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[kkccoo]

Can KFP3 do $500M China?

No. Animation movies are still treated as kids movies in China. It will do well but not in that level.

[MrFanaticGuy34]

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Edited May 28, 2015 by MrFanaticGuy34

[MrFanaticGuy34]

Here's a thing I don't get about animated blockbusters compared to live-action blockbusters. The former mostly seem to open lower than the latter.

I mean, last year...we had X-Men: DOFP, Godzilla, TF4, TASM2, CA:WS & GOTG. They all opened between $90-$100M. For HTTYD2?.....Nowhere close along with them. I mean..Dragon 2 only opened at $49M. Pretty underwhelming.

Just because some successful films are animated, doesn't always mean the former have to obligationally open lower than live-action ones. It's not fair!

At least "The Simpsons Movie" opened at $74M. Which is the sixth biggest animated OW.

And the only ones that open higher than that is MU, DM2, Shrek 2, Toy Story 3 and Shrek 3.

Every time it's always live-action, live action, live action.

I don't get it at all, tbh.

Edited May 28, 2015 by MrFanaticGuy34

[tupek]

Yeah...but the thing is Toy Story 3 had arguably more competition though. It went up against Shrek 4, Twilight: Eclipse, DM1, Inception. All of them making money in the same summer.

The only big competitor Shrek 2 had, was The Day After Tomorrow. And Shrek 2 had better legs.

Shrek 2 was released in a era where there was not a parade of animated movies just like today. They were eventful movies.

And honestly, I think you're going too far with the competition thing. There are movies called "direct competition", which for Toy Story 3 were only Shrek 4 and DM. Eclipse? That was a one-day flower, and hold well against Inception. Why? Because they are NOT direct competition.

[Infernus]

No. Animation movies are still treated as kids movies in China. It will do well but not in that level.

It can do that well and infact 400m is assured. The 93m KFP2 made in 2011 is already equal to greater than 300m when factoring in the average yearly increase in the market.

[Jandrew]

Animated movies cater mostly to families, which have more staying power. Families don't rush out to the theater, especially in the summer. Something like Inside Out and Minions, kids will be seeing all summer long, even though theres a built in Pixar and Minions fan base. Same with the holidays. Big Hero 6 opened to $56M and still beat most of those movies. 

 

Xmen, Godzilla, Spiderman, Marvel, etc cater more to adults, have fanboy fanbases that cant wait more than 2 days, hence the worse legs and bigger openings. They don't get as casual of views. It's a paradox, the kids can wait, but the adults cant, even though in the real world, that's usually the opposite. That's just how box office works and why animated movies have better drops, longer legs, and lasting life in the theaters. Nothing to get upset about.

Edited May 28, 2015 by Jandrew

[MrFanaticGuy34]

Shrek 2 was released in a era where there was not a parade of animated movies just like today. They were eventful movies.

And honestly, I think you're going too far with the competition thing. There are movies called "direct competition", which for Toy Story 3 were only Shrek 4 and DM. Eclipse? That was a one-day flower, and hold well against Inception. Why? Because they are NOT direct competition.

Hey...I'm just stating the statistics..

And yeah, Twilight: Eclipse and Inception weren't DIRECT competition, I'll give you that. But still..even if they weren't..they still have to take a bit of audience here and there. That's how it goes. If a movie breaks out, that's the one going strong in the long run.

[DAJK]

Animated movies cater mostly to families, which have more staying power. Families don't rush out to the theater, especially in the summer. Something like Inside Out and Minions, kids will be seeing all summer long, even though theres a built in Pixar and Minions fan base. Same with the holidays. Big Hero 6 opened to $56M and still beat most of those movies.

Xmen, Godzilla, Spiderman, Marvel, etc cater more to adults, have fanboy fanbases that cant wait more than 2 days, hence the worse legs and bigger openings. They don't get as casual of views. It's a paradox, the kids can wait, but the adults cant, even though in the real world, that's usually the opposite. That's just how box office works and why animated movies have better drops, longer legs, and lasting life in the theaters. Nothing to get upset about.

What he said

[MrFanaticGuy34]

Animated movies cater mostly to families, which have more staying power. Families don't rush out to the theater, especially in the summer. Something like Inside Out and Minions, kids will be seeing all summer long, even though theres a built in Pixar and Minions fan base. Same with the holidays. Big Hero 6 opened to $56M and still beat most of those movies.

Xmen, Godzilla, Spiderman, Marvel, etc cater more to adults, have fanboy fanbases that cant wait more than 2 days, hence the worse legs and bigger openings. They don't get as casual of views. It's a paradox, the kids can wait, but the adults cant, even though in the real world, that's usually the opposite. That's just how box office works and why animated movies have better drops, longer legs, and lasting life in the theaters. Nothing to get upset about.

1. Understandably so. I mean..If it's a first starter, like Big Hero 6 for example. An animated film may not open huge, but it's gonna stay in theaters longer and hold on longer. And that's the keyword: Some animated blockbusters has better legs than live-action ones. But then there are anomalies like Shrek 2, Shrek 3 and Toy Story 3 that all opened between $108-$121M. Now that's rare.

