Joker: Folie à Deux Weekend Thread

[wattage]

3 minutes ago, AMC Theaters Enjoyer said:

 

If this goes any lower than the low end there's a genuine chance it opens below the Wild Robots opening last weekend which would be insane. As much as I really do not like this film I want it to make some money at least and come out on the higher end. Theaters need the cash flow until Venom. Dismal really. 

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[Darth Lehnsherr]

 

 

[TheFlatLannister]

Jesus, is Joker even hitting $200M WW??

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[HummingLemon496]

Just now, wattage said:

If this goes any lower than the low end there's a genuine chance it opens below the Wild Robots opening last weekend which would be insane. As much as I really do not like this film I want it to make some money at least and come out on the higher end. Theaters need the cash flow until Venom. Dismal really. 

If it does barely above Wild Robot I will be so mad

[HummingLemon496]

1 minute ago, TheFlatLannister said:

Jesus, is this even hitting $200M WW??

DOM: $35M --> $62M?

OS: $68M --> $130M?

 

Honestly, I would say there's a better chance at a WW total starting with 1 and with a 2

[wattage]

Just now, Darth Lehnsherr said:

 

 

On the other hand, my beloved Wild Robot is doing well ❤️ unfortunate that it lost PLF and in a just world it would be able to share the screens with Joker next weekend. It was beautiful in Dolby.

[MightyDargon]

1 minute ago, Assassin said:

 

Because, y'know, nobody pays attention to reviews.

[Driver]

3 minutes ago, MightyDargon said:

Wow, ONE movie from a 30 year old series that was literally viewed as the very last of its series (until they immediately announced a sequel afterwards because Hollywood).

There's plenty of cases post COVID where movies that got crummy reviews also crumbled because of inflation. "Critics hate it but I'm still seeing it" was a pre-COVID mindset.

 

Do I need to list every movie that was rotten on RT that became a hit since Covid? "And more," kid. 

[MightyDargon]

2 minutes ago, HummingLemon496 said:

If it does barely above Wild Robot I will be so mad

Why? Wild Robot is absolutely gonna maul it in terms of profitability, which is what Hollywood actually cares about.

[HummingLemon496]

Just now, MightyDargon said:

Why? Wild Robot is absolutely gonna maul it in terms of profitability, which is what Hollywood actually cares about.

I made a club

[MightyDargon]

Just now, Driver said:

 

Do I need to list every movie that was rotten on RT that became a hit since Covid? "And more," kid. 

"Kid"? Are you trying to be a fucking badass right on the week Joker 2 got killed due to shitty reviews? Go home, you're drunk.

[MightyDargon]

Just now, HummingLemon496 said:

I made a club

Oh, that makes sense. Still Wild Robot is absolutely likely to outgross it US  at the current rate. Very, very few people predicted that.

[John Marston]

 

 

Below 40M? So potentially below Morbius’ opening weekend.

[HummingLemon496]

Just now, MightyDargon said:

Oh, that makes sense. Still Wild Robot is absolutely likely to outgross it US  at the current rate. Very, very few people predicted that.

LIKELY? Bro it's 10000000% locked

[Mickiland16]

9 minutes ago, Driver said:

So what's the prevailing theory here with Joker's failure? 

 

The first movie had a 3+ multiplier, indicating word of mouth was pretty good. So I don't buy the notion that this is a response to the first movie. Also, not a reflection of THIS movie's word of mouth cause that doesn't kick in until weekend two, or the first Saturday at the earliest in really extreme cases. Friday is too low to indicate fan-demand-esque frontloading. Audiences aren't typically swayed by bad reviews. So what's going on here? 

It was a combination of a lot of things that could go wrong (and they did). 

 

1. No one asked for it 

2. It's getting an awful reception 

3. The main demo for the first movie isn't into musicals and it wasn't the type of movie for musical lovers. 

4. A product of their time, social context matters for some things. 

5. DC has been damaged as a brand 

6. I know this discourse is exhausting, but the CBMs are just not the hot thing anymore. 

 

 

[MightyDargon]

1 minute ago, HummingLemon496 said:

LIKELY? Bro it's 10000000% locked

I mean, you're extremely likely to be right but I'm only certain once I get a Monday drop figure.

Like I'd give you a 99.9% percent chance.

[Mulder]

We'll see how Venom 3 and Kraven (pft) do I guess but this year has been another disastrous year for CBMs mostly. Only one big successful third film banking on beloved characters (Like GoTG Vol 3 before it last year) and a bunch of bombs, including a sequel to a previous billion dollar maker. The genre is absolutely in trouble and if Venom 3 also falls below Let There Be Carnage's numbers I think it's safe to say it's on the way out. 

[Skim Beeble]

yesss chris sanders get his ass

[HummingLemon496]

1 minute ago, MightyDargon said:

I mean, you're extremely likely to be right but I'm only certain once I get a Monday drop figure.

Like I'd give you a 99.9% percent chance.

No, it's not 99.9% chance.

 

It's not even 99.999% chance.

 

It literally is 100% chance. 

[MightyDargon]

Ah yes I see the "CBMs are doomed" cycle started up AGAIN while Deadpool and Wolverine is literally still in the top 10.

Never change, people.