise that does about 200 mill adjusted give or take the occasional outlier on either side. 

[RichWS]

4 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

It's alarming because it means if the next one also doesn't deliver, we're looking at possible record lows for the franchise DOM. The next one can't drop from Spectre and pull anything half-ways respectable. Sure it could become just an OS series, but that would be kinda sad. Spectre puts a lot of pressure for them to deliver on the next film for Bond's domestic brand name. Though I do feel all they really have to do is re-cast Bond and pick a good choice and audiences will be interested again. 

 

All this one film after the biggest series hit in 30 years. Talk about an overreaction. We need a re-cast! Talk to me when we get to Licence to Kill-type numbers, okay? Bond has always been an big OS series. Considering how much the OS market has picked up this decade, why would it be sad that the OS market would take over? It certainly did for Skyfall.  

 

God, I wonder what people were saying over on BOM after Quantum. Pardon the pun, but the whole "sky is falling" mentality regarding this series is crazy to me. 

[MovieMan89]

9 minutes ago, RichWS said:

 

All this one film after the biggest series hit in 30 years. Talk about an overreaction. We need a re-cast! Talk to me when we get to Licence to Kill-type numbers, okay? Bond has always been an big OS series. Considering how much the OS market has picked up this decade, why would it be sad that the OS market would take over? It certainly did for Skyfall.  

 

God, I wonder what people were saying over on BOM after Quantum. Pardon the pun, but the whole "sky is falling" mentality regarding this series is crazy to me. 

We'll be near License to Kill numbers shortly if they play their cards for the next one the same way they did for this one. That's the point. People don't want to consider how this THREE DECADE low affects the franchise going forward. And that's perfectly fine I guess if they just want to stick all their eggs in the OS basket now and let Bond become Terminator. I for one though think it will be kind of sad if it loses its relevance DOM. 

 

As for Craig, he's old, tired, and downright entitled when it comes to the role at this point. He thinks he's the shit at this point, and as such doesn't think he even has to try anymore. And because he doesn't think he has to try, we get performances that, surprise surprise, have no effort behind them. He needs to go ASAP. A new Bond will always get people talking and re-new interest. Not only that, but because they  have to prove themselves more when they do a re-cast, that first film with a new Bond is usually the best of that actor's Bond filmography. It is definitely time. 

Edited November 12, 2015 by MovieMan89