2. True, the live-action blockbusters like the ones I mentioned from last year, do open much bigger, since they're more fan-driven. Which isn't a bad thing, I mean..the fan-bases knows their fans. And their legs tends to be smaller than animated ones.

Not upset about it at all. After all, animated films makes huge money nonetheless. It's just that I would love to see more phenomenal openers.

And I think KFP3 has a strong chance of opening higher than KFP2 and open at first place. Since it has nothing huge standing against it until March when BvS comes in.

[tupek]

It can do that well and infact 400m is assured. The 93m KFP2 made in 2011 is already equal to greater than 300m when factoring in the average yearly increase in the market.

Yeah and AoU was assured to make $1,5b WW

[MrFanaticGuy34]

Yeah and AoU was assured to make $1,5b WW

Everyone thought that. Everyone.

But again..the novelty from TA1, was not there in AOU. And it had less stellar reception.

[Ethan Hunt]

That's factually untrue. In every way imaginable.

Toy Story had 3 movies, one of which made a billion at the box office and was nominated for best picture. Nemo had one movie a decade ago.

That says nothing about the popularity of the two brands. Finding Nemo hasn't had a sequel so you can't use the Toy Story sequels as a way of comparing the two. Yes Toy Story is an incredibly popular brand, but Nemo is still even bigger and more popular. No I can't use its sequels numbers to back that up because the sequel hasn't been released yet.

[Black Hawk]

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[Avatree]

Shrek 2 was released in a era where there was not a parade of animated movies just like today. They were eventful movies.

What are you talking about?

 

In 2004 there was Shrek 2, The Incredibles, The Spongebob Movie, The Polar Express & Shark Tale, not to mention several live-action adaptations of children's cartoons (Scooby-Doo 2 & Garfield: The Movie).

 

The reason Shrek 2 was huge was not because animated movies weren't as common. It was because it came off an exceptionally well-received movie that performed outstandingly at the box office - and it delivered everything that Shrek's audience wanted. Shrek 1 was a major game-changer for animated films. It flipped the traditional formula on its head, turning a Disney princess - type movie into a comedy, and it worked. It added a ton of adult references and humour (much rarer for "kids" films at the time compared to now), making it appealing to adults as well as kids. It advanced CG animation to a level never seen before. Its trio of leads were memorable and lovable. It was effective in so many ways, and was loved by everyone who watched it. So a good sequel was bound to make heaps and heaps of money, and that's exactly what Shrek 2 was - a good sequel which delivered on the promises.

[grim22]

Hello China: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-china-dreamworks-20150609-story.html#page=1

 

The creation of Oriental DreamWorks has already resulted in preferential treatment for "Kung Fu Panda 3" in China. The movie's recent designation as co-production will allow the company to receive a larger share of revenue than foreign studios typically receive when their films are allowed into China under its quota system.
 

And the movie has secured a choice release date over the Chinese New Year holiday, a period typically reserved for domestic productions.
 

The movie is breaking new ground by having two versions, in which characters are animated so that their speech is in sync with both English and Mandarin. To create the Mandarin-language version will take about 25% more time and effort, adding to the budget of the film that's estimated near $140 million.

"The first few projects that we do are going to take longer and they're going to be potentially more expensive than what we would normally be planning to do," said Prashant Buyyala, head of Oriental DreamWorks' animation studio. "But that's all part of the process of building a world-class animation studio."

 

[Avatree]

I have no interest in this movie nor am I Chinese, but that's great news!

[AniNate]

Cool news, though I wonder if it's going to fundamentally alter the narrative of the two films. I'm sure everyone's going to be wanting to compare them.

[filmlover]

What are you talking about?

 

In 2004 there was Shrek 2, The Incredibles, The Spongebob Movie, The Polar Express & Shark Tale, not to mention several live-action adaptations of children's cartoons (Scooby-Doo 2 & Garfield: The Movie).

 

The reason Shrek 2 was huge was not because animated movies weren't as common. It was because it came off an exceptionally well-received movie that performed outstandingly at the box office - and it delivered everything that Shrek's audience wanted. Shrek 1 was a major game-changer for animated films. It flipped the traditional formula on its head, turning a Disney princess - type movie into a comedy, and it worked. It added a ton of adult references and humour (much rarer for "kids" films at the time compared to now), making it appealing to adults as well as kids. It advanced CG animation to a level never seen before. Its trio of leads were memorable and lovable. It was effective in so many ways, and was loved by everyone who watched it. So a good sequel was bound to make heaps and heaps of money, and that's exactly what Shrek 2 was - a good sequel which delivered on the promises.

I think what he's saying is that Shrek 2 was released in a time when CGI animated movies weren't saturating the market, which allowed the individual product to be much more distinctive (which they were: Shrek 2 was a sequel to an enormously popular movie, Shark Tale was an original title with a very star-studded voice cast, The Incredibles was the latest from Disney/Pixar, and The Polar Express was based on a popular Christmas book that had a huge-name star/director combo behind it).

[MrFanaticGuy34]

Hello China: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-china-dreamworks-20150609-story.html#page=1

 

This is very interesting.

[Asyulus]

So KFP3 will gross over $500M in China?