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Ok, I take it back, that's actually a pretty big drop for IS.  Bigger than I thought it would be.  That's close to a 50% drop after it only went up by 30%.  No spin, that's not all that great.

We've only got dailies for two other times the 12th was a Wednesday, 03 and 08. Looking at those, IS's drop is right about where you'd expect.

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We've only got dailies for two other times the 12th was a Wednesday, 03 and 08. Looking at those, IS's drop is right about where you'd expect.

 

Based on what other film?  I used Changeling.  That fell 45%.  Imax should have mitigated the drop, not only did it not mitigate it, but the drop was harder than any comparable film from 2008.

 

Then again, if you are using Matrix Revolutions as an example, that doesn't bode well for IS as MR was pretty much hated.

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Based on what other film?  I used Changeling.  That fell 45%.  Imax should have mitigated the drop, not only did it not mitigate it, but the drop was harder than any comparable film from 2008.

Based in general at what look like older skewing films. Lots of numbers coming. It just looks right inline, perfectly average and unexceptional.

2003 Tues:

1 2 Elf NL $5,681,000 +51% - 3,337 $1,702 $40,546,501 5
2 1 The Matrix Revolutions WB $5,200,298 +13% - 3,502 $1,485 $93,577,712 7
3 3 Brother Bear BV $3,811,836 +126% +136% 3,030 $1,258 $49,524,790 19
4 4 Scary Movie 3 Dim. $1,375,000 +37% +0% 3,288 $418 $95,433,613 19
5 5 Love Actually Uni. $1,097,280 +33% - 576 $1,905 $8,807,135 5
6 6 Radio SonR $1,054,789 +42% +48% 2,811 $375 $37,924,925 19
7 8 Mystic River WB $678,206 +42% +19% 1,581 $429 $41,593,243 35
8 9 Runaway Jury Fox $625,565 +42% +12% 2,133 $293 $41,063,494 26
9 7 The Texas Chainsaw Massacre NL $562,000 +2% -15% 2,378 $236 $74,472,552 26
10 10 School of Rock Par. $532,890 +69% +42% 1,982 $269 $74,320,832 40

 

2003 Wed:

1 2 The Matrix Revolutions WB $2,223,433 -57% -91% 3,502 $635 $95,801,145 8
2 1 Elf NL $1,678,000 -71% - 3,337 $503 $42,224,501 6
3 3 Brother Bear BV $690,555 -82% -40% 3,030 $228 $50,215,345 20
4 5 Love Actually Uni. $662,455 -40% - 576 $1,150 $9,469,590 6
5 4 Scary Movie 3 Dim. $396,000 -71% -56% 3,288 $120 $95,829,613 20
6 7 Mystic River WB $381,095 -44% -26% 1,581 $241 $41,974,338 36
7 6 Radio SonR $377,682 -64% -33% 2,811 $134 $38,302,607 20
8 8 Runaway Jury Fox $345,619 -45% -28% 2,133 $162 $41,409,113 27
9 9 The Texas Chainsaw Massacre NL $276,000 -51% -43% 2,378 $116 $74,748,552 27
10 11 Kill Bill Vol. 1 Mira. $233,000 -44% -33% 1,681 $139 $65,751,396 34

2008 Tues:

1 1 Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa P/DW $9,780,159 +90% - 4,056 $2,411 $78,033,720 5
2 2 Role Models Uni. $2,513,750 +15% - 2,792 $900 $23,872,555 5
3 3 High School Musical 3: Senior Year BV $1,600,947 +89% -16% 3,464 $462 $78,021,701 19
4 5 Changeling Uni. $1,028,650 +42% +20% 1,855 $555 $22,311,042 19
5 4 Zack and Miri Make a Porno Wein. $892,917 +15% -16% 2,735 $326 $22,354,937 12
6 6 Soul Men MGM/W $601,171 +27% - 2,044 $294 $6,476,487 5
7 11 Beverly Hills Chihuahua BV $563,400 +116% -13% 2,359 $239 $89,083,145 40
8 8 The Secret Life of Bees FoxS $538,293 +61% +30% 1,481 $363 $30,775,095 26
9 7 Saw V LGF $469,907 +7% -34% 2,829 $166 $53,095,741 19
10 10 Eagle Eye P/DW $373,792 +30% +9% 1,407 $266 $97,009,472 47

