ThePhasmid Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eric the Hedgehog said: @lorddemaxus @dudalb That's enough talking about the military in a thread about a movie featuring a blue cartoon hedgehog for one day. I agree. Back on topic, how much of this film's success is dependent upon the shoulders of Jim Carrey returning to his roots? Is this film performing better than expected with critics solely based upon Carrey's performance or its central character being given proper cinematic treatment? It appears both fans of classic Jim Carrey and old school Sonic are equally enjoying the film. I can see how Paramount had trouble with initial marketing. People want to see a memorable over the top Jim Carrey performance, but they also want people to know this is all about Sonic. Edited February 14, 2020 by ThePhasmid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass2 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 This is a triumph. Everything is going right for this movie. As predicted. 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepper83 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 This was actually a really cute movie ❤️ I'm glad it's doing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morieris Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I have to admit, as a long fan of Sonic, I thought, more than once "This is way too serious to be the plot of a damn Sonic movie.", and I didn't hate it....mainly bc of Carrey and Robotnik. Spoiler and the stinger. I've never played 06 so I wonder if this plot is more or less serious than that one...probably less. Hell, at least Sonic was still cocky and fun and not neurotic and lonely. If I wanted that, I'd look in the mirror. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertman2 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, Morieris said: I have to admit, as a long fan of Sonic, I thought, more than once "This is way too serious to be the plot of a damn Sonic movie.", and I didn't hate it....mainly bc of Carrey and Robotnik. Reveal hidden contents and the stinger. I've never played 06 so I wonder if this plot is more or less serious than that one...probably less. Hell, at least Sonic was still cocky and fun and not neurotic and lonely. If I wanted that, I'd look in the mirror. It really wasn't that much more serious than Adventure or Adventure 2 tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ithil Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 10:47 PM, DAJK said: He's saying most people. And yea, I totally agree. I never played any of the games, but I did watch the show when I was a kid. The show was definitely more popular than the games anyways. Anyways, to contribute to the convo going on above, I don't think this is going to be any real "franchise-starter" other than maybe one sequel in a few years that'll do around half of what this one does. Part of the interest in this stems from a) the novelty of seeing the character on the big screen b) I really do think that the fact that the original design was so bad and they went and changed it built a lot more good will with audiences than if the design was this way from the beginning c) a huge star from the 90s who's mostly faded today coming back to play a (relatively) iconic character The newest game titles just sold nearly 20 million copies in two months. They are far more popular than the anime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhasmid Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 This film continues to defy odds. I don't know if it's a bigger win for Paramount or Carrey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OncomingStorm93 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, ThePhasmid said: This film continues to defy odds. I don't know if it's a bigger win for Paramount or Carrey. It's bigger for Jim Carrey. It's big for both, but this is Jim's biggest OW since Bruce Almighty. His genius is being introduced to a whole new young generation. 18 hours ago, ThePhasmid said: I agree. Back on topic, how much of this film's success is dependent upon the shoulders of Jim Carrey returning to his roots? Is this film performing better than expected with critics solely based upon Carrey's performance or its central character being given proper cinematic treatment? It appears both fans of classic Jim Carrey and old school Sonic are equally enjoying the film. I can see how Paramount had trouble with initial marketing. People want to see a memorable over the top Jim Carrey performance, but they also want people to know this is all about Sonic. I don't see any critics praising Jean Ralphio's vocal performance, or James Marsden. As far back as the disastrous first trailer, what with the CGI monstrosity and Gangsta's Paradise, Jim Carrey still received a very positive reaction. The initial marketing trouble had nothing to do with Carrey. I'm not saying that Jim is carrying this property, but he is elevating it. Carrey has always been able to pull off the balance of bonkers crazy but still endearing. Who else could have pulled off Robotnik? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAJK Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 45 minutes ago, ThePhasmid said: This film continues to defy odds. I don't know if it's a bigger win for Paramount or Carrey. Honestly I hope Carrey starts doing more work after this. I miss 90s Carrey. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OncomingStorm93 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 minute ago, DAJK said: Honestly I hope Carrey starts doing more work after this. I miss 90s Carrey. 90s Carrey is what this fractured country needs right now to heal. 90s Carrey will also stop the Coronavirus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WittyUsername Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I guess we have a new movie franchise on our hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorddemaxus Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, WittyUsername said: I guess we have a new movie franchise on our hands. I would wait until the sequel before we talk about new franchises. It's really easy for family film sequels (not from Disney) to drop big these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAJK Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, WittyUsername said: I guess we have a new movie franchise on our hands. I wouldn't go there yet. This may get 1 sequel in a few years, but it's going to take more than an overperformance like this to really spawn a "franchise". If I'm being honest, the last major franchise "creation" I can think of is Jumanji. We'll see if A Quiet Place 2 can do something like 200+ next month, I could see it becoming "franchise" level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMP Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Biggest franchises in Hollywood will all be 90's nostalgia now that superhero fatigue's struck. Jumanji. Sonic. Hope for Space Jam 2? Maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorddemaxus Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, DAJK said: If I'm being honest, the last major franchise "creation" I can think of is Jumanji. Are they going to keep making films after the third one? I feel like after the third one (which, based on the post credit scene in the 2nd movie, is exactly what I thought it was going to be), there's really not much else to do with the concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorddemaxus Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TMP said: Biggest franchises in Hollywood will all be 90's nostalgia now that superhero fatigue's struck. Jumanji. Sonic. Hope for Space Jam 2? Maybe... But Mulan is gonna flop Edited February 15, 2020 by lorddemaxus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMP Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said: But Mulan is gonna flop Because it didn't adhere to the nostalgia!! Sonic would have bombed too if they didn't change the design 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aladdino Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 'superhero fatigue' yeah aquaman, joker, captain marvel, endgame... such flops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric the Clown Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 We’ll get one more movie, it’ll fall like Ninja Turtles, and that’s the last we’ll see of this before the inevitable reboot 15 years later. Pretty much all the hype for this was because of the redesign controversy, which won’t be a factor in the sequel 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAJK Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 46 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said: Are they going to keep making films after the third one? I feel like after the third one (which, based on the post credit scene in the 2nd movie, is exactly what I thought it was going to be), there's really not much else to do with the concept. Still, you're going to get a trilogy that grossed anywhere from 2.5B-3B worldwide. I'd say that's a legit "franchise" at that point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...