2008 Wed:

1 1 Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa P/DW $1,912,967 -80% - 4,056 $472 $79,946,687 6
2 2 Role Models Uni. $1,282,955 -49% - 2,792 $460 $25,155,510 6
3 4 Changeling Uni. $557,425 -46% -32% 1,855 $300 $22,868,467 20
4 5 Zack and Miri Make a Porno Wein. $500,928 -44% -53% 2,735 $183 $22,855,865 13
5 6 Soul Men MGM/W $278,248 -54% - 2,044 $136 $6,754,735 6
6 9 Saw V LGF $260,995 -45% -55% 2,829 $92 $53,356,736 20
7 8 The Secret Life of Bees FoxS $253,025 -53% -29% 1,481 $171 $31,028,120 27
8 3 High School Musical 3: Senior Year BV $236,856 -85% -59% 3,464 $68 $78,258,557 20
9 11 The Haunting of Molly Hartley Free $146,141 -58% -41% 2,576 $57 $10,887,937 13
10 10 Eagle Eye P/DW $132,564 -65% -48% 1,407 $94 $97,142,036 48

 

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But MR has two huge pre-Friday days that IS needs to make up.

Yeah, but their weekends were basically the same, and then IS started holding a lot better.

Mon -57.3% vs -63.1%

Tue +30.8% vs +13.4%

Wed -50%~ vs -57.2%

It'll become a lot clear on Friday obviously.

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There was a time when a  lot of multiplexes in the US that Mon-Thu they didn't have shows before 3-5p then Fri-Sun open all day, daytimes in particlular weekdays are very quiet  can often have 0 attendence or just couple people. These days they tend to just run sessions all day to give people the option of coming to see even if it may not be financially viable (bit more financially viable with digital as there isn't ,in most cases the additional overhead of paying for projectionists). The Imax screens especially ones can run 15/70 would have projectionists on duty

 

Hmm thanks for the background information, so it seems like my hypothesis was on the right track, in terms of what they did when Titanic was released, which was similar to what they're doing for IS on IMAX. What's interesting is I noticed that even some of the digital IMAX screens are doing this weekday to weekend little roller-coaster, decreasing showtimes now on the weekdays, and increasing the showtimes for IS on the weekend.

 

 

Ok, I take it back, that's actually a pretty big drop for IS.  Bigger than I thought it would be.  That's close to a 50% drop after it only went up by 30%.  No spin, that's not all that great.

 

Except the number of IMAX showtimes have been reduced on weekdays in many IMAX theaters, due to the film's runtime, which I think logically explains the drop. That reduces the positive effect IMAX would have had, since due to the runtime and due to the reduction in the amount of showings, most people in reality can only make one showing a day on weekdays. The number of IMAX showtimes going back up for the weekend should boost the weekend hold.

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I am repeating this - any thoughts?

 

so on Friday and Monday those 2 movies were about equal (mixed days)

on Saturday and Sunday BH6 was about one third bigger than IS (free days)

on Tuesday (NA Vet's day) BH6 was two thirds bigger than IS

and Wednesday (normal workday) IS is two thirds bigger than BH6

Isn't that weird?

 

Of course you expect adult and kids oriented movies to perform differently. But so much?

 

Last time that happened 22JS><HttyD2 they were within a few percent of each other day by day (except the first Fridays where Jumpstreet got a little advantage over Dragon)

 

HO2><KFP2: on Saturdays and Sunday about equal, but Mo-Fr Hangover was about twice Panda and that regularly

 

Prometheus><Madagascar: Prometheus very marginally won first Fr,Mo,Tu,We and Th; Madagascar somewhat clearer won first Sa and Su; statrting with second Fr Madagascar pulled away decisevly

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I am repeating this - any thoughts?

so on Friday and Monday those 2 movies were about equal (mixed days)

on Saturday and Sunday BH6 was about one third bigger than IS (free days)

on Tuesday (NA Vet's day) BH6 was two thirds bigger than IS

and Wednesday (normal workday) IS is two thirds bigger than BH6

Isn't that weird?

Of course you expect adult and kids oriented movies to perform differently. But so much?

Last time that happened 22JS><HttyD2 they were within a few percent of each other day by day (except the first Fridays where Jumpstreet got a little advantage over Dragon)

HO2><KFP2: on Saturdays and Sunday about equal, but Mo-Fr Hangover was about twice Panda and that regularly

Prometheus><Madagascar: Prometheus very marginally won first Fr,Mo,Tu,We and Th; Madagascar somewhat clearer won first Sa and Su; statrting with second Fr Madagascar pulled away decisevly

Can't compare summer weekdays with winter the difference between kids films and the rest is noticeably different due to school

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